[uucdigest] Friday, February 25 2000 Volume 03 : Number 334 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] My 318i is totalled [uuc] UUC Swaybars. Fatigue. [uuc] PURCHASING EUROPEAN PARTS... Re: [uuc] A follow up message to Mr. Donn York [uuc] How do you know Runflats are Flat? Answer. Re: [uuc] No Spare Tire (was M5 Main. Schedule) RE: [uuc] My 318i is totalled [uuc] [e30] heater problems [uuc] VaNoS Re: [uuc] Timing Belts/Chains 328is Re: [uuc] Just got UUC swaybars [uuc] UUC Sway Bars Feed back [uuc] <e36> ES Tuning Review (318i) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:36:33 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] My 318i is totalled > Yea, look at the picture of the trunk. Notice the spare > wheel is wedged in the > tub. The other car went under my rear bumper and hit the > spare tire tub > underneath. The other car's headlights hit the bumper, > bending it down. Also > notice the passenger side rear frame rail in the trunk is bent. > > -John I see a red 911 w/whaletail in the garage. Is that a Carrera? Sorry to see the wreck John. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ex 82 911SC Targa (red w/whaletail) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:42:15 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] UUC Swaybars. Fatigue. The way I understand it there is no metal that does not fatigue at some level. There are some, like aluminum, that fatigue at all levels. Hence, the saying that Al does not have a real fatigue strength or whatever. So, no matter how low the loading Al will fail in fatigue eventually. To prevent failure in fatigue it is necessary to keep the cyclical loading below a certain level. Then the component can last infinitely in fatigue. Mild steel, I believe, is like that. Provided you keep the load low enough it will NEVER fail in fatigue. So, to make mild steel bar as fatigue proof as 4130 (whatever that is!) you would need to make it much bigger or something, but that might change its torsional characteristics. Finally, agreeing (I think) with Rob, I would think it was possible to make a mild steel bar that would not fatigue, but perhaps not for the UUC bar rate. I get the sneaky feeling there is a loophole in that last paragraph! Anyone? Gary Derian? Gustave Stroes? Andy T? Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC *** Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:26 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Just got UUC swaybars 4130 is a spring steel, designed to flex and, of course, "spring" back. The primary advantage of this material is that it does not fatigue over time like mild steel. Many aftermarket suspension parts that are made from mild steel stop feeling fresh after 1-2 years... springs sag and sway bars lose their effectiveness. Some of the really "high end" tuners (like Stillen with their monster twin-turbo 300ZXs) insist on 4130, but the UUC SwayBarbarian is the only BMW application of this material. Personally, I have had some "big name" suspensions in mild steel suffer from the weakening and fatiguing. It creeps up on you as it is a gradual process, but even switching to a brand-new example of the same part shows the difference. The UUC parts are free of this long-term effect. - - - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks * www.uucmotorwerks.com * 732-398-0001 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:39:47 -0500 From: "Phemister, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] PURCHASING EUROPEAN PARTS... <<<<<<<,@ Subject: [uuc] PURCHASING EUROPEAN PARTS... I'm wondering if someone had a contact for BMW parts (OEM and aftermarket performance parts) in either the UK or Germany...Or, any country in Europe or Canada, for that matter, where the exchange rate is in our favor? Chris Marino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 95 M3 Germany is cheaper than UK. Check UK magazine called :BMW for lots of adverts. The main dealer in Munich used to do mail order. Depending on what you want, most stuff is cheaper in US from Roundel ads. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:07:17 -0600 From: Donn York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] A follow up message to Mr. Donn York Chris: I am sorry if I offended you by describing your ad, albeit without naming names. I obviously mistook your situation, basing my email to this list on your ad, rather than your true situation or inner feelings. My post was meant to be humorous and harmless, and not to put your unhappy situation in a public light. I must say that I don't quite understand your question about my occupation, but you have equally misinterpreted my situation, as I have yours. My company was taken over last year by a British firm and my job as Treasurer was eliminated as we were folded into the acquiring company's operations. I have been either unemployed or retired, depending on how you look at it, for the last eleven months. My wife, who left her Corporate America job voluntarily last May, and I have been enjoying our sabbatical from the Real World immensely and may choose to never return. <<I have received a significant amount of email traffic regarding my response to Mr. Donn York's email. Reviewing and analyzing the consensus, prompts me to request Mr. York to respond. Should there be a slim chance, that your job description at work, requires you to perform with a high level of insight and accuracy? If it does, would you please respond and identify your company, it's products and or services in the market place for us.>> Donn York PS - I don't think my former company's products would allow you to better manage your life, unless you need storage rack, powdered metal, or aerospace components. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:50:29 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] How do you know Runflats are Flat? Answer. >From what I've heard, you spend the $200-300 to get one of those pressure monitor >things that go into each tire and give you the pressure and temperature. They are battery powered units that are strapped to the hub (not the tire tread on the inside) and hence add less to the rotational inertia and transmit to a display on the dash via radio frequency. There are alarms at preset pressures and, I think, temperatures. C&D tested these and found them accurate and last about 3 years on batteries. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:03:14 +0100 From: mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] No Spare Tire (was M5 Main. Schedule) a fellow digestre wrote: >I was under the impression, that like the Corvette, The M5 and M Z3 >came >with Run Flat tires. Is this incorrect? another on wrote: >If they ride OK when flat, how are you going to >know that they are flat? >I think that you have to make too many compromises in a tire already >and >you don't need another one that really doesn't add anything. Run flat tires are used in the Z8, because there's just not enough room for a spare wheel. The run flat tire's supposed to run 300 miles and is monitored by a pressure sensor system to tell the driver to get to the next stealer and change the tire. Don't know if the M5 has also run flat tires, but I think it has the pressure monitoring system. Mill 1993 M3 coupe (yes, it's an euro) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:53:31 -0800 From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] My 318i is totalled '87 930, as luck would have it I usually drive my 930 on Fridays but with heavy rains that day I took my 318. Read-ending my 53,000 mile stock 930 would have hurt, with the 318, it is only inconvenient. - -John 84 318i -> maybe a 87 325is (replacement) - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cagann, Alexander Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 11:37 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [uuc] My 318i is totalled > Yea, look at the picture of the trunk. Notice the spare > wheel is wedged in the > tub. The other car went under my rear bumper and hit the > spare tire tub > underneath. The other car's headlights hit the bumper, > bending it down. Also > notice the passenger side rear frame rail in the trunk is bent. > > -John I see a red 911 w/whaletail in the garage. Is that a Carrera? Sorry to see the wreck John. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ex 82 911SC Targa (red w/whaletail) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:08:30 PST From: "Tony Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [e30] heater problems Hi guys. I recently changed my heater valve after lacking heat in my 85 318i for 6 mos (you can get away with that in LA). Now I've found some curious things: 1. The heater blows but only sends heat when the car is idling. When the car stays at about over 2000 rpm, the heat dies and finally blows completely cold 2. When I step on the gas, there is a thumping noise coming from what I think resides around the evap core area. The thumping speeds up as the rpms go from 1000 to 2000 and then cut out above 2000 rpm. I'm thinking that the 2 problems are related but I can't isolate the area of the problem. I'm wondering if it's a problem with the tiny retrofitted thermostat that comes before the heater inlet on the engine side of the firewall (installed as part of the early 318i recalls regarding problems with coolant expansion) Does anyone have any advice on this? Your help would be greatly appreciated. I'm hesistant to put back the pieces to the center console until I know that I don't have to dig around the heater core area again. Tony ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:09:41 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] VaNoS To add to Carlos's e-mail. I think they now capitalize all letters, but as far as I know the Germans would go with the capitalization as in the subject of this mail. Something to do with capitalizing first syllables and not first letters of the words in acronyms. VaNoS is both stepped (as Carlos mentions) and stepless. So, the new ones vary continuously and not just at 1500 and 5000 RPM. I believe the retard after 5000 RPM is because it is very difficult to detect engine knock at that speed (too much background vibration raising the noise floor for the detection accelerometers on the block) and most ECUs adopt a very conservative setting instead of operating the engine on the threshold of knock where it makes max. power without knocking. But I may be wrong about that. VaNoS also betters emissions since it helps burn the fuel better. Less compromise timing since you can tailor it to each speed makes for better burn instead of optimizing it for one speed and being off-optimum at others. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC *** Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:11:29 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] VANOS >Stupid question here... I understand that the VANOS is connected to emissions... >but that is about it... what does the anancronym stand for? A quick web search turned up: Variable Nockenwellensteuerung. If I understand it correctly it's a hydraulic mechanism controlled by the DME. It advances the timing 12.5 degrees somewhere around 1500rpm and retards the timing again at about 5000rpm, I didn't know it was emissions related but I don't know crap about engines. I thought it was to maximize torque. Carlos 91 M3 no vanos here x95 M3 rattling vanos here ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:11:19 -0600 From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Timing Belts/Chains 328is Yes, I suppose I was. I guess I had in mind my 94 318i. I know it had a belt I do believe. I hate to say, never heard of a M52Tu..thanks for all this information. I know nothing but to enjoy the cars, and love umm. This is my 3rd BMW. My first was a 88 325, then I stepped down a bit to a 94 318i, and got back up again to the 328is. Hope I can stay up lol. However, I hope to keep this car for a very long time. I dearly love it. Thanks for your response. Celisa 99 328is > Your M52Tu motor has a timing chain, much like most modern BMWs. You're > probably thinking of the M20 (small six) motor that uses a timing belt... > > How do you like it so far? > > Phil > > ---------- > From: Celisa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:54 AM > To: BMW > Subject: [uuc] Timing Belts/Chains 328is > > Could somone tell me please whether or not there is a timing belt or > a chain > for the 99 328is? I do know that some cars have one or the other, I > was just > curious, and really just need to plain know. Thanks for any > responses > possible. > > > > > Best Regards, > Celisa > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:15:41 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Just got UUC swaybars Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > 4130 is a spring steel, designed to flex and, of course, "spring" back. The > primary advantage of this material is that it does not fatigue over time > like mild steel. Many aftermarket suspension parts that are made from mild > steel stop feeling fresh after 1-2 years... springs sag and sway bars lose > their effectiveness. I understand how a coil spring (effectively a torsion spring seeing load in only one direction) of poor material and/or insufficient design for the application could lose free length (or length @ some load, if you prefer) as the metal fatigues and possibly deforms plastically, but I do not understand how the sway bars (straight(ish) torsion spring seeing more or less equal load reversals (unless you're an oval track racer ;)) could lose effectiveness unless they're breaking, or at least losing cross sectional area through some sort of plastic deformation due to excessive twisting. What am I missing? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:05:59 -0600 From: "Christopher J. Kolaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] UUC Sway Bars Feed back Hey Gilbert, What are the settings you set up the sway bars on? Did you experiment with several different settings? If you did what car dynamics and handling did you experience? TIA, Chris, Windy City Club Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:20:02 PST From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Just got UUC swaybars Just got UUC swaybars for my E46 328i. After driving with them, the car corners much flatter. It feels much tighter than stock. Handling is more neutral. In most of my favorite highway ramps, I am able to corner a higher speed and without alot of the understeer that was present before the upgrade. (For those of you in the NYC area, the 87N to ParkwaySouth exit was faster (more fun) than ever.) This is one fantastic upgrade. The bars are 4130 chrome moly(other bars are mild steel) and come with this very trick zinc coating (silver in color) and will never chip. They came with red polyurethane bushings and adjustable links. The excitement of having this upgrade is like having a new car again. I can't wait to get back into it to drive it. UUC will be taking orders for the bars for $435. Gilbert Hoffman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:09:38 -1200 From: Matthew J Stellas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <e36> ES Tuning Review (318i) Well after about eight long months I finally have the exhaust on my car. This is the second prototype for the e36 318i. The first prototype was way off in fitament and alignment (I expected this). I had the newer system installed yesterday. I retained my stock exhaust just in case I hated the ES system. After driving the car around for a half hour I was ready to put the stock system back on. I thought that it sounded terrible. I felt like I was driving around in a coffee canned (I don't want the P.C. police on me) Honda Civic. As hard as I tried, I could not keep the car quiet. Right before I was about to have the stock system reinstalled I asked a friend to drive the car by so I could hear it from the outside. Oh my gawd! The car did not sound like my humble little 318i any longer. It sounded mean. It is hard for me to describe the sound so bare with me... The car roared. I'll just say that the car sounded like it had a hell of a lot more than a M42 under the hood. I am no DME whiz so take what I am about to say with a really big grain of salt (really big...). I think that the DME software optimized for the new system. Because whilst driving the car today I can say that it pulled harder in higher RPMs. For what it's worth the car is chipped, and K&Ned as well. The exhaust note is also much quieter than it was yesterday, of course, this could be attributed to hearing loss. From the outside the car still remains somewhat quiet, but obviously not stock, until you get on the gas. I no longer have to crawl around my neighborhood pulling 1K RPM, which is quite challenging with a M42. I am curios as to why the exhaust quieted down so much after a day, does anyone know? The whole prototype process was quite a pain in the ass, but I'd do it again in a heart beat. If you have any questions feel free to drop me a line. Unfortunately I do not know when the exhaust will be available for sale or the pricing. I do know that there is also a system for the 318is that should be released soon. I'll update you guys after I talk to ES/Zen Motorsports. Regards, Matthew 1995 318i ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #334 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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