[uucdigest] Sunday, March 12 2000 Volume 03 : Number 425 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Other BMW-based Lists Re: [uuc] 2001 M3 Re: [uuc] <M20B25> Pinging/knocking Re: [uuc] FS: E32 Wheels [uuc] Re: vibration damper [uuc] Re: Engine Miss 84 318i M10 BA Re: [uuc] <M20B25> Pinging/knocking + more [uuc] Random Orbital "Buffer" [uuc] Re:2001 M3 and '95 prices [uuc] Book Report. BMW by Hartmut Lehbrink [uuc] The Trick on brakes Re: [uuc] The Trick on brakes [uuc] <E30> oil weight, thanks everyone RE: [uuc] Book Report wanted... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:27:37 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Other BMW-based Lists I've been getting some inquiries for the other, smaller lists that may be of interest to some of ya'll Car Geeks. Here's the addresses again: http://www.onelist.com/group/TheUUCGarage (Mostly irrelevant, bantering list full of bimwads. Every topic is fair game. Not for the faint of heart, prudes, politically correct, or whiners. We won't get mad if you're one of those, we just laugh at you. Current topics (besides cars) are lawn tractors and satellite dishes.) http://www.onelist.com/group/BMWCCAtalk (A serious topic list that discussing the CCA (BMW Car Club of America) and its issues. Turning out to have some real good discussions on the WHY's and HOW's of the workings of the CCA. Highly recommended if you want to see some of the inner workings of our Car Club or air an issue.) Both lists are open to all. - - Duane Collie The Seven Sled ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:47:47 -0400 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 2001 M3 At 10:55 AM -0500 3/12/2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >do you think that prices on say 95 m3's will drop slightly once the next >generation m3 arrives? E36 M3s are already hitting the for sale market as owners' leases expire. I would think the used car price would drop as people trade their E36 for an E46. I also think supply in demand will dictate the price. E30 M3s seem to be fetching more money as the become harder to find. Supply in demand in action. ...steven mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://318ti.org Germantown, MD ---> Dealer Service comments http://www.servicecounts.net 1998 318ti Arrest Me Red Sport 'FUN2DRV' National Capital Chapta w/ open air roof, armrest, pealing lower lip, rear spoiler, Z3 spiral antenna vented front rotors, kevlar ss brakelines, xbrace, braless, paint chips Z3 1.9 shift lever w/ lighted knob and euro-intermittent wiper module My memory is so bad that I get lost on a skid pad. (c) 1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:43:14 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <M20B25> Pinging/knocking If the engine has been running fine, and only recently started pinging, there could be a buildup of deposits in the combustion chamber. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Everyone, > > I seem to be experiencing some pinging under full throttle in 3rd gear only > upwards of 5.5k. The plugs are sorta old...~20k. Since I have a JimC chip > I always burn premium fuel (min 93 octane). The motor burns a little oil, > maybe 1qt/3k miles....sometimes a bit more sometimes a bit less. I've > checked for air leaks...can't find any. What might cause this? I'm gonna > inspect the plugs shortly here but I wanted to gain some collective wisdom > from the group. > > What causes pinging/knocking? My thoughts are: > > 1. Low octane gas > 2. Burning oil (a fair amount) > 3. Air leaks > 4. Bad plugs/improper gapping > 5. ????? > > I'd like to learn a thing or two here so I'm hoping to hear from some of you > expert types. Please help! Thanks very much. > > Good work for Ralph Schumacher and Jenson Button...very respectable finishes > in the Austrailian GP. > > Regards, > > Jack Money > Motor City Chapter > iX Registry > '89iX ----> Sharked! > E30 ///MPower ----> Evolving > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://skumwerks.net > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:47:48 -0500 From: "Peter Sterne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] FS: E32 Wheels Wait a minute, you're thanking me? You sell me a set of practically new wheels for a song, deliver them an hour or so from your home, and buy me a cup of coffee ... and you're thanking me? I can't believe it! I'd like to thank you for the great deal, the stories and the cup of coffee. I concur that this congenial spirit is what make the uucdigest a community, not just an e-mail forum. Regards, Peter Sterne '93 325is '91 Miata SE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have three 16" E32 7 Series wheels for sale, in very good condition. These > are just the regular ol' factory alloys off an early 740i. No centers. $35 > each, buyer pays all shipping charges, but I'll meet you within a reasonable > distance. I'm in Taylor, PA. > > This morning, I met a UUC'er from CT in Matamoras, PA for breakfast and a > smooth parts sale. It was great; the kind of camaraderie BMW CCA and this > Digest is all about. > Thanks again, Peter! > > Mike Miller ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:28:53 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: vibration damper Throw it away. Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] vibration damper > > Attempting to swap out flex disk and tranny shaft seals on 86 528e. > Vibration damper appears ruined, rubber is sheared off. > I have heard it is not necessayr and not to replace it, is this true?? > Advice would be welcome as it will save me $150. > Bobby > Folsom CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:32:09 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Engine Miss 84 318i M10 BA Did the problem start with the radiator job, or the plug/cap/wires job? Sounds like the plug wires might be mixed up. Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Engine Miss > > I've got an '84 318i that has me stumped. I'm sure this is coincidental but I > pulled my radiator to have it rebuilt and once I put everything back together > it runs extremely poor with a very noticable miss at all RPM ranges. Plugs, > rotor and cap were all replaced. Any suggestions? > > Thanks. > Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:03:39 -0500 From: "Jack Money" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <M20B25> Pinging/knocking + more Earlier I wrote: > Everyone, > > I seem to be experiencing some pinging under full throttle in 3rd gear only > upwards of 5.5k. The plugs are sorta old...~20k. Since I have a JimC chip > I always burn premium fuel (min 93 octane). The motor burns a little oil, > maybe 1qt/3k miles....sometimes a bit more sometimes a bit less. I've > checked for air leaks...can't find any. What might cause this? I'm gonna > inspect the plugs shortly here but I wanted to gain some collective wisdom > from the group. > > What causes pinging/knocking? My thoughts are: > > 1. Low octane gas > 2. Burning oil (a fair amount) > 3. Air leaks > 4. Bad plugs/improper gapping > 5. ????? > > I'd like to learn a thing or two here so I'm hoping to hear from some of you > expert types. Please help! Thanks very much. Well, I pulled the 1st 2 plugs (closest to the fan) to check'em out...turns out there's a bunch of oil sitting in the plug chamber (at the base of the plugs)...the plugs themselves are definately done. They're coated with a whiteish powdery type substance, althought when I tried to wipe it off it seems to be a rather hard particulate. The electrodes also are warn quite a bit. Time for new plugs....it seems they've been in for 25k+. The thing that concerns me most is the oil build up. Could a leaking cam seal cause this? What about a valve cover gasket? I changed my VC gasket twice and cannot get it to seal properly. I followed all the torque specs in the Bentley, I cleaned the surfaces very well, and I inspected the gasket for quality (visual only of course). Anyone else have VC replacement problems? I have another one and will give it another try but I'd really rather not do it again soon. Does this motor have head gasket problems? I have a leak which appears to be oil seeping from the head/block interface. It isn't pouring out by any means but it is getting bigger. I thought it might be the cam seal or the VC but I'm not so sure. I will be checking my cam seal this week as I suspect it's leaking. If it isn't maybe there'll be a clue. Anyone have any ideas? I need some expertise here...Brett? Anyone else? Thanks for any help! Regards, Jack Money Motor City Chapter iX Registry '89iX ----> Sharked! Weeping E30 ///MPower ----> Evolving [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://skumwerks.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:21:46 -0800 From: Polands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Random Orbital "Buffer" Christian: I have used both a. 49.95 Wen random orbital buffer, and b. a real Delta 5" random orbit sander with a foam buffing pad. result with a. is about as good as you can do by hand. Result with b. is terrific. Its essentially the same setup that Meguiars is selling in their super kit, which includes a Porter Cable random orbit motor. Don't waste your money on the 49.95 cheapo unit. As for removing old swirl marks, I thing that is more determined by exactly what product you are using. I'm sure others will fill in on that. Steve Poland '88 535is Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:04:28 -0500 From: Christian Bernhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Random Orbital "Buffer" Does anyone on the digest have any experience with using a random orbital "polishing machine?" I'm considering ordering this since the random action should, in principle, eliminate the swirl marks that can come with power buffers. If this actually works without harming the finish, it just might be worth the $$$. Private replies are OK. Thks, Chris Bernhardt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:35:44 -0500 From: Eric Carnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re:2001 M3 and '95 prices Ed wrote: do you think that prices on say 95 M3's will drop slightly once the next generation m3 arrives? thanks, ed 95 318ti Hi Ed, Good question. I noticed a fall in E34 M5 prices after the E39 M5 came out. This was simple supply and demand. The M5 is a relatively rare car and when all the M5 fanatics bought the new E39, they started selling off the E34 and the price dropped. However, the E36 M3 pricing is not driven so much by a short supply since it is not a rare car, hence depreciation should continue at the same rate. However, if the new M3 comes out and costs more than $50k, looks too much like a "boy racer" or if it gets panned by Roundel as being too "soft" and too heavy, many people may decide to hold on to their E36 M3, keeping prices higher. - --Eric Carnell, National Capital Chapter '99 M3 '95 540iA '91 M5 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:54:06 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Book Report. BMW by Hartmut Lehbrink Bill: I bought the book for $35 at Half Price books and have since seen it similarly discounted at B. Dalton, etc. Call these guys and you'll probably find it. The book mainly has some excellent photos of pretty much every kind of BMW up to the E39 M5. The X5 is in there too. For that price I recommend it. It is a coffee table book with text in three languages that is accurate and too the point without too much tech. detail. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC *** Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:04:36 -0000 From: "BMW Bits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Book Report wanted... Anyone got a copy of a book entitled BMW by Schlegelmilch & Lehbrink (Konemann Publishing ) ?/ What's your opinion ? Is it avail in US ? How much ? Sounds as if it might be a 'coffee table ' book ??? Also ...Anyone have experience with Books by Mercian Manuals in UK ? They put out a 'handbook' on BMW 3-series (316/18/20/23i ) but I can find NO content description anywhere.....It's rather 'spendy' if it doesnt have much tech info in it ....Opinions anyone ?? Offline replies pls to save WOB Bill Proud in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:26:50 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] The Trick on brakes >Subject: [uuc] <E36M3> Brake work question > >Is there a trick to removing the front brake calipers? I was in the process >of upgrading the front rotors to the floating type, but couldn't get the two >caliper mounting bolts off. The torque > spec on these is 81 ft-lb, so they should be tight, but not like this... Yep. The trick is to have a 1/2" breaker bar with the appropriate socket, which on the M3 is 18mm as I recall (may be 16mm), also 1/2" drive. Then you have at it. You don't actually think they use a torque wrench to go to 81 ft-lb at the assembley line, do ya? <g> - - Duane Collie The Seven Sled, but a veteran of M3 brake swaps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:55:07 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] The Trick on brakes I fully expect the assembly guys to use a torque wrench on brake attachments. In fact, these days, they should use wrenches that are air powered and compare torque and turns to check the joint better than a mere torque wrench can. The tools should be checked for torque at least once per shift. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You don't actually think they use a torque wrench to go to 81 ft-lb at the > assembley line, do ya? <g> > > - Duane Collie > The Seven Sled, but a veteran of M3 brake swaps > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:08:12 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E30> oil weight, thanks everyone Dear Digesters, Just want to post a note of thanks to Mike, Don, Brandon, John and Dana for their responses to my oil weight question. Sounds like I'll be okay with 15-40 until the summer, when I'll switch to 20-50. Thanks again, Michael Su 1991 325ic ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:36:01 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Book Report wanted... I bought this book in London (Harrods). Definitely coffee table material, but I like the book. It is pretty current with information on the Z3 and X5. I don't recall what I paid, but it was very reasonable. It is not all inclusive - there is nothing on the e28. It has good history of BMW, starting with a "Wartburg Motorwagen" from 1898. Photography is good. It touches on racing, M cars, etc. I like it. Karl Zemlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] BMWCCA 82366 Indianapolis > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of BMW Bits > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 3:05 PM > To: Uucdigest; S6R S6R; Senior Six Digest; E9coupes BMW; E21 Digest; > Coupe Group > Subject: [uuc] Book Report wanted... > > > Anyone got a copy of a book entitled BMW by Schlegelmilch & Lehbrink > (Konemann Publishing ) ?/ What's your opinion ? Is it avail in US > ? How much > ? Sounds as if it might be a 'coffee table ' book ??? > > Also ...Anyone have experience with Books by Mercian Manuals in UK ? They > put out a 'handbook' on BMW 3-series (316/18/20/23i ) but I can find NO > content description anywhere.....It's rather 'spendy' if it > doesnt have much > tech info in it ....Opinions anyone ?? > > Offline replies pls to save WOB > > Bill Proud in Seattle > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #425 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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