[uucdigest] Wednesday, March 15 2000 Volume 03 : Number 446 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Exhaust Options Re: [uuc] Status of S52 Engine in M Coupe [uuc] WTB Fuel Gauge in Dash for E36 [uuc] more power is faster VS. Gearing <wob> Re: [uuc] Radar Detectors.. [uuc] That FogLight Thread [uuc] <wob> Re: Cargo nets [uuc] RE: <E30> Shocking Suspension Questions [uuc] Gar(b)age sale [uuc] That LightBar Idea [uuc] [WOB]Heath Kit (was Re: first radar detector) Re: <wob> Re: [uuc] Radar Detectors.. Re: [uuc] <E36> Possible radio reception fix [uuc] Radar Detecting Through M5 Logo. [uuc] <wob> Killer Light Stories ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:04:09 -0500 From: Patrick Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Exhaust Options I suppose that this may start some controversy, but here goes. I need to replace my exhaust from the cat-back on my '84 733i. The choices I am considering are a 1-piece Bosal System for around $230 from Olympic Parts Co., a 2-piece (resonator and rear muffler) system from ANSA for $235 from Vertex Automotive, or an "OEM" system supposedly made by either ANSA or Bosal from Bavarian Autosport for $245. Obviously the price differences between these systems isn't significant, so what are people's general opinions of the performance, longevity, and sound of these systems as applied to a big six?? Thanks, Patrick Finn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:54:26 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Status of S52 Engine in M Coupe I hate to ask, but: Gary Derian said: >I agree with Andy. There is no way a 240 hp car will be as fast as the same >car with 321hp. Gearing helps but not that much. The difference will be >more noticeable at higher speeds, and the 240 may be plenty fast below 80 >mph but the 321 hp will be lots faster. The Euro engine also has more >torque at lower rpm. Gary - any documentation we could read on this? The published test times for the euro vs US coupe, 0-60 times have varied less than 1/10th of a second (given the range I've seen for the US coupe of 5.1 to 5.6 seconds 0-60 - I have never seen any euro rating of 5.0 or less..) And the euro engine has more torque at lower RPM? Got any numbers on this? I seem to remember the original US-M engine was specifically designed to have more torque down at low RPMs, sacrificing HP at higher RPM's 'cause that is the kind of driving we do.. And from the convoluted discussion ("240 may be plenty fast below 80 mph but the 321 hp will be lots faster.") on 'fast' and 'faster' above, I don't think anyone has argued that the US version IS faster than the Euro version - the point being made was the US version is fast ENOUGH (and equal or very close to the euro) for any realistic driving conditions in this country. Ultimate fast? Nope - but dare you to drive the current M-Coupe for long at it's top speed of 135 mph anywhere in the US on public roads.. you'll be slapped in jail real-fast-now.. ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:57:22 +0000 From: Don Trieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB Fuel Gauge in Dash for E36 I need to replace the fuel gauge located in the dash. BMW only sells the whole speedometer assembly, $450 bucks!!! Anybody have an old gauge they want to part with or source where I can get one for a '95 325? TIA Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:05:33 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] more power is faster VS. Gearing Gary, here is where I need to disagree with you and Andy. Gearing is everything! take into consideration the 430 HP 318ti the took 3rd place in the "one lap of America" this car would run the 1/4 mile in the high 12 - 13 second range. A stock M3 runs it in 13.3 @ 105 mph. this car was doing 130mph at the end but a stock M3 will only do 155mph (ungoverned) where this car will do 190mph (estimated). Also Keep in mind the Euro E36 ///M3 was not any much than the US market car in the 1/4 mile (100 mph) Brian Jacobs Everglades CCA 99 Z3 coupe 98 318ti <agree with Andy. There is no way a 240 HP car will be as fast as the same car with 321hp. Gearing helps but not that much. The difference will be more noticeable at higher speeds, and the 240 may be plenty fast below 80 mph but the 321 HP will be lots faster. The Euro engine also has more torque at lower rpm. The only time the 321 HP won't be faster is when both cars are traction limited. That might be up to 30 mph. The high power car will be traction limited to a higher speed> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:05:23 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <wob> Re: [uuc] Radar Detectors.. I have to ask this one: This thing is intended for automotive use, right? Not some gizmo out of a top secret spy aircraft or something? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:01:43 -0500 >From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] Radar Detectors.. > >Jeff guesses: > >>From: "Jeff B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [uuc] Radar Detectors.. >> >>It's gotta be the FuzzBuster for sure. They went for $100 approx. 1974. .>Jeff Becht 95 M3/2 > >Nope. Sorry. > >Found the original catalog I bought it from.. (I never throw >anything out..) > >Hint: Lafayette Radio > >Another hint: Battery operated. 2 mercury batteries. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:12:08 -0500 From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] That FogLight Thread Duane-O wrote: >With a flip of two sets of light switches, the night came alive in the >northbound lane. (Of course he told the story better and w/ more detail, but this should remind y'all of the topic at hand.) A buddy of mine once did the same thing with his Bronco--gave a hi-beam offender a shot of the KC HiLiters that is. The oncoming vehicle responded with a light show of his own--activating the pretty red and blue flashing "Federal Sign and Signal" lights located on his own light bar. FWIW, the Officer admitted he'd been slow to dip his lights and let my buddy off with a nothing more than a stern warning. But YMMV so be careful out there... jeff == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================== "Intelligent" and "Talented" don't sound especially pejorative. That's why the talentless and stupid had to invent the word "arrogant." Kristen Brennan, Buffalo Girls http://www.jitterbug.com/pages/buffalo.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:12:32 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <wob> Re: Cargo nets >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:53:44 -0800 >From: "Lisa V. Ferrari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #440 <snip> >>Boy, we get some good ones on this Digest, don't we? Wrecking cars on test >>drives, plowing up the school yard turning donuts, stealing cargo nets - >>what >>next, ripping off the Girl Scouts selling cookies in front of the grocrey >>store? >> >>Scott Miller >>GGC BMW CCA #44977 > >Scott, > >I told you already that all the charges were dropped. Geez. > >Lisa Yeah I know, they were actully looking for Bolhuis and Ochi-wan. And if those guys show up at the autocross (Marina Airport Sunday, 3/19) with Girl Scout Cookies, I'm callin' the cops! Of course, they'll have to fight their way through those hordes of nekkid wimmin' throwin' little pickles at Bolhuis... Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:13:59 -0600 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: <E30> Shocking Suspension Questions "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks: > > I am contemplating upgrading the springs and shocks on my 1990 > 325i. A fellow club member (only 3 miles from my house, no less!) > offered to sell me his used E30 M3 stock springs at a price I > cannot refuse. Of course, I need shocks/struts to match. I've > been happy with Bilstein Sports in the past (E24, E28), so I > thought that is the way I'd go. The car currently has 325is > springs (stiffer, not shorter than 325i springs) and Bilstein > HDs from my previous car, a 1987 325is (R.I.P.). > > Conventional wisdom (often being neither conventional nor wise) > says that the HDs are for cars that are at or very near stock > ride height, while the Sports are for cars that have been lowered > oh, say more than 3/4 of an inch. Thus my assumption was that > the Sports would be the way to go. Scott, FWIW, a local very fast autocrosser has been running his E30 M3 with Bilstein HDs for years. So HDs definitely work with stock E30 M3 springs. If they are better or worse then Sprots, I can't say. alex f ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:12:05 -0600 From: "Jeff Krause" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Gar(b)age sale I've got a some stuff including a couple sets of wheels for sale that are just taking up space. 91 M5 wheels with real R1s, 235/45 17 about 3/4 tread for $1100 16" E36 MSW snows with 225/50-16 Blizzaks. Used one time. $650 17" Racing Dynamics RGR with never-used 235/45 Stupidtomos (looks like Sport 9000). $1500 Near perfect set of black 88 M3 seats. $750 Plus a whole lot more, but you get the idea. Pics on my web site at http://driversedge.com. Jeff Krause 317-535-0250 Whiteland IN The Driver's Edge http://driversedge.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:27:01 EST From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] That LightBar Idea Where can I buy a lightbar? It doesn't have to be blues and reds. Maybe just oranges? Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:30:26 -0500 From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [WOB]Heath Kit (was Re: first radar detector) Jeff B. wrote: > >Don, Please don't say it was that Heathkit type crap. SNIP(I >think they all went out of business by the mid 70's) Heath Kit <http://www.heathkit.com/> is still in business though their primary focus has changed to training PC technicians. They were still doing kits in the early 90's though--I stopped in at one of their stores at that time. I used a Heath Kit audio amplifier--originally built by my Uncle and "serviced" by me for years. Okay, it wasn't (quite) up McIntosh or Crest Audio standards, but it worked just fine--bench and "ear" tested better than a lot of the "modern" stuff available in the early 80's. (Certainly much better than anything I could afford at the time--I think I was 12 when I took possession.) I later passed it along to someone in need and as far as I know it's still going strong. The problem with your shortwave probably had more to do with the "assembly" (verb) than the "assembly" (noun). :-) "the other" Jeff B. == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================== I believe in heavy thinking, I believe in heavy sound, I believe in heavy images, To hold it all down. --Chris Smither, Happier Blue ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:28:11 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <wob> Re: [uuc] Radar Detectors.. At 10:05 AM 3/15/00 -0800, Scott D Miller wrote: >I have to ask this one: This thing is intended for automotive use, right? Not >some gizmo out of a top secret spy aircraft or something? > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA #44977 Sure was.. and if top secret aircraft used it - we wuz in beeg-trouble! :-) ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:35:30 -0800 From: richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Possible radio reception fix thanks for the tip.. my am/fm/weather band cassette was doing the same when i changed out to an aftermarket cd unit... i 'm going to follow your suggestion,,,check for shorts/opens '''etc and hope to have it fixed...i miss the weather band here in tornado ally richard, scot exiled in texas Bill Bauman wrote: > > Perhaps some of you remember my plea for help on this topic. I had very weak > FM reception and almost no AM reception. > > It turns out there was a short in the ground of the antenna coax near the > connector where the coax plugs into the head unit. Cutting off about one > inch of the coax and replacing the connector solved the problem. > > Hope this helps someone else.... > > Bill Bauman > Genesee Valley Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:35:36 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Radar Detecting Through M5 Logo. Alex: Radar waves are very low frequency and high wavelength waves and are able to 'wrap' around small obstacles easily the wave visible light (the same electro-magnetic radiation) cannot. This is why dish antennae can be made of either mesh or matte finish painted surfaces, but mirrors cannot. In the case of dish antennae, this is kind of cool (no pun intended) because you can focus the satellite signal without focussing the heat and frying the electronics at the receiver! For a sound related analogy think of bass and how omni-directional it is and treble and how directional it is. So, the radar is not going through the plastic (it most certainly cannot), but around. To go through plastic you would need x-rays (very high frequency very short wavelength) that would go in between the molecular spaces(?). Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC *** "The unit is behind the front grill, and when I bought the car I saw they moved the ///M5 logo to the passenger side grill so the K40 would have a clean path. I hate having the logo on the wrong side, so I moved it back over the K40 unit....the radar seems to work the same as it did. I can't move the transmitter (or whatever) because there isn't enough extra wire. Doesn't the radar still shoot through plastic pretty well? Alex Cagann 88///M5" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:37:42 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <wob> Killer Light Stories You want killer light stories? I've got a killer light story! >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:29:14 -0500 >From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] That FogLight Thread <snip> >Back twenty years ago when I used to live in Broward County, Florida - west >of Boca Raton, it was largely undeveloped and I had a '79 Jeep CJ-7 <snip> >so like any night-drivin' off-road fool I had double racks of lights on the >CJ. There were (6) round Cibie quartz halogen driving lights on the top bar >above the windshield, and (4) Cibie halogen fog lights low atop the front >bumper (even two wired to the rear backup lights near the spare tire). >Seeing where we were going was never a problem on the dikes. <snip> >One night, some dufus coming the other way wouldn't dip his lights. High >beams!! I'm in my Jeep...and I flash him....HIGH-low-HIGH-low with the >standard headlights to tell him to drop his brights at about the 1/8 mile >closure distance. How does he respond? He dips to low, then comes back to >HIGH beam and leaves them on. So I HIGH-low-HIGH-low him again... > >Dufus turns on some K-Mart $ 15.95 a pair Ralleye brand fog lights in >addition to his high beams to shower me with light particles. No one is >gonna mess with him tonight on 441. It's a light duel. > >heh. > >I turn to my buddy Paul in the Jeep and say, "Shall we GIVE HIM THE SHOW?". >Paul just starts laughing. <snip> >- - Duane Collie And it is (supposedly) true, too, this happened to a friend of a former friend. Said Dude had a Jeep CJ with a pair of - get this - DC-3 landing lights mounted up on the roll bar. One night he's cruising a twisty mountain road in San Diego County and an oncoming car does not dim his high beams. Jeep Dude flashed the highs once. Nothing. Flashes them a couple more times. Still nothing. You asked for it, Dude says, and turns on the landing lights. The oncoming car swerves back and forth a couple of times, comes to a stop in the middle of the road, and then - you probably saw this coming, right? Oncoming car turns on the red lights! Yup, it was a County Sheriff's Deputy. So the Deputy gets out and uses the butt of his pistol to smash the lights. I cannot recall if he also gave Jeep Dude a ticket, but Jeep Dude submitted a bill to the county to get reimbursed for the replacement lights, and they paid his claim. So this pseudo-flame-thrower-with-lights thing can be great fun, as long as you know who's on the receiving end of your light show. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #446 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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