[uucdigest]           Friday, March 10 2000           Volume 03 : Number 416



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Re: [uuc] B�ser blick
       [uuc] <MISC> Kent Moore's Been Fired
       [uuc] <WOB> sigh
       [uuc] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Buuc=5D_Re=3A_=5Buuc=5D_B=F6ser_blick?=
       [uuc] Tire Rack
       [uuc] Re: GGCCA Autocross
       Re: [uuc] B�ser blick
       Re: [uuc] =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6ser?= blick
       [uuc] Foglights
       Re: [uuc] <WOB> sigh
       [uuc] Re: Fog Lights Negative Press
       [uuc] Re: Audi test drive
       [uuc] More fog lights
       Re: [uuc] Re: Fog Lights Negative Press
       [uuc] (e28) Fuel Leak

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:13:36 -0500
From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uuc] B�ser blick

I agree with Jim.  Many people think that they look cool driving around with
their fog lights.  SUVs are not the only problem here, but Grand Ams, Grand
Prixs, Saturns, and many other smaller vehicles have them on all the time.
Some of my neighbors have their fog lights set up to come on whenever they
turn their lights on (no matter what the type of road or weather
conditions).

In this case, Poseur equals butthead.

Dean

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:14:59 -0800 (PST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis A. Ingraham)
Subject: [uuc] <MISC> Kent Moore's Been Fired

In UUC Digest v03.n408 Larry Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ... Kent Moore's Been Fired
>
> BMW Parts CD, Trouble Shooting Manuals, Technical Bulletins, Special 
> Tools, etc. are now being distributed by the Central Letter Shop at 
> 1-800-695-0079.
> 
> A complete list of available items can be found at:
> 
> www.fedworld.gov/cleanair/search.htm
> 
> search for BMW (+CD or +bulletin or +tool, etc.).
> 
> Why their parts list is on the EPA site I haven't a clue, but it's
> apparently the only location on the web at the moment. This is not a very
> user friendly site or search engine. They have promised to snail mail me a
> copy of available items, so we could scan and post them somewhere. Total of
> 21 pages.

Thanks for the scoop, Larry.

Switching from one inept vendor to another would be the perfect way 
to maintain the de facto unavailability of the BMW material.

But I'm not suggesting that was the motivation.

Curt Ingraham
72 2002tii
Oakland, California

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:34:15 -0500
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <WOB> sigh

Okay.  Spring is in the air, stupid threads are rearing their ugly heads
again.  If you people are really intent on fighting why don't you buy your
copies of that Billy Blanks video and your little kickbox dummy and have at.
I promise it'll hardly ever kick your butt.

Please leave the
Ithrashedanewcarandturnedonthefoglightswhilelisteningtomusicyoudon'tlikeandd
rivingfastacrossschoolyardswiththecopschasingandgotaticketIdon'tdeservebecau
semytires/wheels/brakes/Mbadgeisbetterthanyours
threads alone.

Geeeze

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:44:05 -0500
From: "Binder, Larry - Paoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Buuc=5D_Re=3A_=5Buuc=5D_B=F6ser_blick?=

I believe that I've asked this question before, but would someone please
tell me the real reason why all of you guys are so upset about people
driving with their foglights on!?  I can't possibly see how lights on a car
can distract you so much or be so annoying.  As far as I'm concerned
foglights, that are aimed correctly, only enhance my ability to see the road
and make it easier for other drivers to see me coming. What is the big deal?

Larry
97 318i

Mech Designer/Draftsman
Synthes Spine

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Boucouras [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 1:14 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [uuc] Re: [uuc] B�ser blick
> 
> I agree with Jim.  Many people think that they look cool driving around
> with
> their fog lights.  SUVs are not the only problem here, but Grand Ams,
> Grand
> Prixs, Saturns, and many other smaller vehicles have them on all the time.
> Some of my neighbors have their fog lights set up to come on whenever they
> turn their lights on (no matter what the type of road or weather
> conditions).
> 
> In this case, Poseur equals butthead.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:49:06 -0800
From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Tire Rack

I just thought that I would offer my support of the Tire Rack. 
Yesterday, four nice Mille Miglia 17x9 wheels arrived with 245/45 Kumhos
mounted and balanced and heat cycled. The package included new lug
bolts.  All of this for $1598.  So I'm all set for the GGC autox next
weekend.  The gooey tires did bump me up to 'AA' class however. 

This should be a great weekend down Monterey way.  The GGC is holding a
Car Control Clinic on Saturday, and the Autocross is Sunday.  I am in
hopes to see a bunch of my students from Saturday participating in the
autox the next day.  

For those of you that have registered but not sent in your check, be
advised that I will need to RECEIVE your check by not later than next
Wednesday.  I will be finishing the administrative tasks on Thurs. as
well as preparing both cars for the weekend. I will not have time to do
any further registrations past Wednesday.

Steve Albrecht
Golden Gate Chapter
'00 540i/6
'95 540iA

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:48:58 -0800
From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: GGCCA Autocross

Kevin, how grippy Marina is at any given time depends on 1) how much sand has
blown onto the pavement, and 2) how much time we spend sweeping off the sand
prior to running.  We welcome more sweepers!

Speaking of orchard-running Dukes of Hazard imitations, the GGC used to have a
member named Martin Hunt, A.K.A. the "Mad Englishman".  He would come out in his
'02, with a different size/brand tire on every corner, and loved to drive
sideways!  Very much fun to watch.  He knew it was not the fastest way around
the course, he just wanted to have lots of fun.  Although I don't think any of
his tires were 125s...

Scott Miller
GGC Autocross Coordinator Dude
GGC Autocross March 19:    www.ggc-bmw-cca.org

>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:43:03 -0800 (PST)
>From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] GGCCA Autocross
>
>Actually, at the last one, the only people that got
>applause were those that either spun or were
>crossed-up most of the way around. Best
>orchard-running Dukes of Hazard imitation goes to the
>guy driving that brown 2002 with 125/90/13's on it.
>
>Kevin Kelly
>91 M5
>
>P.S. I learned that if I want to win some $$$ bet that
>any car with a supercharger whine WILL spin at some
>point, and I thought Marina was supposed to be grippy.

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:54:53 -0500
From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] B�ser blick

Larry said:

I believe that I've asked this question before, but would someone please
tell me the real reason why all of you guys are so upset about people
driving with their foglights on!?  I can't possibly see how lights on a car
can distract you so much or be so annoying.  As far as I'm concerned
foglights, that are aimed correctly, only enhance my ability to see the road
and make it easier for other drivers to see me coming. What is the big deal?

Many of the foglights are not adjusted properly.  Some of them just aim
high.  Also, their light pattern is not focused (in other words they just
spray light).

Some cars/trucks who drivers have them on during all types of weather
conditions are riding too low in the rear (therefore the lights point up
into oncoming drivers eyes).

Some drivers are more sensitive to light glaring in their faces.  Also, when
one has 4 lights blazing at them, their night vision is decreased.

Some drivers wonder why other drivers feel the need to have their fog lights
on while driving on city streets, in traffic jams, during clear weather, or
during the daytime.

I am sure that I am not the only who resents those who drive around with
their fog lights on all the time.  This topic has been discussed several
times in the past.

Dean
All 3 of my vehicles have "fog lights".  They have been on a total of about
3 hours in the past 12 months.

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:00:48 -0800
From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6ser?= blick

Dean,

You answered your own question.  Most fog lights are annoying.  Yours
may not be.  So what?  If someone sees your fog lights that may be fine
and think it looks 'Bitching Baby!!' they will want to do it.  Next
thing you know they've gone to Pep Boys and bought a $15 set of lights
that are aimed God only knows where.  Then they are a problem.  So its
the law of unintended circumstances.

Just like driving fast on a freeway is illegal for Michael the Shoe. 
Just because he can drive 100 in his sleep, if you let him then every
butt head (that would be me) would want to do it too.

Keep your lights off Dean.  Please :)

Jim

Dean Boucouras wrote:
> 
> Larry said:
> 
> I believe that I've asked this question before, but would someone please
> tell me the real reason why all of you guys are so upset about people
> driving with their foglights on!?

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:08:53 -0500
From: "John Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Foglights

My fogs are on when my normal lights are as well.  I think it helps
others see me.  And I believe I have been careful to make sure they are
aimed correctly.

John
95 325i

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:17:45 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOB> sigh

Wow, that might just replace the entire UUC Digest rules list!

- - Rob

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: [uuc] <WOB> sigh


> Okay.  Spring is in the air, stupid threads are rearing their ugly heads
> again.  If you people are really intent on fighting why don't you buy your
> copies of that Billy Blanks video and your little kickbox dummy and have
at.
> I promise it'll hardly ever kick your butt.
>
> Please leave the
>
Ithrashedanewcarandturnedonthefoglightswhilelisteningtomusicyoudon'tlikeandd
>
rivingfastacrossschoolyardswiththecopschasingandgotaticketIdon'tdeservebecau
> semytires/wheels/brakes/Mbadgeisbetterthanyours
> threads alone.
>
> Geeeze
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:31:31 -0800 (PST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: Fog Lights Negative Press

Funny this subject should come about now. Just the other night I got caught
behind some moron in an A6 with their rear fog on. Perfectly clear out,
absolutely no reason for it. I happened to be driving the Jeep so passing
wasn't an option. 10+ miles I had to deal with. They're not blindingly
bright of course, but more than enough to be annoying. I was almost inclined
to post a rant on the UUC Garage about it to vent but I figured the hell
with it. The 745 has fogs front and rear. I used the rears *once* on a
particularly foggy morning, the fronts I've only used a handful of times.
I'm not bothered by unnecessary front fog use, provided they aren't blasting
me in the face. If the driver feels *kewl* about it, more power to 'em. It's
the rear fogs that the US market isn't ready for. 
Keith Way







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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:49:53 -0500
From: "Joseph C. Volpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Audi test drive

I agree. Although a very nice car, the A4 falls short in critical areas.
Quality being one of them. When the A4 came out, Car and Driver did a long
term test where the Very expensive Quattro 5 speed manual transmission went
bad and cost thousands of dollars (I don't remember the exact cost but it
was very high) Car and Drive stated that if the car were still not under
warranty, the car would be worth spending the money on to repair.

Similarly, I have a client who bought a 97 2.8 A4 Quattro preowned for his
wife. The car was bought, serviced and traded in at this one VW/Audi/Porche
dealer. The record shown that all services were done. With the car one month
out of warranty by time but only having 24,000 miles on it, the transmission
failed. Audi USA and the dealer refused to replace or repair the
transmission without the customer paying 100% of the bill. About $6500!

>From my understanding from the research I've done, this story is common
among Audi/VW owners.

I'll keep my BMW!
- --  
Joseph C. Volpe

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:01:12 -0800 (PST)
From: John Stoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] More fog lights

All this talk of fog lights finally triggered the synapses and made me
remember how back in '87 I actually did go to the local auto store and buy
some cool aftermarket fog lights for my '83 Trans Am (yes this was before
even Pontiac was putting fog lights on everything).  I got ones that had
even more cool flip up covers (manual of course - you had to get on your
hands and knees to almost crawl under the big TA overhang to try to pop open
these covers to use the lights).  I don't know who came up with that design,
but I guess I was dumb enough to buy them.  I mean, if you had them closed
and actually came upon some fog, you would have had to pull over in order to
use the lights.  Of course, you could turn them on and burn them out with
the covers in place no problem.  Those things spent less than half an hour
turned on over the next two years I owned the car - and I should have been a
prime college age candidate for unnecessary-fog-lighting.

And I didn't even get a premium for them when I sold the car.

- - John





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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:07:33 -0500
From: "Peter Sterne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Fog Lights Negative Press

Funny you should mention an Audi, I've noticed that most of the cars with their
rear fogs on when it is not foggy are recent Audis.  Any Audi owner's out there
know why this might be?  My own hypothesis is that the dealer delivered the cars
with the rear fogs on and the owners do not know how to turn them off.  The rear
fog switch in my (wife's) Volvo wagon is in a terrible position, if you weren't
looking for it you would never know it was there.

OBMWC - I leave my front fogs on whenever my lights are on (actually I think
they go off automagically when the high beams are on).  I use them alone in
inclement weather and twilight conditions.

Regards,
Peter Sterne
'93 325is
'91 Miata SE


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Funny this subject should come about now. Just the other night I got caught
> behind some moron in an A6 with their rear fog on. Perfectly clear out,
> absolutely no reason for it. I happened to be driving the Jeep so passing
> wasn't an option. 10+ miles I had to deal with. They're not blindingly
> bright of course, but more than enough to be annoying. I was almost inclined
> to post a rant on the UUC Garage about it to vent but I figured the hell
> with it. The 745 has fogs front and rear. I used the rears *once* on a
> particularly foggy morning, the fronts I've only used a handful of times.
> I'm not bothered by unnecessary front fog use, provided they aren't blasting
> me in the face. If the driver feels *kewl* about it, more power to 'em. It's
> the rear fogs that the US market isn't ready for.
> Keith Way
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:21:26 -1000
From: "Pearson, Ben J LCDR (CSSPH NCSS1_46A)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] (e28) Fuel Leak

Hi all.  I have a fuel leak on my 87 535i 5 spd.  It looks like it's coming
from a rubber hose that is under the throttle assembly.  I can't see where
is attaches to the engine because of where it's located.  The engine is
still too hot to stick my hand up there.  I checked my Bentley but there
aren't any pictures that show the routing of the fuel lines to help identify
the offending hose.  Is this just a hose clamp problem or is it something
harder?  Thanks in advance.

Ben
87 535i 5 spd

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