[uucdigest] Sunday, February 27 2000 Volume 03 : Number 344 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] JimC Flash reprogram in DC area ? [uuc] Re: X5 [uuc] Passed by a sled (was Rob's New Toy) [uuc] Pivoting sideview (was: Life with THE SLED) [uuc] Re: E36 Cabrio lights Re: [uuc] Pivoting sideview (was: Life with THE SLED) Re: [uuc] Pivoting sideview (was: Life with THE SLED) [uuc] <E30> Idle Control Valve [uuc] Re: swivel on rear view mirror [uuc] Re: Durango Compass [uuc] <Misc> Sin City Driving School, April 29-30 [uuc] FS: 4 spoke M3 steering wheel [uuc] <misc> Pro Gold products [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] Off to GA for my new toy [uuc] How do these darn vents work?b [uuc] Korman Open House [uuc] E30 M3 wanted Re: [uuc] Anti-Roll Bars and Metal Fatigue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:48:55 -0600 From: Warren Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] JimC Flash reprogram in DC area ? Lee wrote: > > Hi guys, are there any shops in the washington dc metro area that will > install the JimC software for OBDII ? I would think this would be cheaper to > just go into a shop rather than pay for fedex shipping back and forth. If > there are no shops here, then where is the closest one ? Give Curry's a call. They're a local sponsor too. http://www.currysauto.com (703)502-0400 Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:39:25 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: X5 Don't you think that would be akin to calling the 325iX a sedaX, rather than a sedan? Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] X5 > > since BMW 4 wheel drive has always been badged with an X shouldn't the X5 be > called the "SUX" (Sport Utility 4 wheel drive)? > > Brian Jacobs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:11:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Passed by a sled (was Rob's New Toy) Henry said... cut >>>Now there's a sled that can kick some arss!!!! Imagine getting pass down the straight by a sled..... a nightmare!!!! Hey, my wife does this to unsuspecting drivers at the track in her Volvo turbo wagon and the new one is 261 hp, AWD and a slush box. That "Brick" kicks tail and is very unassuming. Watch your mirrors!!! Her license plates are "TRAKBRIK". I did show her Rob's new toy. She said "why didn't you get me that"! Vince 99 M3 00 Volvo V70 R AWD (the wife's kid mover) *******************Internet Email Confidentiality Footer******************* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:41:11 -0400 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Pivoting sideview (was: Life with THE SLED) At 11:29 AM -0500 2/27/2000, Duane Collie wrote: >* Electrics. They're everywhere. Too many gizmos, bells and switches. Is >BMW's idea of luxury to install more gadgets to break down the road? What >rocket scientist thought it would be neat to have the outside mirror pivot >down when in reverse? Not only is this a stupid idea as you can't use the >mirror for backing then, but it adds one more circuit and one more set of >wires to a car that has miles of that stuff anyway. Actually I would love that option. I back into my parking space with a curb on my passenger side and a minivan on the other. I aim my mirror down to be sure I'm close enough to the curb. Maybe that 'feature' should be selectable depending on which coded key you use. ...steven 1998 E36/5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:41:28 +1100 From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: E36 Cabrio lights Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asks: > Does the E36 Cabrio have the same front and rear turn > signals as the E36 Coupe and Sedan? The convertible items are the same as the coupe's; the trailing edges of both are more steeply raked than the sedan's. There's no electrical difference, so you can interchange coupe and convertible clear front lenses. Same goes for the rear lamp clusters (although the difference in shape is more obvious - the sedan lights are taller). Andy T "This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone +61 2 9335 7000 and destroy the original message. Thank you." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:12:41 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Pivoting sideview (was: Life with THE SLED) The feature is selectable by the position of the mirror select switch. Something like if it's to adjust the left mirror, the right mirror goes up and down when reversing. If it's at the right mirror side, it doesn't move....or vice versa. Chester - --- Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually I would love that option. I back into my parking space with a curb > on my passenger side and a minivan on the other. I aim my mirror down to be > sure I'm close enough to the curb. Maybe that 'feature' should be > selectable depending on which coded key you use. > > ...steven > 1998 E36/5 > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:32:25 -0500 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Pivoting sideview (was: Life with THE SLED) > At 11:29 AM -0500 2/27/2000, Duane Collie wrote: > > >* Electrics. They're everywhere. Too many gizmos, bells and switches. Is > >BMW's idea of luxury to install more gadgets to break down the road? What > >rocket scientist thought it would be neat to have the outside mirror pivot > >down when in reverse? Not only is this a stupid idea as you can't use the > >mirror for backing then, but it adds one more circuit and one more set of > >wires to a car that has miles of that stuff anyway. > > Actually I would love that option. I back into my parking space with a curb > on my passenger side and a minivan on the other. I aim my mirror down to be > sure I'm close enough to the curb. Maybe that 'feature' should be > selectable depending on which coded key you use. > On my 00 E39 it is selectable depending on whether or not I have the adjusting switch set to left or right mirror. Set to left (drivers mirror) the right mirror tilts down in reverse, when set to the right the right mirror does not tilt. I at first thought it sort of worthless because I do use my mirrors for full back view when I back up, but have had occasion twice in 2 months to switch it so it shows the curb. Bill Matthews Hockessin DE MGeeze some Volvos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:46:48 -0800 From: "Boyd, David (Neighbour Boy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Idle Control Valve Well, my ICV has finally gone kaput and it's time for a new one. Does anybody know if there's a place that sells rebuilt units? If there is, do they work well, or should I just shell out the $150 or so to get a new one. Thanks much - --David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:53:33 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: swivel on rear view mirror when shifting into reverse the outside right mirror pivots down, useful when parallel parking, so you can see the curb.... you can easily defeat this feature by switching the control to the other mirror..... my 1990 BMW mirror still works fine, by the way..... Kris in Illinois 97 BMW 750il 99 Dodge Durango 5.9 92 Porsche 968 tip coupe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:57:33 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Durango Compass the Durango compass, and many others, have a ceiling display.... in the headliner, far forward, and centered..... this green digital display alternates between temp/compass, avg mpg, instant mpg, DTE, etc.... Mita makes an aftermarket rearview mirror with temp/compass I wonder why BMW doesn't have a compass reading, at least one that doesn't require GPS navigation Kris in Illinois ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:07:31 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <Misc> Sin City Driving School, April 29-30 The Sin City Driving School, April 29 - 30, 2000 is over half full! If you want to get in to the school, I encourage you to send in your application as soon as possible. If you want an application or more information, please email me. Cheers, Kirk Lachman, President Sin City Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:57:32 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] FS: 4 spoke M3 steering wheel Like the subject line says: 4 spoke M3 steering wheel (does not include airbag) Tri-colored stitching Fits any E36 with 4 spoke already (uses your stock airbag) Leather shows slight wear on the top. Located in Southern CA $125 firm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:17:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc> Pro Gold products Anybody have any experience with Pro Gold products? There was a *very good* review of their bicycle chain lube (which I can't find in any of the catalogs) in Bicycling a few months ago... and as I peruse their web site (http://www.progoldmfr.com/index.htm), I see they make automotive products as well. Sounds a bit snake_oil-ish... but the folks at Bicycling are just crazy for their chain lube, so I wonder if there's some merrit to this "metal friction reducer" business. - - Kevin Jay '96 328is, red/tan, 23K parts bike (Cannondale road frame), 10K in current incarnation ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:21:55 -0500 From: "Curt Kiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] Off to GA for my new toy Uh, Rob? I used Brett as an 'expert' when buying my M5 and it costs me big bucks later!!! Just kidding, Brett told me about the issues and they were all correct (darn). That is one sweet grocery getter Rob. Please tell us you will autocross and track it at least once! Curt Kiser BMW CCA Tidewater Virginia Chapter 88' M5 <Brett Anderson (www.koalamotorsport.com) will be joining me there to give his <expert opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:43:34 -0500 From: Stephen Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] How do these darn vents work?b How does the small vents for the backseat work? In Stella, my E32, they are located between the drivers seat, facing the rear seat passengers. I've read the manual, and tried various combinations of vent/fan/settings in Stella, but can't reliably get the vents to work/notwork. Thanks! Steve Jones 1990 750iL "Stella" Peachtree Chapter BMWCCA #164681 pics at http://conundrumcomputing.com/bimmer.htm mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:53:23 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Korman Open House We will have the Dynapack chassis dyno at Korman's open house next Saturday. Attendees will get a chance to observe how this machine works in comparison to traditional roller dynos. SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 M3 wanted Looking for a working E30 M3; prefer in the SE area. Need not be a garage queen, but something in good working order. Going for mechanical soundness over looks right now, but will consider almost anything. - -- Just Moe '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS BMWCCA Peachtree Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:04:31 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Anti-Roll Bars and Metal Fatigue Good explanation, Gustave. I have a few bits to add. The endurance limit for steel is approximately 50% of its ultimate load. Springs should be designed below the fatigue limit. At these lower stress levels, metal doesn't creep much but it does fatigue if the spring surface is corroded. That really kills a part that sees cyclic loading. The corrosion causes deep crevasses on the surface, each one causes a stress concentration which results in local yielding and eventual fracture. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >The way I understand it there is no metal that does not fatigue at some level. >There are some, like aluminum, that fatigue at all levels. Hence, the saying >that Al does not have a real fatigue strength or whatever. So, no matter how >low the loading Al will fail in fatigue eventually. > >Neil Deshpande > > What you are referring to is called the "endurance limit". This is the level below which a metal part will show no fatigue. Aluminum has an endurance limit of zero. Thus if you cycle and aluminum part through even the smallest reversing stress, it will eventually fail due to fatigue (it may take 100 years, but theory says it will fail). This is what makes some people so nervous about airliners, which are built almost entirely out of aluminum. > > For a steel part, you can design it so that the operational stresses fall well below the endurance limit. This ensures that the part will never fail due to fatigue. I do not have any calculations to back me up but I suspect that springs and sway bars are loaded below their endurance limits in most normal applications. Thus fatigue should not be an issue for these parts. > > So what happens when springs sag over time? Isn't that caused by fatigue? No. This is caused by something called "creep". If you load a metal part with a constant force (i.e. the weight of a car acting on a spring day in day out), then the part will slowly rearrange itself to accommodate the force. Thus a spring can sag after years of holding up the weight of a car, but this does not alter it's spring rate. > > The spring rate of either a spring or an anti-roll bar is governed by the Young's Modulus of the material from which it is made. Young's modulus is sort of like a metal's spring rate. For two parts with the same shape subject to the same loads, the part with the lower Young's modulus will deflect more. > > The tricky part for many people to grasp is that all steels have roughly the same Young's modulus (give or take a few percent). Thus a mild steel sway bar and a 4130 sway bar (of the same configuration) will have the same stiffness. > > The advantage to chrome-moly (4130) over mild steel is that it has a higher "yield strength". If you load a metal part beyond its yield strength than the part will plastically deform. In other words, when you remove the load the part will not return back to it's original shape. It is permanently deformed. Since 4130 has a higher yield strength than mild steel, you can subject a 4130 part to higher loads before it plastically deforms. But as long as the applied force is below the yield strength of mild steel then both parts will behave pretty much the same (since they have the same Young's modulus). > > A great place to use chrome-moly (4130) is on a part where you desire a high "safety factor". If you design a part with a safety factor of 3 then this means you can apply three times the peak operational load before the part will yield (before it will permanently deform). Thus a roll bar or a control arm would be a great place to use chrome-moly because these are components where you want a high safety factor. > > That's about it as I know it. I learned this stuff 10-12 years ago so others may be able to correct me on some points. > > Gustave > http://e30m3performance.com/ > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #344 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
