[uucdigest] Monday, February 28 2000 Volume 03 : Number 347 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] E30 + MAF Conversion = Big HP Gain?!!!! [uuc] What can I expect at Gateway Tech? RE: [uuc] <E30> Idle Control Valve [uuc] advice needed!!!!!!! [uuc] E36 stumbles at lights [uuc] How Sway Bars Fatigue. [uuc] E28> brake lamp indicator problem [uuc] E36 Stumbles At Light [uuc] Rotation of Mirrors [uuc] Re: E-30 Heater [uuc] <E36> Looking for wheels for '92 325is [uuc] Korman Open House Info, Dyno Sessions [uuc] Team Dynamics wheels Re: [uuc] Rotation of Mirrors [uuc] Bilstein Rebuild/Warranty Information [uuc] Great Tour Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:27:42 +0100 From: Eric Raquette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 + MAF Conversion = Big HP Gain?!!!! Hi, I think a MAP sensor should be even better. There are AFM emulators that generate an AFM signal to the Motronic from a MAP sensor. They are expensive but I think a small microprocessor with an A/D and D/A port and a simple program could be used.The electronics should not cost more than 10 dollars. If you get any more information that is not also on the digest I would like a copy. Regards Eric 525i-89 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:37:17 -0600 From: "Christopher J. Kolaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] What can I expect at Gateway Tech? Hi Ya'll, I've signed up for Gateway Tech. I am not exactly sure why I did so, with out any advanced information or event scheduling information. It seems to me, that there is not anything published on which, to make an informed decision. What takes place there? Who other then BMW CCA attendee's are there? What area's of technical or driving information is presented? In what type of format? What expectations should I have? What did you find the most interesting and the most valued of the Gateway Tech experience? TIA, Chris, Windy City Club 97 M3/4 daily driver 00 M5/4 driving it like a baby to break it in ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:35:26 -0500 From: "Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30> Idle Control Valve Yo David, You ask: <<Well, my ICV has finally gone kaput and it's time for a new one. Does anybody know if there's a place that sells rebuilt units? If there is, do they work well, or should I just shell out the $150 or so to get a new one.>> I just replaced mine recently. Ordered it from James Dean at The BMW Store in Cincinnati (800.543.1649). Cost is ~$94. Can't help with a rebuilt, I've never heard of anyone that sells them. You might be able to clean it enough to make it last a bit longer (that is unless it's totally gone)....I used brake cleaner to clean and then WD-40 to lube it up afterwords. It helped for about a month, then deterioration set in again. Another lube job gave about 2 more weeks then I finally replaced the damn thing. Mine wasn't exactly kaput but it was getting there. Tell James I sent you...doesn't do anything for me I just want him to know that I'm satisfied with the service. Others may offer additional sources. Have fun! Regards, Jack Money Motor City Chapter iX Registry '89 iX ----> Sharked! E30 M3 ----> Evolving mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or reply http://skumwerks.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:44:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Andreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] advice needed!!!!!!! I need advice about changing my 316 '86 ( shift) for 728 '83 (automatic). Key for key. My 316 is in perfect condition and as far as I saw 728, it looks great too. Is it good trade or this 728 is bad solution? Can anyone tell me the consumption of 728. Thanks, Ivo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:30:04 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Fennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 stumbles at lights Friend of mine has a '94 325i. 65k miles or so. Automatic. She reports that when she comes to a stop, the car will occaisionally stumble 2 or 3 times, almost stalling, then be back to normal. Happens cold or warm. No check engine light. The problem only started recently. Any thoughts? Thanks, Mike Fennell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:08:10 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] How Sway Bars Fatigue. Patrick: >From what I remember, fatigue is microcracking on the metal. Every metal has some >surface cracks - there is no such thing as perfect polish - that grow as the >bar/spring is cycled, eventually causing the bar to break. No quite a classical plastic deformation. Different mechanism. As for the sway bars seeing equal loading in both directions of twist, this is worse from a fatigue point of view than loading in one direction only. This is why there are technologies like cold expansion that basically treat - holes in metallic plates for example - so that there is some residual compression on them. That way, when tesile forces strike the metal sees a zero to max tension and back and no compression, reducing the cyclic nature of the loading. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC *** Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > 4130 is a spring steel, designed to flex and, of course, "spring" back. The > primary advantage of this material is that it does not fatigue over time > like mild steel. Many aftermarket suspension parts that are made from mild > steel stop feeling fresh after 1-2 years... springs sag and sway bars lose > their effectiveness. I understand how a coil spring (effectively a torsion spring seeing load in only one direction) of poor material and/or insufficient design for the application could lose free length (or length @ some load, if you prefer) as the metal fatigues and possibly deforms plastically, but I do not understand how the sway bars (straight(ish) torsion spring seeing more or less equal load reversals (unless you're an oval track racer ;)) could lose effectiveness unless they're breaking, or at least losing cross sectional area through some sort of plastic deformation due to excessive twisting. What am I missing? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:20:10 -0500 From: "Phemister, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E28> brake lamp indicator problem <<<<<<Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] So my '86 528e doesn't kill the check light when I step on the brake pedal after initially starting the car lately. Both taillight brake light bulbs are fine, as is the center high mount light.>>>>>>>>>> Check to make sure the bulbs are the correct replacement, and the grounds from the light units. George ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:55:35 -0500 From: "Henry Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Stumbles At Light <<Friend of mine has a '94 325i. 65k miles or so. Automatic. She reports that when she comes to a stop, the car will occaisionally stumble 2 or 3 times, almost stalling, then be back to normal. Happens cold or warm. No check engine light. The problem only started recently. Any thoughts?>> Thanks, Mike Fennell Mike, Sounds like this could be: 1) ignition coil going bad 2) O2 sensor 3) check air flow (air filter, ect.) Henry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:04:50 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Rotation of Mirrors >The feature IS capable of being disabled by the driver at their >convenience. Perhaps Duane doesn't realize that fact. Yep ! Thanks to ya'll I was able to disable this 'feature' by simply pushing the mirror selector switch over the the right. Heck, I just discovered two days ago that there's a remote trunk release down by the foot-operated Emergency Brake. TOO MANY GIZMOS!!! - - Duane The Sled P.S. And give me that old 1990's vintage E34 climate control system with the rotary knobs anyday over this silly "automatic" system I have in this car. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:03:23 -0500 From: Ken Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: E-30 Heater <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>Re: E-30 Heater</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">You didn't say if you thoroughly bleed = the heater system after you changed the heater valve. You could = have air trapped in your heater core. That would explain why no = heat. Sounds could be caused by the water turning to = steam as it reaches the heater. Bleeding instructions should be = in you Bentleys or email me.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ken Juul </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">87 325ic</FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:12:57 -0800 From: "Frick, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E36> Looking for wheels for '92 325is Hi All, I sending this out on behalf of my son who is looking for a set of wheels in excellent condition with/without tires. He has some wheel styles and makes in mind, but I'm not in a position to sort out the details. If you have any for sale, please provide as much information as possible including any web pictorial references to same wheels i.e. Tire Rack, etc. Thanks, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:25:39 -0500 From: Allen Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Korman Open House Info, Dyno Sessions Greetings; Steve's post reminded me it was time to get a few more details out about this year's event. Korman 20th Annual Open House Saturday, March 4th 2000 Doors open at 10am, most arrive a bit earlier to check out other attendees cars. Admission is $7.00, includes lunch and raffle ticket. Kids under 12 in free, we will have an area set aside for them with some activities to keep them entertained (but it's not day care....) Cars: Stella M1 Art Car and Grp. 5 M1 (as usual). The Stella car has been donated to the Guggenheim Museum in NY but should be here in our facility on a regular basis as we are it's custodians. Ray picked up what is *supposedly* his old 2002 race car from Arthur Porter (Rocky Mtn. Motorsport) over the weekend, it will be on display as well. I haven't made it out to the shop yet to check it out. We'll be sorting it out in expectation of Ray doing some vintage events this year. An M coupe painted in that I-change-colors-as-you-look-at-me-Jeff-Gordon-like-color. What else, let's see, M6 Stroker, half a dozen 2002 restorations, 325ITS car (might be 4 sale?), standard array of other race cars and "interesting" BMW's, and of course, what the attendees bring. In addition to door prizes from Red Line, Bilstein, H&R, Ferodo and so on, looks like we're going to be able to give away (2) driver's school passes and (2) lapping day passes to a nearby track. Autothority will be here with a few goodies to distribute, there will be BMW's for sale. Of course we'll have the German Luncheon, German band w/alphorn, etc. Also plan to learn about NASA's expansion into the southeast. If you have any BMW friends out west you've heard of NASA, now coming to a track near you. Now, as for the dyno sessions. We have some cars already scheduled to do runs (don't worry, they'll be interesting). We will also have slots available for attendees. SO... If you want to dyno your car, email me a note describing your car and it's modifications. We will sit down and pick out a cross-section of submissions in an effort to get a good sampling. We will determine participants in advance to help with scheduling, I will post this list to the digest. Now, to make it interesting, also include the horsepower you THINK you have or have been TOLD you have with the given parts you've installed. List the claimed increase for each modification and the total increase. I'll come up with some special prizes for the person who gets the closest and the person who misses the mark by the most. Hope to see as many of you as possible Saturday, remember to email or phone in reservations so we'll be sure to have plenty of food. Regards, Allen Patterson Korman Autoworks, Inc. http://www.kormanfastbmw.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:44:02 -0500 From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Team Dynamics wheels Hello everyone, I'm interested in purchasing 17x7 Team Dynamics Monza wheels. I couldn't find the weights on their website. Does anyone have these wheels or know the weight of them? Also Where is the best place to purchase them from? TIA Larry 97 318i Mech. Designer/Draftsman Synthes Spine ************************************************************************* The opinions and statements expressed above are mine, and do not reflect that of my employer. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:45:03 -0500 (EST) From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Rotation of Mirrors Duane Collie writes: > P.S. And give me that old 1990's vintage E34 climate control system > with the rotary knobs anyday over this silly "automatic" system I > have in this car. Hear hear. - -- Just Moe '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS BMWCCA Peachtree Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:53:26 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Bilstein Rebuild/Warranty Information Gerry: OE shocks are not warranted by Bilstein. You have to go to the manufacturer for those. I would imagine you will end up replacing them with new. Eurasian does have the lowest prices I've found. Don't know anything about rebuilds. I think you have to go at least in pairs (handling concerns) to replace them so you'd have to get at least two. However, I drove with one replaced long-distance only for about 5k miles and it was OK. So, you could do this temporarily if you wanted to for some reason (only had time to change one each week, for example). The Bilstein WWW site has good information on the warranty. You need to have proof of purchase, the receipts, etc. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC *** My understanding is that Bilsteins have a lifetime warranty, but is that just for replacement parts? The one that seems to have failed is the OE unit, as far as I can tell. Also -- I've read of Bilstein's rebuild program, but I'm wondering what the cost savings might be over purchasing a new replacement unit (i.e. Eurasian's got HDs in their 'Roundel' ad for $94F/$82R). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:00:24 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Great Tour Story Small World: A guy comes to my house Saturday to pick up his daughter from a 4-H meeting being held by my daughter and wife. He sees the GGC BMW CCA decals on my car's windows and proceeds to introduce himself as a former chapter president. Jack was active with the GGC in the early '80s (right before I joined), but then he defected to the Porsche club. Here was his best story: For about 15 years he has been organizing the local Porsche club's annual Yosemite tour (over 100 cars!). His daughter has grown too big to stuff into the back "seat" of the 911, so they took his wife's E30 318is. Some guy with a 911 says, "So we're gonna have to drive all the way to Yosemite behind that piece of (crap) 4 cylider box on wheels?" Well, Jack and family lead them out of Morgan Hill on some back roads at about 100 MPH. Around Fresno they stop to rest and regroup, and the same guy asks, "Are you gonna keep driving that fast?" Jack says, "No, there's more traffic and turns from here, so we'll be going slower". The guy says, "Good, because my wife was getting car sick while we tried to keep up with you." Of course, Jack asks, "Hey, aren't you the guy who complained about having to follow a 'piece of (crap) 4 cylider box on wheels?'" I had to share that story with y'all. Moral: It really is the driver more than the car! Have a nice week, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #347 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
