[uucdigest] Monday, March 13 2000 Volume 03 : Number 431 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: RE:[uuc] Combustion Chamber Deposits Cleaning. Water? RE: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video RE: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video Re: [uuc] E34 ///M Key [uuc] <E30> Where's the central locking unit? Re: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video [uuc] Re: Cargo net Re: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video Re: [uuc] Re: Cargo net [uuc] Re: Bell Sounds Re: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video Re: [uuc] Combustion Chamber Deposits Cleaning. Water? Re: [uuc] double clutching [uuc] re Speeding ticket advice - Northern VA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:12:30 -0500 From: Chris Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE:[uuc] Combustion Chamber Deposits Cleaning. Water? Well, I had to chime in here since I am a diesel guy. I'll split a fairly large hair here, but water cleaning of turbochargers for large engines is not only recommended but required. I work for a large engine company - and, quoth the manual we issue to proud new owners of our engines (up to 90,000 bhp today) "The dirt and deposits on the turbine side (the side which the exhaust actually hits - as opposed to the compressor side) can be reduced by periodic cleaning." We also require cleaning of the compressor side. As Harvey C. says, "The key is how much/at what rate" and we also instruct on both. But then again our turbos are the size of VW bugs, sometimes. So, a turbo isn't a combustion chamber, I'll grant you that, but turbos are totally exposed to hot exhaust gasses, and I would expect that thermal shocking is probably greater than to piston tops and cylinder heads due to less thermal mass on turbine blades. Also, my gut says that to water clean an engine I don't know about the "soak" or waiting period which Rob indicated, I would just do it with the engine running. Finally, just to come full circle, Yeah, why's yr engine so dirty in the first place, and heaven knows what water does to all the spiffy high tech parts in the engine inlet air stream, and Techron or Lubro Ventil Sauber Moly XYZ....whatever is made by folks with a lot more money to lose than I.... Rgds, Chris Whitney '88 535i, not 524td ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:07:35 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video >I also had Stella out on the 'parade laps' on Saturday and Sunday, and took >a short video coming out of corner 10b, up the hill to 11, then down the >hill heading towards turn 12 and and the front straight! I was using my >Mavica and driving with one hand while shooting with the other - and even a >'parade lap' speeds, that hill takes your breath away. It's like you are >going to launch yourself into the Georgia sky, and by the time you see that >there is MORE TRACK,. it is too late. That concrete wall comes up in a >hurry.....quite agressive 'parade laps' if you really wanna know!!!! Turn 12 at Road Atl definately has a "sphinter factor 10" associated with it. If you want to see an entire lap of Road Atl, at speed, go to http://www.geocities.com/jvh_ice9/ (mirrored from my netcom page so they don't shut me down again ;) There are in car videos of a single lap at Road Atl, Carolinas Motorsports Park and Roebling Road available. After this season I hope to add some midwest tracks, assuming I can get into the schools... John E36M3 with stuff www.netcom.com/~jvanhout ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:12:02 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video >I also had Stella out on the 'parade laps' on Saturday and Sunday, and took >a short video coming out of corner 10b, up the hill to 11, then down the >hill heading towards turn 12 and and the front straight! I was using my >Mavica and driving with one hand while shooting with the other - and even a >'parade lap' speeds, that hill takes your breath away. It's like you are >going to launch yourself into the Georgia sky, and by the time you see that >there is MORE TRACK,. it is too late. That concrete wall comes up in a >hurry.....quite agressive 'parade laps' if you really wanna know!!!! Turn 12 at Road Atl definately has a "sphinter factor 10" associated with it. If you want to see an entire lap of Road Atl, at speed, go to http://www.geocities.com/jvh_ice9/ (mirrored from my netcom page so they don't shut me down again ;) There are in car videos of a single lap at Road Atl, Carolinas Motorsports Park and Roebling Road available. After this season I hope to add some midwest tracks, assuming I can get into the schools... John E36M3 with stuff www.netcom.com/~jvanhout - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 13, 2000 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video I volunteered at the driving school this past weekend - a great time was had by all. The weather was weird - Friday was dry, with some rain late, Saturday was overcast with monsoon-like rains in the afternoon, then Sunday was clear and cold - in the 30's early - and very windy! Road Atlanta lived up to the challenge, only a few cars were damaged, mostly on the rain-slickened track on Saturday. I've posted the pics to a new page on Photopoint, link below. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=344104 I also had Stella out on the 'parade laps' on Saturday and Sunday, and took a short video coming out of corner 10b, up the hill to 11, then down the hill heading towards turn 12 and and the front straight! I was using my Mavica and driving with one hand while shooting with the other - and even a 'parade lap' speeds, that hill takes your breath away. It's like you are going to launch yourself into the Georgia sky, and by the time you see that there is MORE TRACK,. it is too late. That concrete wall comes up in a hurry.....quite agressive 'parade laps' if you really wanna know!!!! http://www.conundrumcomputing.com/mvc-017v.mpg 800K, 35sec. Steve Jones 1990 750iL 'Stella' BMWCCA Peachtree, GA Chapter #164681 pics at http://conundrumcomputing.com/bimmer.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:40:53 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E34 ///M Key Get a E30 325i key and order the E30 M3 battery/lamp replacement. Dealer's are doofus's some days. Jim Kevin Kelly wrote: > > The key that came with the E34 M5 is like a standard BMW key > with a black roundel button to turn on the light, but it has > the ///M logo on the back. Any idea where to buy another > one of these? > > I called BMW of SF and Peter Pan BMW in San Mateo and they > both said they have never seen one. If I find a blank any > idea where I can get one cut in the SF Bay Area? > > Kevin P. Kelly > BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:40:53 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E30> Where's the central locking unit? I have just bought a 1989 318i Touring. It needs a little work so it's right up my street :-) The central locking doesn't do anything at all, can't see any blown fuses. Where is the control module? Abover the glovebox? Any common probs on E30 c/l? Also the rear passenger door won't open from the outside handle (which won't come fully up) or the inner button (which is stuck down). I'll try to remove the door lining from inside but would appreciate any advice. If I fix the c/l maybe it will sort itself out but I doubt it. - -- Who needs a life when you've got Unix? :-) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:20:01 -0500 (EST) From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video Chester Wong writes: > Is a video camera mount being used in that shot? It's awfully > shaky... Or is there someone in the backseat holding a camcorder? He said in his post he was holding it with one hand driving with the other. - -- Just Moe '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS BMWCCA Peachtree Chapter ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:56:19 -0800 From: Gleb Arshinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Cargo net >>>>> "Jim" == Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Where can I buy a cargo net for my e36 325? John (tired of John> loose items slinging around the trunk) Gleb> If your E36 has the same trunk as '99 E36 M3 (probably), Gleb> your friendly BMW dealer will have a rather nice net that Gleb> fits very well. It is $80 or something ridiculous like Gleb> that. Jim> The cargo net out of a Ford Taurus station wagon is very nice Jim> and much cheaper. Yup, I did think it was ridiculous, but I don't have much sense so I bought it. I also figured authentic BMW net would be worth 1-2 hp, easily, and it would not void the trunk warranty the way your Ford aftermarket product would. Do you think I should have checked if Dinan had a high-performance trunk net offering? In any case, I am going to blame your aftermarket high-performance trunk net for your passing me the whole weekend in Buttonwillow :-) Gleb <== I don't know about money, but definitely, no sense at all PS Does Taurus wagon net attach to those plastic loops we have in the trunk, like BMW net does? (I can't believe we are having a discussion about trunk nets ... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video Brain fade...sorry. I actually missed the original post and only saw the follow up which contained only the link. Whoops! =) Chester - --- Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chester Wong writes: > > > Is a video camera mount being used in that shot? It's awfully > > shaky... Or is there someone in the backseat holding a camcorder? > > He said in his post he was holding it with one hand driving with > the other. > > -- > Just Moe > '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS > BMWCCA Peachtree Chapter > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:13:49 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Cargo net The one I have attaches nicely. The clips are just a wee bit over sized but you get the hang of putting them in after you get the first one in. Then they are a cinch. Jim <== Will be discussing proper alignment of floor mat clips real soon now. Gleb Arshinov wrote: > PS Does Taurus wagon net attach to those plastic loops we have in the > trunk, like BMW net does? (I can't believe we are having a discussion > about trunk nets ... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:35:22 -0500 From: "Curt Kiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Bell Sounds Don Eilenberger writes: >Actually - this is the 2 minute warning bell.. for some odd reason >it appears that bavarians need to be reminded that it's going to be >some hour 2 minutes before - ie, at 2:58 a chime will ring to tell >you that in 2 minutes it's going to be 3:00.. The explanation is very simple. It's a 2 minute warning until the mandantory beer break! Curt Kiser BMW CCA Tidewater Virginia Chapter 88' M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:56:36 -0500 (EST) From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Road Atlanta Driving school pictures and short video Chester Wong writes: > Brain fade...sorry. Time for a fluid flush. =) I need them every so often; it collects moisture. - -- Just Moe '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS BMWCCA Peachtree Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:16:28 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Combustion Chamber Deposits Cleaning. Water? The only problem with doing this on a BMW is getting an even distribution of water. On a carb car, the manifold is designed for wet flow so you can just dribble water in. With fuel injection, I think some kind of a fogger spray arrangement would be much better. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Deep-cleaning via water, windshield washer fluid, or even ATF is common. I > wrote up a procedure on the Digest a year or so ago. It is a very effective > de-carbonization process that gets rid of carbon deposits which can cause > knoca nd ping or affect emissions. > > With the motor running, you want to feed water in via a vaccum line that > goes directly into the intake. You may have to manually hold the throttle > to keep the car from stalling. Very quickly you will start to see some > water vapor come out the tailpip - immediately let the car stall out or shut > it off. > > Wait about 5 minutes. > > Start the car and be prepared for huge white clouds of vapor that will cover > the area like a smoke bomb. Drive the car around a bit to get all the > moisture out. > > Dat's it, you're done! > > - Rob Levinson > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 1:27 PM > Subject: [uuc] Combustion Chamber Deposits Cleaning. Water? > > > > In India CCDs are cleaned using water that is sprayed into the intake. > When I first saw this I was horrified and asked the mechanic for an > explanation. In his limited technical vocabulary he gave me a simple > explanation: blown head gaskets that allow water (not much coolant in India > in those days) to come in contact with the pistons result in clean > combustion chambers being observed when the head is removed. > > > > Recently in conversation with a Malaysian friend, I learnt that they do > the same thing in Malaysia. An ex-Cummins friend pointed out a similar > procedure was used at Cummins to clean their diesel motors. > > > > Anyone know anything about this? Explanations? > > > > Neil Deshpande > > 1988 325 iS > > 1989 325 iC > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:25:40 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] double clutching The purpose is to speed up the gears on the input side to the rpm needed after a downshift. This makes the process smoother and puts less strain on the synchronizer rings. The technique was probably developed before synchromesh and in those days was necessary to downshift. Now its a way for the better drivers to separate themselves from the hoi-polloi. Sort of like manners and good grammar. When downshifting, pause in neutral, release the clutch and rev the engine to the rpm it will need in the lower gear. Then quickly depress the clutch, engage the lower gear and release the clutch. Doing this while braking is a heel and toe double clutch downshift. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What is double-clutching? When should it be used? > > Larry > 97 318i > > Mech Designer/Draftsman > Synthes Spine > > ************************************************************************* > The opinions and statements expressed above are mine, and do not reflect > that of my employer. > ************************************************************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:05:50 -0500 From: Ken Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re Speeding ticket advice - Northern VA <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>re Speeding ticket advice - Northern VA</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My son did about the same thing in = Harrisonburg. Haven't been to court yet, but we did call the = clerk of the court to ask what to expect. Her advice was to plead = guilty, then ask for dismissal of the charges/point if drivers school = is completed. All fines/points are suspended until after the = school date. Bring in your diploma no points. Hopefully it = will work this way in reality. I think the drivers school can be = used once every 5 years or something like that. Recommend giving = the clerk a call. </FONT></P> </BODY> </HTML> ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #431 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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