[uucdigest] Sunday, March 5 2000 Volume 03 : Number 391 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: Wheel Paint [uuc] Re: New 3.0 motor [uuc] FS Garage Sale - Mostly Zymol Items [uuc] WANTED E36/M3 PARTS [uuc] For you Q tippers... [uuc] Re: new inline 6s [uuc] <WOB> Oil, Oil, Oil [uuc] SOLO II /E30 M3 [uuc] E30 rear sway bar link [uuc] CD Changers [uuc] Rear Panels on E36 [uuc] [e36] Driver side window won't go down!! [uuc] DentFest Pictures... [uuc] Set of RD Sport RGQ Wheels for Sale - Cheap Re: [uuc] <E30> Fuel Injector Removal [uuc] E30 ///M3 Gathering ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:05:17 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Wheel Paint Almost all BMW wheels are finished in Polaris Metallic, which is BMW paint code 060. There are exceptions, though. Some optional European wheels were Nogaro Silber Metallic -- such as the 16" units on the E30 M3 Evolution cars. And of course the new E39 M5 wheels have their own unique hue. While any competent auto paint store should be able to mix up Polaris with reasonable accuracy, I've seen more screw-ups on this color than anything else, for some reason. I'd say that if you can find a store that mixes Glasurit paints, which are often used by BMW, you'll probably be fine. The posters who mentioned Wurth wheel paint are absolutely correct, in my experience, and this is probably the easiest way to go. We used to be able to get Polaris Metallic in spray cans from BMW, but for the most part the factory has gotten out of the paint business in the US due to bureacratic regulations. I've repainted many BMW alloys with the factory spray cans (the used to have clear, too) and the results were excellent. Since the spray cans went NLA, I've started using the Wurth products. All Wurth products are outstanding, in my opinion. Both the BMW spray cans and the Wurth paint are polyurethane enamels, with lots of isosianates. This is nasty stuff, and anyone spraying it would do well to buy themselves a good filter mask. Mike Miller ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:06:45 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: New 3.0 motor In a message dated 3/4/00 7:14:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So, is the new 3.0 l 6 still an M52? No, the new engine is designated M54. Stephen '96 328ti Sport '99 R1200C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:16:27 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] FS Garage Sale - Mostly Zymol Items GARAGE SALE Greetings all: I am getting ready to move and have the found the additional following items for my garage sale: (2) Zymol Introductory kits with Carbon Wax. New $20.00 each (4) Zymol Auto Bathe, 8 oz's New $5.00 each (1) Zymol Field Glaze New $10.00 (2) Zymol Acrylic Wax New $12.00 each (1) BMW CD changer installation brackets for E34 BMW (Pioneer unit) New make offer. (1) BMW CD Changer installation kit for all E36 2 and 4 Doors with cover New $40.00 (1) BMW CD Changer installation kit for all E36 2 and 4 Doors with no cover New $15.00 Contact Steve Diamond 303-588-9600 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:32:41 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] WANTED E36/M3 PARTS I'd like to find the LTW rear spoiler (I believe it is four pieces?) I'd also like to find the front splitter that is (also) found on the LTW M3....Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:08:47 EST From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Peder Andersen) Subject: [uuc] For you Q tippers... Just tried my Griot's window cleaner with their "lint free" towels. It is the best stuff I've ever used to get interior/exterior of my Bimmer's windows clean. Unbelieveable. Much better than Windex, and better than PS21 window wipes. Also tried out the detailer/spritzer, with their cotton towels. (yeah, okay, two Christmas presents..) Results are good, though I don't know if it's any better than the Meguiar's I've used. Usual disclaimers. Pete '00 M Coupe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:17:36 -0800 From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: new inline 6s The new sixes are part of the M54/S54 family. Initially, there will be 2.5/B25 and 3.0/B30 versions (plus the S54/B32 for the M3). There are rumors that the models which have 2.0/2.5 engines will eventually get 2.3/2.7 liter versions respectively, in the future. I've seen conflicting reports as to whether the M54 is an all-new design, or a further evolution of the M50/M52. I suspect the latter, with refinements (like roller rocker arms in the valvetrain) to modernize the emissions and fuel efficiency characteristics, as is the aim with most new engines nowadays. With regard to power outputs, I won't hazard a guess. Enough people have done so already, with the consensus 22x bhp for the 3.0 and 170-200 bhp for the 2.5, depending on how forthcoming BMW is about true hp figures. As always, buyers of early production output beware. Herman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:19:53 -0500 From: "Osterbrink, Mark (AFS-Warren)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WOB> Oil, Oil, Oil Why the big focus on oil temperature in engine warm up? I always thought that the purpose of the warm up is to ensure that the engine components are at the designed stage of thermal expansion, and that it's the coolant's job to keep them at that temperature once they reach it. I also thought that the oil's job was to lubricate the bearings, cams, and cylinders. Any temperature management of the oil was to ensure that it didn't overheat. Is there something I'm missing on watching the oil temperature? It seems to me that the oil is a very poor indicator of the engine condition, as it doesn't have much contact with the hot parts of the engine, and has poor thermal conductivity compared to the coolant. As long as it's warm enough to flow properly, it should be fine, no? And for you slackers who only change your oil every 3,000 miles, this is the oil change procedure I got from a guy who works in a department that hand assembles engines at a German manufacturer: Warm engine Drain oil Fill with new oil Run engine until oil is warm Drain oil Install new filter Final fill with new oil Gotta flush out that system, ya know (that should keep everyone more anal than me up all night, wondering if they've destroyed their engine with negligence). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 18:22:21 -0600 From: David Yando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] SOLO II /E30 M3 > > Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 05:17:05 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] e30 M3 upgrades for Solo2 > > I am having a major amount of work done on my M3 in the next few weeks and > need a little help with what is and is not allowable modifications for Solo2 > AutoX. > > If someone can, could they please tell me what I can and cannot upgrade as > far as suspension, intake, exhaust, brakes etc. and still stay in the AS > class. As of right now the car is set up as stock. > > Also, if I do make modifications that bump me up to another class... I've > heard that the next class up is a much more competative class for the E30 > M3.. i.e. the car is a closer match with the competion after the > modifications. If this is true, then what modifications should I make to > boost up to the next class level. > > I'd also like some suggestions/recommendations on brands for strut braces, > brake pads and exhaust. > > I'm not a member of the M3 sig yet but plan on joining soon... until then any > and all help from this uuc is very much appreciated. > > Thank you. > - - Ezra > 1988 E30 M3 Hi Ezra, Just returned from my 1st (with this particular car) autocross of the season. The SCCA rulebook is thick but cheap. There is almost no way that an e-mail will give a complete and comprehensive answer, so spend the $10 bucks. If it's not in the rulebook, they didn't forget it, it's just not allowed. As far as classification goes - our cars are in A stock, along with E36 M3s and other worthy competitors. Bump up to CSP and you'll get your clock cleaned on a regular basis by Civic Sis, SE-Rs, and others. There is a world of experience to be gained by learning your car under stock configuration - it was built to be a race car, after all. Autocross is not its best showing, but it's pretty damn fun! Stock does not mean stock, BTW, you are pretty free with shocks, brake pads, cat-back exhaust, low restriction air filter, and best of all you can run R-compound tires. But first, learn how to drive - get some seat time, ride with others and get them to ride with you. Spend your money on getting experience - the car has capabilities you probably have not begun to tap. Not putting you down in any way, just hate to see someone pour money into a car that is already so capable before learning how to use it. I am having to re-learn all over again, as my last car, an '02, had no power, no limited slip diff, etc., but it was a great tool in how to use momentum and general technique. David Yando '74 2002 FSP "Underdog" (40+ event veteran) '90 M3 AS "Buzz Bomb" (1st timer!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:52:23 -0500 From: "Smethers, Jeffrey D (Jeffrey)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 rear sway bar link Digesters, I pulled the left rear wheel off of my 'ix this afternoon in an effort to determine why I was hearing strange suspension noises only to discover that the sway bar is not connected to the link that runs to the trailing arm. I raised the trailing arm with a jack but the angle wasn't correct to pop the sway bar into the link. What am I doing wrong here ? It doesn't look as if I need to remove the spring although it would make things much easier for clearance. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Jeffrey Smethers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '74 2002tii '88 325ix ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:54:39 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] CD Changers > I'm curious about CD changers. Is there anywhere I can purchase one without > paying dealer price. I found a site, but I'm uncertain as to which one to > purchase. I have a 99 328is. Do I get Alpine or Pioneer? Thanks for any > advice given. Won't work....BMW is one step ahead of you already. What they do is use a proprietary BMW-only wiring harness to the CD unit. So you can buy the exact same Alpine or Pioneer unit that has the BMW logo on it, but when you go to hook it up the plugs won't fit the pre-wires. PITA. So then your choices are to rewire the plugs (nightmare) or to run a new set of wires to the head unit (even worse nightmare). Better to catch a used one for your car here on the Digest. However, you CAN buy extra CD magazines for the BMW units that are standard Alpine or Pioneer units and they'll work fine at half the dealer price for the BMW magazines. - - Duane Collie The Seven Sled ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:04:43 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Rear Panels on E36 >The dent is about 2 inches below the rear window and mostly below the crease >but there is a small amount of dent just above the crease. When the interior >panels are taken off in the back seat, is there open area to work the dent >out? Can anyone tell me the proper way to take the interior panels out of the >rear? Are they just fastened with those plastic pieces where you simply pop >them out or are they tricky to remove? The Rear Panels are a bit of a pain to get out on an E36, and difficult to re-align again. There's room to work that damaged area when you get them out, but let the body shop guys do it. One reason is because of the outboard seat buckle which has to come off....this requires a 16mm socket and is very hard to get to. I could only get access to it with a 'wobble extension', and then getting it reinstalled without cross-threading is a black art. The panel itself (going from memory, been a while) requires you pull off the weatherstripping on the edge, raise it up over the window lip, and then work off the plastic clips without tearing them out of breaking them (GOOD LUCK). If the dent is in the beltline crease, you're SOL for a Dentmaster type of fix. Traditional body shop fix is to pull the dent, fill/sand/repaint.....about a $ 350 repair but all done from the outside. - - Duane Collie The Seven Sled ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:08:05 -0800 From: "Ahmad S. Hamzawi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [e36] Driver side window won't go down!! Hi all, my driver's side window in my 94 325ic won't go down at all. I took it to get diagnosed and they think it's the switch. How can I test the switch? I looked under the panel below the steering wheel and didn't see any comfort relay or anything of the sort. Do I just pop out the switch itself and try the passenger one and see what happens or am I actually looking for some special relay? Because of this, the window stays a crack open when I close the door since the window doesn't move at all - really annoying. Any advice? Regards - -------------------- Ahmad Hamzawi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:22:27 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] DentFest Pictures... I finally got around to renaming them and shrinking them. If you want high res pics of the pictures, e-mail me. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Boulevard/3287/DentFest The filename contains the description of the pic. Unfortunately, I didn't realize that the default IE directory listing cuts off long filename to a short name. If you click it and view the pic, you will see the full filename in the URL. Sorry. Maybe when I get around to creating an html page for it ;) Enjoy, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:49:51 -0500 From: "Jonathan Farber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Set of RD Sport RGQ Wheels for Sale - Cheap I have a set of 5 17x8 inch RD Sport RCQ wheels I would like to sell. 3 of the wheels are mounted with Bridgestone S-02's (235/45/17) with about 6,000 miles on them, and a fourth has an S-02 with about 500 miles on it. 2, possibly three of the rims are slightly bent, but according to my local dealership are definitely repairable - I just don't have the time to deal with the hassle factor. I know they will fit E34's and I believe they will fit other BMWs with appropriate hardware. Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 203-293-2752 Prefer local buyers (I'm in Fairfield County, CT) so I don't have to ship. $1,000 OBO ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:54:19 -0500 From: "The Hall Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Fuel Injector Removal Pat, Thanks. The penetrating oil helped, and the re-assurance that I could get them back on without a sledgehammer helped even more. It amazes me how such fragile components have to be man-handled. - -Dave Hall - ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "The Hall Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Fuel Injector Removal > Ah, such fond recollections. You'll need to pull pretty hard but they do > pull out after that clip is removed. Try putting some penetrating oil on > them for a while. I ended up putting the rail down onto some bricks and > putting my foot on it to pull. They'll go back together quite nicely if you > dip the O-rings into regular motor oil on assembly. > > Geeeze > '95 Honda ST1100A for sale - $8000 > '84 Chevy K10 Suburban turbo diesel for sale - $5000 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Hall Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > In an effort to eliminate a rough idle, I'm replacing the o-ring seals on > > the fuel injectors. I've gotten the electrical connection off and the > > injectors out of the cylinder head. I removed the metal retaining clip > > securing the injector to the fuel rail, but I cannot get the injector of > the > > "boot" on the rail. I can even twist it 360 degrees, but it won't come > off > > the rail. Any suggestions? How hard should I have to tug? The car is an > > 89 325is. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 19:54:02 -0800 From: Sam Nakawatase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 ///M3 Gathering The BMW CCA Los Angeles Chapter E30M3 Group will be holding our second get together celebration of this great car in conjunction with the BMW CCA Los Angeles Chapter Picnic and Clean car Contest to be held on Sunday, April 30 at the Huntington Beach Central Park, Huntington Beach, CA. We will have a special designated "E30M3 Corral" in which to park our cars and this is a great opportunity for you to get together with other E30M3 owners and enthusiasts to share ideas and learn what others have done to their cars to make them "special and unique"! If you wish to enter the Clean Car Contest, it is highly recommended that you pre-register for the event. The cost is $25.00 per entry. If you wish to to come just for the Display only, it is also highly recommended that you also pre-register and the cost is $10.00! Part of the fun for this event is the Charity Auction in which donated gifts from area BMW Dealers and individuals are auctioned off with all of the proceeds donated to charity! Get your pocketbooks ready as, in the past, we've had some very nifty BMW related items auctioned off at a fraction of their original cost!! Application forms are printed in the current issue of the LA Chapter's "Whispering Bomb" or you can request one by sending an E-mail with your name and address to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Boen) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Nakawatase) and we will be happy to put one in the mail for you! Bring your picnic lunch, your comfy lawn chair, your family and your friends and be prepared for a day of great fun and fellowship with your fellow E30M3 enthusiasts as well as see other various BMW models in all its great splendor of cleanliness!! Can it get better than this? Sam LA BMW CCA 89 E30 ///M3 95 E36 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #391 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
