[uucdigest] Tuesday, February 22 2000 Volume 03 : Number 310 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] <E30> won't go into first gear [uuc] <E34> Arm rest and surging problems [uuc] A/M switch, BTCC sequential gearboxes Re: [uuc] Re: [WOB] Mountain Dew Re: [uuc] <E30> won't go into first gear [uuc] Re: <E30> and <E36> won't go into first gear Re: [uuc] My first driver's school [uuc] Re: M528e R-Type Re: [uuc] M528e R-Type Re: [uuc] FWD handling [uuc] <e30> Identifying a 325i -w- sport pkg [uuc] Re: insurance pays for crashed car Re: [uuc] FWD handling ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:00:55 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis A. Ingraham) Subject: [uuc] <E30> won't go into first gear In UUC Digest v03.n308 Robb Alarcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I bled the clutch and the problem still persists. At times > I just can't get the damn thing into first gear unless I go to > second and then back to first. Some times I can't even get it > into second and have to go to third ! I put my money on a clutch that is not releasing completely. Other symptoms: * hard to shift into reverse * car sometimes creeps in first or reverse on flat ground with clutch pedal down and brake released * easier shifting when engine is stopped It happened to me. In my case the clutch disc was not sliding smoothly on the input shaft splines due to lack of lubrication. Curt Ingraham 72 2002tii oakland, California ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:15:48 -0500 From: "Mathews, Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E34> Arm rest and surging problems I bought a 92 525i 5-speed about two weeks ago & I have 2 problems I could use a little help with. The car has 82,xxx miles and was well taken care of by the PO. 1. Drivers arm rest is completely broken. I had been able to make it work if I beat on it, but now it just spins through the full range (and then some). I was able to pull the arm rest completely off the seat. Inside the cylinder on the arm rest is the remains of the pin that I assume holds it in place. Any ideas on how to fix or how expensive to have fixed? 2. I have a slight surging problem that I am guessing is either electrical or fuel related. When holding a steady speed or slightly decelerating by just easing off the gas, there is a slight surging or bucking. It seems to be worse when engine is cold. I know the coil has been replaced but not sure about other components (plugs etc). Any ideas on where to begin looking?? Any help is appreciated. Tracy Mathews 92 525i 5-speed BMWCCA 150000 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:22:30 -0500 From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] A/M switch, BTCC sequential gearboxes Hello all, I just started using the manual option on my car on daily basis. It makes a big difference in the cars performance. As long as I keep my rpm's below the redline am I hurting my engine by running them high? Also, when downshifting, should I keep my foot on the accelerator to help match the rpms or should I take it off and let it try and do this automatically? Does anyone know how sequential gearboxes work? Do the ones that the BTCC use have a clutch? Are the BTCC ones similar to the ones that are coming on a lot of cars now? I'd appreciate any info you all could give me on these subjects. TIA Larry 97 318i Mech Designer/Draftsman Synthes Spine ************************************************************************* The opinions and statements expressed above are mine, and do not reflect that of my employer. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:37:10 -0600 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [WOB] Mountain Dew It is actually the third person who drinks it (important part of the ad) and dies, and the ad is "Only one product actually kills a third of hte people who use it." "tobacco" www.thetruth.com I can't believe someone actually thought that was a real ad for a real drink. Michael Aaron De Clerck wrote: > > Off topic, but--are you missing the last 5 seconds of the "SPLODE" > commercial? It's actually an anti-smoking PSA, one of the more inventive > ones. Something about a product that causes death when used as directed... > > -A. > > --On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 7:31 AM -0600 Brian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Referring to John Stoj's comment to Milo about laying off the mountain dew > > that 16 year olds drink.....You must not be watching enough TV John! > > > > Mountain Dew is out and the new kid on the block is "SPLODE" (Dude) "with > > 10 times the carbonation of regular carbonated drinks" > > > > The spot on TV shows kids bungie jumping of a bridge out in a mountainous > > area and at the bottom of their "trip" they grab a can of SPLODE off a > > rock and on the return trip up, they pop the can and the drink sprays out > > of the can into the participants mouth (sort of----) > > > > Second jumper gets his can of SPLODE and when he pops it, there is a huge > > explosion and he is GONE ("sploded" I guess) > > > > Brian > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:46:07 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> won't go into first gear Rob, I haven't been following this thread very carefully, and this may be a reach, but have you checked your transmission mounts? I ran into this problem a couple of years ago on my 318is. Car wouldn't go into 1st until after putting it in second. I noticed this most frequently when the car had been parked in gear, without using the parking break, on a hill. It turned out on of the tranny mounts was sheared through - visible if I moved the tranny upwards with a prybar. It was *NOT* visible on a lift without doing this! Parking in gear twisted the drive train ever so slightly and interfered with the shifter motion. The above makes it sound like I figured this out on my own. The truth is I'm not smart enough by half (at least). Mike Morris (Schneller, Newburyport MA) spotted this during a pretrack inspection. I didn't realize the connection between the tranny mount until the shifting problem went away! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:48:46 EST From: "Shawn Crews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E30> and <E36> won't go into first gear Same problem here. Once my car warms up, it's fine. I just swapped my fluid last week. Thought that was it....nope. Clutch is like new. - -Shawn 1994 318is >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:39:37 -0600 >From: "Alarcon, Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] <E30> won't go into first gear > >Well, I bled the clutch and the problem still persists. At times I just >can't >get the damn thing into first gear unless I go to second and then back to >first. Some times I can't even get it into second and have to go to third >! >This problem is quite annoying, especially since I live in a very hilly >area >with impatient unskilled drivers that like to ride up your ... as far as I >can tell, >and judging from all of the input, I'd have to say the synchros are to >blame. > >Anybody ever have the synchros replaced ? Is it even a worthwhile >endeavor ? Should I start shopping for a new gearbox ? > >Robb Alarcon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:16:31 -0600 From: Luis Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] My first driver's school "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think anyone seeks to design a FWD car to lift the inside > rear, it is just something that happens. Once the rear lifts, the > weight transfer distribution becomes 100% front. Huh? How does lifting the inside rear sends *all* the weight front? I think you meant to say that all the _rear_ weight transfers to the outside wheel. Usually to load it up and decrease rear grip to hopefully neutralize some of that understeer FWD cars are notorious for. > Typical weight transfer distribution for a FWD is 50/50. RWD > typically has 80/20. ????? Are you talking about static weight distribution, or trail braking, or steady-state cornering? Or powering out of a turn? how about heavy braking? Any car can have practically any weight distribution between 30/70% and 70/30% f/r depending on what you're doing. Static weight distributions for typical FWD cars are close to 60/40% f/r. RWD cars can have static weight distributions anywhere between 60/40% (F*rd Must*ng), to 50/50 (M3, 951), to 40/60 f/r (911). Get on the gas, weight transfers back; get on the brakes, it transfers forward... - -Luis Marques '97 328i ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:23:08 -0800 From: Tom Childers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: M528e R-Type All absolutely true. My thinking right now is to buy the car back if it is totaled. The components are worth as much as the car, especially if the engine is intact. OTOH, I have talked to my insurance company about insuring it for it's real worth, around $10K at a guess. All they want is a letter from a well-known dealer or independent shop verifying the value, and pictures of the car. I have all of these on hand, and simply have to decide if I want to pay the extra $500 per year to insure the car fully, and lose the opportunity to buy back the car for next to nothing if it is wrecked. - -tdc At 08:55 AM 2/18/00 -0800, Scott D Miller wrote: >Yes, Tom can insure and register the car as a 528e, but what happens if >he's in an accident and major parts are damaged? The insurance company >will either pay to fix, or else total the car based on the value of a 528e >and its parts. They will not replace the M mechanicals, which, if I'm not >mistaken, cost just a smidgen more than the average eta stuff. As long as >Tom understands and is willing to take that risk, that is fine. But I, for >one, would not want to read his complaints when the insurance company >refuses to give him $$$M for a car that they thought was a simple eta. > >The alternative would be to tell the insurance company about the car's more >valuable content and pay the appropriate premium. Yes, you can do that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:27:30 -0800 From: Tom Childers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M528e R-Type I'm sure it did. But I didn't do the work...I just bought the car for $11K. It was in the Dec '98 thru Feb '99 Roundel. - -tdc At 07:20 PM 2/17/00 -0500, Steve wrote: >Yeah, it registers as a 528e, but didn't the conversion costs outweigh the >saving in insurance and the like for at least the next 10 years?! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:00:06 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] FWD handling Once a rear tire lifts, the outside FRONT gets added load which causes more understeer. Rear tires on a FWD do a LOT more than keep the fuel tank up. They obviously do less than on a RWD car but they are very important in the scheme of things. Speculative conversations between list members can be interesting but please identify your replies as speculation, not matter-of-fact. In God we trust, all others bring data. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > At turn in and if they're going fast enough they keep it up > > > throughout the turn. Not unusual with a VW/Neon/Sentra/take your > > > pick FWD econobox with large sway bars. I like to call it the > > > "doggie leg" because they look like they're pee-ing. heh...heh... > > > > Interesting. Seems like it would indicate a pre-spin condition, > > but that's an uninformed opinion. > > It COULD lead to a spin BUT since the rear wheels on an FWD car don't > do more than keep the fuel tank off the pavement, it is more a > side-effect of the nose-heavy weight distribution. Of course, if the > driver isn't smooth, the single rear wheel can be easily overloaded, > thus starting a slide. If the driver doesn't add more throttle to > pull the car straight, it's time for a "scenic tour". > > ===== > Matthew Yip > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ > > '87 GTi 16v - x2 > '88 M5 > '99 F350 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 22 Feb 00 11:32:59 PST From: Tom Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <e30> Identifying a 325i -w- sport pkg Hi folks: I understand that in 1991 BMW offered a sports package for the 325i in both the 2 door and 4 door versions (there was no 325is). Is there any easy way to identify these cars? Does the VIN# specifiy the sport package? If not, is there a specific suspension component that would be visably identifiable to a non-technical person? Thanks for any help... Tom ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:33:36 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: insurance pays for crashed car Hi Dave, BTDT. >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:57:05 -0600 >From: Dave Foos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: LTW for sale (insurance pays for crashed car) > >This is very interesting to me. How exactly does it work when you call the >insurance >company after crashing your car at a (I'm assuming) drivers school? At a 1995 GGC driving school at Sears Point, in my case. Actually, before I called the company officially, I privately called a claims adjuster friend of mine who worked for that company, and asked what would happen if I submitted a claim. She said they would pay it. So I called to report the accident. The funny (well, now) part was the line of questioning about the accident. Describe the street. (One way race track.) Any intersections? (Um, no.) Were you exceeding the speed limit? (There isn't one.) How fast were you going? (I don't know, I don't look at the speedometer in the middle of a turn.) They use the same standard set of questions, regardless of the circumstances. >I know - a driver school is a NON-Timed, NON-competitive event and therefore >covered by many insurance companies. I have State Farm, and I'm told that >they >will cover me - but something in the back of my mind wonders. That's who insured me, and they still do. >At the very least it has GOT to jack your insurance premiums up real high, >if >you're lucky enough not to be dropped altogether. As a solo accident with no injuries, it counted only as one point, and it was my first point in many years, so it did not raise the rates. Had I been caught for, say, speeding as often as I actually speed, it would have been a different story. Excuse me while I look for wood on which to knock. >Forgive me if this is an >old thread (I'm new), but does anyone want to share their personal >experience >in this scenario? > >David Foos >'95 ///M3 >BMW CCA # 172816 Just did. But before you take my word for it, double check your policy. When I contacted my adjuster friend, she reviewed the policy and discovered that, somewhere along the line, the racing exclusion had been omitted from the document. So actually, I could have been in a race and they would have had to cover me. However, I was told that they've since added back the racing exclusion. So check the policy. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 1990 325i/isH (hybrid, modified from parts of the totalled car) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:42:04 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] FWD handling Uh - don't think that's entirely true. I've spun FWDs that were three-wheeling which, even based on my liberal arts background, isn't caused by understeer. However, since I can't provide data to substantiate my findings, I'll leave it to the engineering students to battle this one out. BTW, Gary, have you ever driven an FWD competitively? - --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once a rear tire lifts, the outside FRONT gets added load which > causes more understeer. Rear tires on a FWD do a LOT more than keep the fuel tank up. They obviously do less than on a RWD car but they are very important in the scheme of things. > > Speculative conversations between list members can be interesting > but please identify your replies as speculation, not matter-of-fact. > > In God we trust, all others bring data. ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #310 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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