[uucdigest] Wednesday, February 23 2000 Volume 03 : Number 322 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] New M5 Main. Schedule [uuc] Flip Up Helmets Re: [uuc] New M5 Main. Schedule [uuc] K-MAC Camber Plates Re: [uuc] K-MAC Camber Plates [uuc] <wob> Re: Helmet question Re: [uuc] New M5 Main. Schedule [uuc] Re: <e30> Identifying a 325i -w- sport pkg [uuc] Want a great deal on a "cheap head-turner BMW"? [uuc] RE: Need to know the street value of a E30 325iS [uuc] Shift Knob Location [uuc] Fixing titles Re: [uuc] <E30 M3> E30M3 versus S2000 with a 5500 RPM shift point [uuc] Annoying Squeaking Clutch Re: [uuc] <E30 M3> E30M3 versus S2000 with a 5500 RPM shift point [uuc] BMW Individual; engine placement ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:13:57 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] New M5 Main. Schedule OK Bill, what's a Mobility Cartridge? - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:19:21 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Flip Up Helmets Tom, Rob doesn't want to try the straw techique on his ice cream cone lest his skull implodes. : ) A J--O--K--E. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:32:09 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] New M5 Main. Schedule KKiely wrote: > OK Bill, what's a Mobility Cartridge? a Cartridge of BMW approved "fix-a-flat" goop for the BMW approved "fix-a-flat" ar compressor that M cars get instead of a spare ;-) all those big fancy mufflers eliminate the place that a spare would go. Ben Keyes '99 M coupe w/"M-Mobility" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:35:35 -0800 (PST) From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] K-MAC Camber Plates Exploring options for camber plates on my 91 M5. Experiences or recommendations? Ride quality issues? Recommended street and track settings? Also, where is the best place to buy them. Looking forward to some more turn in and less understeer. Turn 4 at Sears Point was killing me. Kevin Kelly Golden Gate Chapter. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:50:01 -0500 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] K-MAC Camber Plates Kevin, I used the BMW camber repair bearings for my '91 M5 as part of switching to the complete Dinan Stage I suspension (yeah, no sways added) and new front dampers as well. The entire package really helped turn-in. If you just want to put in some camber plates you might try Ground Control just to see if they have something for your car. Their E36 camber plates are a thing of beauty and they are functional (I run the E30 variant on my race car). Go to http://www.ground-control.com/ and see what they have to say. Geeeze '88 325is SCCA ITS #88 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "kjk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Exploring options for camber plates on my 91 M5. > Experiences or recommendations? Ride quality issues? > Recommended street and track settings? Also, where is > the best place to buy them. Looking forward to some > more turn in and less understeer. Turn 4 at Sears > Point was killing me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:11:34 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <wob> Re: Helmet question Chip said: >- - Chip >p.s. What's with you wanting to eat ice cream in a >helmet. Maybe I don't wanna know. ;-) > >> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:15:03 -0500 >> From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [uuc] Helmet question >> >> I saw a really cool helmet in a movie shot in Europe >> so I'm not sure this >> kind is available or legal in the US as I've never >> seen one before... >> >> It was a full-face helmet except the entire front >> including the chin part >> could swivel up. Looked like the best of both >> worlds - full protection and >> you could eat an ice cream cone without taking it >> off. If you don't want to know about eating ice cream in the helmet, just wait until you hear how his poodles fit into this scheme! Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:21:10 -0500 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] New M5 Main. Schedule > KKiely wrote: > > > OK Bill, what's a Mobility Cartridge? > Then Ben answered, > a Cartridge of BMW approved "fix-a-flat" goop for the BMW approved > "fix-a-flat" ar compressor that M cars get instead of a spare ;-) all > those big fancy mufflers eliminate the place that a spare would go. > And then Bill said: It was either the mufflers or the spare would take up the space of one of the three golf bags that are a mandatory fit in every 5 series car(since it comes with golf bag placement instructions that would require an major engineering study on golf bag placement if anything changed in the trunk). However, since M-Mobility is placed in a well with a sh$t load of styrafoam to hold it in place, the whole mess takes up at least 50% of the room of a spare. I would have thought the engineering geniuses at BMW would have figured out some way to fit in a spare. Hell I'd even give up 2 of the golf bags. I run 45 profile tires on one of my Volvos and have had experience with a cut sidewall where fix-a-flat goop even from BMW wouldn't put air back in the tire. I'm probably going to give up some of the luggage carrying capability on long trips so that I can carry a real spare (and my own jack, since it doesn't come with that either).;^) ;^) If that just sounded like a rant it's not, I'm too busy grinning from ear to ear every time I drive this car. Bill Matthews Hockessin DE 00 MGeeze Some Volvos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:26:32 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <e30> Identifying a 325i -w- sport pkg Randy advises, among other things: >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:18:14 -0800 >From: Randy Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] Re: <e30> Identifying a 325i -w- sport pkg <snip> >It was also the only E30 hard top to be available in >that deep aqua-blue color (Lagoon green?). > Randy Walters > 89 325is > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=153582&a=1200064 Lagoon? Laguna green, please. Laguna has a nice, upscale sound. "Lagoon" sounds more like some kind of pond scum. I love that Laguna color. It was actually an E36 color that ended up on a few E30 sedans and convertibles at the end of the E30 production run. While I'm trying not to "invest" too much money in my E30 (saving up for a newer M3 some day, you know), I'd just about give my left testicle for a Laguna green E30 325i 4 door with sport package. Scott "Still Got A Few Body Parts Remaining" Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 1990 325i/isH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:39:55 -0500 From: "Lane Flynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Want a great deal on a "cheap head-turner BMW"? Check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=266251084 The reserve's only $12,888! I bet the guy has that much invested in vinyl alone! - --Lane Flynn BMW CCA #158896 94 325is <--sharked, BL/SS/ERK'd, M3 susp/wheel'd, Euro lighting, Euro wipers, one-touch sunroof, painted trim, integrated GDO, VDO gauges, devoid of stickers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:00:11 -0600 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Need to know the street value of a E30 325iS Sorry, (having a lousy day: ask Scott Miller about my spelling ;) It sounded like you were checking out how much you can make by re-selling her car on the market. Anyway, the resale value for these late E30's are amazingly respectable. A '90 325is will cost you almost as much as a '90 735i! For price guidelines, check out: http://www.nada.com http://www.edmunds.com http://www.kbb.com Edmund's will always be on the way way way low side. Nada is roughly right on the money. KBB will have the highest resale values. For totally out of this world prices on used bimmers, see the Roundel for sale adds ;-) good luck, alex f > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Reiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 2:40 PM > To: Fadeev, Alex > Subject: Re: Need to know the street value of a E30 325iS > > > > sell it again. I want to make sure I won't take a loss on it. > > > > Jon, > > No offense, but you are basically asking us by how wide a > > margin you can screw your friend??! > > > > alex f > > Huh? How do you get that out of the email I sent? That is > not my intention at all. I seriously have no idea the value > of this car, in my area. She and I are trying to agree on a > price where I will have no problem selling it at the same price > so it won't cost me anything. It is simply a favor to her. > So how is that screwing her over?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:45:02 -0800 From: Gustave Stroes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Shift Knob Location >From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] E46 M3 red bits > >That gearstick looks a bit long though, doesn't it. And what happened to the >evocative "M Power" script on the valve cover? > >Andy T Let's see. Where is your right hand when you're driving? So presuming you want to minimize the time your hand is off the wheel when shifting, then where would be the best place to locate the shift knob? 8^) Or: have you ever seen the inside of a modern Super Touring car? Notice where the shifter is relative to the steering wheel? Gustave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:17:29 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Fennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Fixing titles Anyone have experience fixing errors in titles in NJ? I sold my M3 and when the lein holder faxed a copy of the title to the buyer, he noticed it read 231426 miles vs. 31426. Thankfully, I still have the odometer disclosure from the dealer and it reads 31426 but it's not notarized. The DMV won't even look into it until my lein holder sends them the title. I'm very concerned about this. What's the Carfax report going to look like after they fix the title, assuming they even do? Will it show the error then the correction? I could see that being a problem for a potential future buyer. Michael Fennell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:45:02 -0600 From: "-A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 M3> E30M3 versus S2000 with a 5500 RPM shift point > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:36:04 -0800 (PST) > From: John Stoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 M3> E30M3 versus S2000 with a 5500 RPM shift point > Now, on to the limited rev test. I wonder why they chose 5500 RPM. Since > they did, however, if you wanted to do a similar test with an E30 M3, then I > would do it on an RPM percentage basis. I don't know the exact redline of > the E30 M3, but the s2k's is 9000, so 5500/9000 = 61%. I figure you should > use 61% of the M3's redline to equal out the test. What would that be? > 4000? Try your M3 0-60 shifting at 4000. I think it will be quite slow. I believe 5500rpm is VTEC's engagment point when it switches to the performance cam, at least this is true for the other performance VTEC models (Civic Si, Prelude SH, ITR, etc.). I can verify this with my Honda driving friends but I am almost positive of this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:57:06 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Annoying Squeaking Clutch My 95 M3 is slowly wearing away at my sanity level with the clutch peddle squeaking. I tried some WD-40 but had no effect. Anyone have this experience? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:01:19 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 M3> E30M3 versus S2000 with a 5500 RPM shift point In a message dated 2/23/00 2:22:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Yes, you should of course have used the same percentage of max revs as the S2000 for your shift point. >> It might not be so simple as there are other variables. And the Honda peaks at 8300 so what do you use for max revs? Don't forget that this is just an anecdotal test. For one thing the cars are geared differently. And mine is lightly modified. One magazine says max S2000 revs are 8800 another says 9000 or more. If we use the 8800 from R&T in the drivetrain section of the recent test then an equal percentage would give 4531 for a 7250 max stocker, 4750 for Dinan chipped and 5125 for ERT. If we use the 4500 RPM limit then we need to shift the M3 into 4th at around 50 mph while the S2000 drops into it's 4th gear at around 56 MPH So the M3 spends less time in the lower gears and has to gain 2 1/2 times the MPH in 4th gear than the Honda. Also the M3 doesn't need super high revs to launch. In the case of the Honda running at 5500 RPM max, that is the launch RPM which idealy would be 7500 RPM. The BMW needs way less, in my case around 2500 or so. So you can launch it as hard as evfer in a test like this one. See what I mean about too many variables? However you'd like to crunch it the E30 M3 retains more of it's acceleration when running at lower revs than does the S2000. The Early M3 is frequently criticized for being dead below 4000 compared to above...well it is but less so than some other cars. In the case of the Honda it is mild below around 6000 and then goes totally wild. Stan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:30:45 +1100 From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] BMW Individual; engine placement John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > Personally, I don't need/want most of the more individual Individual > offerings, but I would like to be able to mix and match paint and trim > colors differently, and I would happily sign up for a 'you pay for it, we > build it, it's yours, and no whining' approach. Without patronising the general BMW buying public, I believe you may be in the minority here, John. The threat of leaving BMW with a puce 7 series, complete with silver bonnet and fur-lined dashboard (Karl Lagerfeld's car) sitting on the lot is too great for them to put the programme properly into place in come countries. I inquired about some trim/paint changes to my 318is when I bought it five years ago - paint from the 5 series range and half-leather trim on the standard, not sports seats. After the sharp intake of breath I was told that it was perfectly possible via the Individual programme, but would cost me the earth (about two thousand quid for the paint, fifteen hundred for the trim). A waste, basically. The lead time would be considerably greater than the estimated five months (!) for a car built with "standard" options, if you see what I mean. Moreover, I would be requested to put down an almighty deposit, presumably to offset the cost of having to sell a non-standard 3 should I renege on the deal. Mind you, that was one small dealer on the outskirts of London not used to supplying anything other than the usual stock. No doubt a Central London dealership would have treated the matter rather more indifferently. Further on the subject of BMW's propensity to mount the engine well back in the chassis: it's to optimise weight distribution, according to the brochures I've read over the years. Haynes' instructions on changing plugs on the six-cylinder cars didn't indicate any trouble getting to the rearmost cylinder. This desire to achieve balance is presumably why the V8 in the X5 is mounted about a foot lower than the bonnet line (forcing the front axle to run through the sump). The four-pot cars are practically mid-engined, if you think about it; the distance between the front axle and the engine is probably similar to the gap between the rear axle and the engine of many traditional "mid-engined" cars. (Does the engine have to be towards the rear of the car to be called "mid-engined"?). I could almost stand in the gap between the front of the engine and the radiator of my old coupe, if it wasn't for all that plastic. Andy T "This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. 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