[uucdigest] Monday, February 14 2000 Volume 03 : Number 258 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Dent Wizard Party Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? Re: [uuc] <ALL>broken bolt - need advice Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? [uuc] Active noise cancellation mufflers [uuc] Re: Ferrari noises in a BMW RE: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? Re: [uuc] <E36> Need help - front suspension [uuc] <FS> 1990 525i for $6,000 [uuc] Re: Ferrari noises in a BMW / cheap 'n easy [uuc] <E30> Reverse lights Re: [uuc] <FS> 1990 525i for $6,000 Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? [uuc] Ltw Oilpan Installation - So. Cal [uuc] Roebling Road Roll Fest Re: [uuc] Dent Wizard Party ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:22:18 -0500 From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Dent Wizard Party Sorry for accidentally posting to the list. I meant to respond privately about the dent wizard party. (stupid auto reply...) - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:17:42 -0500 From: "David Larocque - ColorImage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? >I figure that a car with two 2 Cylinder engines will cost more than twice as >much to fix as a car with one engine - Everything standard goes up 2x due to >quantity - and everything nonstandard goes up 3x or 4x because it is so >special. >Since operating and repair costs are important to me, I feel I should steer >clear of the 750 ( and M cars too). >I'd LOVE to drive a big gun ... but I don't want to pay for the ammo. Is my >assumption correct? When I was in to buy my T connector for my windshield washer the parts guy, who I know quite well told me about a customer with a 750. Just out of interest he did a customer look up and saw that this car had over $20000 CDN in work over the past 2 years. He went on to add that most of the work was standard routine maintenance other than the replacement of the self leveling rear suspension. While I applaud the 750s owners obvious enthusiasm, I think its crazy. 20g would go along way in paying down my mortgage! David Larocque ColorImage Canada Inc 416-955-9636 x 736 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 06:28:51 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <ALL>broken bolt - need advice All of my solutions use what I have laying around :) Since I don't own any EZouts but my wife does crafts. I always have some kind of epoxy laying around. You know us frugal guys. Jim Pat Donahue wrote: > > Holy Cow Jim! This is a bolt (essentially) with a hole through the center > already. Take the broke part down to the hardware store or auto supply and > buy an easy out that fits that bore size. Tap it into place (making sure > the end won't contact anything inside) and unscrew the plug. There really > won't be much effort needed as the stress is off the remainder now. > > Geeeze > '99 F250 PSD SD SC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 06:35:35 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? If 20K would significantly affect your mortgage, you can't afford a 750. Jim Can't afford a used 750 either. David Larocque - ColorImage wrote: > While I applaud the 750s owners obvious enthusiasm, I think its crazy. 20g > would go along way in paying down my mortgage! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:57:51 -0500 From: Chris Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Active noise cancellation mufflers Well, I can vouch for the fact that they are available for big stationary diesels. The company is called Walker Electronic Silencing, a division of Tenneco Automotive (BIG OEM automotive supplier). Too lazy to look for web site at the moment, but I would guess they have one. The muffler looks sort of normal except on the circumference of the inlet pipe (which for these "little" big stationary diesels is say 6"-10" diameter), there are 2 or 3 blunt cone shaped protrusions, which are the speakers, (woofers, presumably!) radially firing into the pipe where it goes into the resonator chamber. They put a microphone upstream, connect it to a big amp, and drive these "speakers" firing the anti noise. I suppose the cone material of the speakers is stainless steel or something to cope with the temps and conditions of exhaust, etc. I've seen their promotional video, and they are always at the trade shows in the engine business. The technology is pretty simple, and as previous posters have said, now that the electronics are easily chippable, it's starting to enter the mainstream. I don't know of any automotove i.e. CARS they are supplying, but I suppose it's just a matter of time. Next will be the Conforti muffler chip, to go with the engine sound CD for the interior, which makes the outside exhaust sound of your choice. Select "concert hall" or "midtown tunnel" or "intimate autocross" or "mulsanne wail" or "F1 scream" ...... Rgds, Chris Whitney '88 535i, needing exhaust, but will probably go stock "Big Six Thump". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:01:12 -0500 From: neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Ferrari noises in a BMW Correct me if I'm wrong, but some portion of the sound of a particular exhaust is the [BANG] from the engine, but that's mostly damped by the engine block, et al. The rest of the exhaust sound is the puff-puff of the actual exhaust gas moving through the pipe on its way out to join the rest of pollution in the air. A muffler or resonator slows that gas down, or something like that. An electronic baffle wouldn't be able to damp the movement of the gas (unless it re-aligned the atoms in the stuff, and magnetically slowed them down, I guess). That Lotus thingy attenuated the sound that you here in the cabin, but not the source of that sound. I noticed years ago that what CD I play (tape deck at the time of discovery) affects the tone of my exhaust. It got to the point in my old car that I would play certain tapes just to cancel the squeaks and groans of the car and engine. 'course, I could be entirely wrong..... John Bolhuis wrote: > That reminds me, does anyone know if someone's still working on >active noise cancellation mufflers? Mufflers are big & heavy, and >electronic muffler tuning just sounds like a blast! It would be great >to have a switch on the dash to choose between quiet, loud, Ferrari, >bees-in-a-can, and of course Jetsons. - -- Do Svedanya! Neil Hitze http://www.hitze.com/~neil "..the underdog will eventually survive...." --Colin James Hay "This is not a step." --Heywood Banks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:16:47 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? > When I was in to buy my T connector for my windshield washer > the parts guy, > who I know quite well told me about a customer with a 750. Just out of > interest he did a customer look up and saw that this car had > over $20000 > CDN in work over the past 2 years. He went on to add that > most of the work > was standard routine maintenance other than the replacement > of the self > leveling rear suspension. I read an article once that said you could by a small foreign country with the amount of money it takes to keep up a 750. I think they were exaggerating a little...but...:-) Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:12:49 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? $10K a year not counting depreciation or opportunity cost? That is one expensive car to own. Perhaps not all years are that expensive. As far as paying down your mortgage, my philosophy is don't borrow money for anything except your house, then borrow as much as you can for as long as you can. Its the cheapest money you can borrow and the interest is deductible. Investing in residential real estate should be only small part of your total portfolio. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > When I was in to buy my T connector for my windshield washer the parts guy, > who I know quite well told me about a customer with a 750. Just out of > interest he did a customer look up and saw that this car had over $20000 > CDN in work over the past 2 years. He went on to add that most of the work > was standard routine maintenance other than the replacement of the self > leveling rear suspension. > > While I applaud the 750s owners obvious enthusiasm, I think its crazy. 20g > would go along way in paying down my mortgage! > > > > David Larocque > ColorImage Canada Inc > 416-955-9636 x 736 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:17:32 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Need help - front suspension You should not be able to make any part of the suspension clunk by pulling and pushing with your hands. You can make a rubber bushing flex but again, no clunks. I think you found your problem. Find another shop. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello all, > > I need help diagnosing a small clunk in the front of my '95 325i. When the > brakes are applied, you can feel a clunk and a small tug to the right through > the steering wheel. It's not enough to alter the course of the car, but it's > ALWAYS to the right, never left. It doesn't appear to be life threatening, but > it's enough to cause me concern. > > Here's where it gets interesting. I took the car to the dealer to have this > looked at. I described the symptoms the best I could, and their diagnosis was - > warped rotors!? Which of course would not be covered under warranty. The front > rotors are Balos purchased from Steve D. at Ultimate Garage, with Axxis Delux > pads. They have around 15k on them, and being this is my wife's car, have never > been abused in any way. No track, autocross, and this is Florida so all of the > roads are painfully flat and straight. I'm having a very hard time believing > it's warped rotors. There is NO pulsing in the pedal, and the clunk is not felt > in the pedal, only the wheel. There is an occasional shimmy in the wheel when > braking lightly, but it stops when more pedal pressure is applied. > > I think it's a ball joint or tie rod. When I had the car up, I noticed the > right tie rod is much looser than the left. Also, I could cause a clunk in both > lower ball joints by grabbing the rotor/hub assembly and giving it a good tug. > Also, the control arm bushings seem pretty loose, with lots of sideways > movement. The problem is I don't have a good frame of reference for any of > this, so I don't know if it's normal or not. My M3 has the solid bushings so I > can't compare, but I don't remember the balls joints clunking like that. > > Any help is appreciated, I'm scheduled to go back to the dealer this afternoon. > > TIA > > Eric > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:52:40 -0500 From: "jlee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> 1990 525i for $6,000 Hi, Finally got my 1997 M3 so I have to part with my 1990 525i with an M20 motor. It has 202,000 miles but 160K of the miles are highway miles. Modifications include Mille Mignilia 11 17" wheels, 235/45/17 tires, JC Chip, drop in K&N Filter, short shift kit, B&B Triflo exhaust. Most maintenance records are available, many major replacements (water pump, timing belt) done in the last 40K miles. Car is in great shape, runs great. Selling to make room for M3. Thanks Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:22:38 -0500 From: "Pharr, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Ferrari noises in a BMW / cheap 'n easy I once owned a VW Karmann Ghia with a poorly installed radio. The power to the head unit was not a direct run to the battery and no attempt was made at installing any ignition noise suppression. The result? Ignition noise and lots of it. All I had to do was go off-station on the AM band, turn up the volume and drive. It wasn't quite a Ferrari sound, but it was a far cry from the characteristic tweet of the VW flat four. - --Jeff On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Thomas, Andrew j wrote: > In the '80s, Rover and Lotus tried to develop a system of adaptive noise > control to c*ncel out engine and tranmission noise. It didn't work out as <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:19:37 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Reverse lights Good morning gruppe, I noticed last night my reverse lights aren't working, I admit I snoozed when this subject came up previously and nothing turned up in the faq's on Dale's site, the e30net and a few others I checked. Besides bulbs, is there a component in particular that is most likely the problem? I have been removing the light covers lately to get the interior trim out (rsm replacement) but everything else works fine. Carlos 91 M3 JTD rsm's, added E36 M3 shift knob and e-brake handle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:21:08 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <FS> 1990 525i for $6,000 And you are located in ???? Jim Just a reminder to help those monitors out :) jlee wrote: > > Hi, Finally got my 1997 M3 so I have to part with my 1990 525i with an M20 > motor. It has 202,000 miles but 160K of the miles are highway miles. > Modifications include Mille Mignilia 11 17" wheels, 235/45/17 tires, JC > Chip, drop in K&N Filter, short shift kit, B&B Triflo exhaust. Most > maintenance records are available, many major replacements (water pump, > timing belt) done in the last 40K miles. Car is in great shape, runs great. > Selling to make room for M3. > > Thanks > > Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:54:58 -0500 From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Should I consider a 750? I am not saying that this makes it that much better, but the comment about 20,000 dollars in maintenance was in Canadian Dollars. Just my $.02 Dean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:35:33 -0800 From: Michael Reinhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Ltw Oilpan Installation - So. Cal It's time to do something with this lightweight oilpan setup I bought through the group purchase last year (have been very busy). Has anyone in the Southern california area had this done by a mechanic that they would recommend? Michael Reinhart Rain tires for Sears Point this weekend? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:44:26 -0500 From: Peter H Reinhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Roebling Road Roll Fest Seth Thomas has located a fender-roller and is prepared to bring it to the First Coast Chapters lapping day and driver school (http://www.firstcoastbmw.org/school.htm) to Roebling Road over the weekend of February 25/26/27. This is the same Haweka fender roller used by the Tire Rack. Some pictures of it are on the BMW power pages (http://www.bmwmpower.com/Gallery/haweka.htm). The waiting list to get this from the Tire Rack always seems to be about 6 months, and you have to leave them a close relative as ransom while you're using it..... If there is interest for a Roll Fest at Roebling please let me know privately. The cost may be *very* low. Cheers, Peter Reinhart - http://www.neuro.duke.edu/phr/m3.html NCC/Tarheel Chapters BMWCCA (E36 M3/4) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:45:46 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Dent Wizard Party Philly is probably 1.5+ hours away. I'd expect cheaper than $100 each! A LOT cheaper. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Binder, Larry - Paoli <> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [uuc] Dent Wizard Party > Let me know when, I have a few I need to get done. I'm just outside of > Philly. How far from Brunswick, NJ is that? If they do good work then I'm > in! A local detailer quoted me $100 per panel. (two panels=$200) Do you > think it will be cheaper than that? > > Larry > 97 318i > > Mech Designer/Draftsman > Synthes Spine > > ************************************************************************* > The opinions and statements expressed above are mine, and do not reflect > that of my employer. > ************************************************************************* > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 11:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [uuc] Dent Wizard Party > > > > Dings. > > > > I hate 'em and yes, my M5 has one that catches my eye every time I walk > > by. > > Argh. > > > > Many of you must also have some of this evidence of the parking > > carelessness > > of the unwashed masses. > > > > So what to do about it? > > > > DENT WIZARD PARTY! > > > > These Dent Wizard places usually charge a flat rate per panel or ding or > > whatever to come out to your house and make the mark disappear. A lot of > > their cost has to be the individual trip, right? What if a bunch of us > > got > > our cars together in one place... might they give a discounted rate for > > doing several cars all at once? > > > > I plan on finding out about a "bulk rate" soon and I will post it. The > > get-together of all of these dented-up cars would be at my house in North > > Brunswick, NJ (Middlesex County). It would also be a great opportunity to > > meet other list members and drool on each others' cars. We would probably > > do this in early March. > > > > If you are interested in getting in on this, drop me an e-mail PRIVATELY > > (no > > need to send to the entire list) and let me know how many dings on your > > car > > need "wizarding". > > > > - Rob Levinson > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #258 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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