[uucdigest] Thursday, March 16 2000 Volume 03 : Number 457 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Exhaust Options [uuc] question for the do it yourself greasemonkeys [uuc] Parts Source Problems? [uuc] Re: Re: Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 [uuc] <E30> M3 Springs Price. Re: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? [uuc] Re: duPont Registry <WOB> [uuc] [all] Testing Xenons Re: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? Re: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? Re: new entry-level car, was: "Re: [uuc] Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 " [uuc] Yea Right $100K M5 Re: [uuc] Re: Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 Re: [uuc] RE: new entry-level car [uuc] Exhaust Options ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:54:04 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Exhaust Options At 03:18 PM 3/16/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Don Eilenberger wrote: >>Borla. Look at it and it rusts - which is OK 'cause it also won't >>fit correctly. Best used as landfill.. > >Whoa there Don. I'm not sure which Borla system you're referring to >(E28's?) but the M3 crowd loves their Borlas. Both E30 and E36 flavors, >after all they are stainless steel. You might be right about the fitment, >but mine's OK. > >-Carlos >91 M3 Could be the new ones (made of stainless) are ok.. the older steel "OEM type" replacements which I used to see in Roundel were soundly cursed at by my mechanic.. this was back in the days of BOHICA, so we're talking about 4-5 years ago.. I suspect the diff is OEM "type" vs "performance" type. ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:40:53 PST From: "Christopher Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] question for the do it yourself greasemonkeys hello, what do you guys use to get underneath your car to work on it from there? i'm looking for something relatively inexpensive, but does a good job of raising the car at least 18" so i can get underneath. i don't have a bimmer (yet) but i plan to in a few weeks. i do some small weekend mechanic work on my current '86 nissan POS, and i usually drive one wheel up onto a high curb, then jack the back wheel on the same side up, so i can use the sidewalk's slope to ease myself under the car. not the greatest way to do it, i know... are those wheel stand ramp thingys (for lack of a better description) you drive up onto, any good? how much are they about? any other suggestions? - -chris chow ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:46:20 -0800 From: Roger Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? Ever since Stephen at South Motors dropped mail order parts from his business:(, I've been using a couple other new parts sources. One of them was Joe Chavez at Nick Alexander in Los Angeles. I've noticed one irritating problem with him, if I send a request for quote/order with lots of small items, he never calls or faxes a quote or response back. He just blows me off, even though he says he'll get right on it when I call. If I send an order for a few big items he'll process it no problem. That's pretty lame, not to mention rude. If he doesn't want to take the small stuff he should just say so. I've also tried Pacific BMW, but they didn't want to give me the CCA discount until I asked repeatedly. Anybody have a GOOD source for discount factory parts? Roger Baker - -- 1992 325i AA Stage 1+ Turbo Track Toy 2000 VW Jetta Commuter Car 1996 Kawasaki ZX-6R The FAST One ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:53:17 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Re: Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, ben keyes wrote: > > How about the M-coupe or the M-roadster? > > Those are more expensive, yet they zig, so no tall guys allowed. > > not strictly true. I am just under 6'2" and fit without any trouble. I'm > on the thin side (185ish) but have heard of lots of taller people > fitting. there was just a thread on the M coupe message board about this > & several taller folks chimed in. I sat in one and just laughed and laughed. I'm only 2 inches taller tha you, but there was no possible way. Maybe without a sunroof, but I still doubt it. > > I bet the Z8 is the same way. > > huh ?? it's a roadster - why would there not be enough room for taller > people in it ?? you don't buy roadsters to drive around with the top up & > you certainly don't buy $128k roadsters as your only car & are forced to > drive them in all conditions ;-) yah, but if I spent that much on a car, I would still be pissed if I couldn't drive with the top up if I had to. But if I had that much spare change, I could get my shins shortened, and maybe take out a couple of vertabrae... > ps - yes I know the original post was meant as a <g> but wanted to add > that the coupe is not entirely un-livable for some of us tall(er) folks. > I think Rob is bitter he won't fit into one ;-) well count me bitter too! Bring back the E30, and raise the roofline an inch! - -- John Bolhuis | "In America it is not considered to be mentally ill bolhuijo | when a woman advances on her prey in a discotheque @bolhuijo.com | setting with hardy cocktails present." | -Madonna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:56:26 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> M3 Springs Price. Alex: I paid $125 for one set and $135 for another. Shipped. Both were bought from Listers. I've seen used parts' dealers sell them for $200. If I were paying $200 and I drove less than the 90% long-distance that I do, I would go with the H&R sports ($220). Steve Shelton has that setup on his car and I like it quite a lot. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS - M3 springs/Bilstein Sports 1989 325 iC - M3 springs/Bilstein HDs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:32:58 -0500 From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? I highly recommend using The BMW Store in Cincinnati. Their phone number is 800 543 1649 I have also had good luck with Hendrick BMW in North Carolina. I don't have their phone number handy but they usually advertise in the Roundel. Circle BMW is one more place that you may want to consider. Ask for Dave Reinhold in parts at 732 741-1184 Dean ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:07:21 -0500 From: "Bryan Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: duPont Registry <WOB> Eric wrote: > > > >Was surfin the web and found this beauty! > > > >2000 BMW 540i. > > > >Once again, you can enjoy the fruits of my labor on this truly marvelous > >vehicle. What started as a 2000 540i has now become a fully customized > >automatic M5. > <snip> > >A Supersprint exhaust improves sound, but also added over 50 hp > >and 60 ft./lbs. of torque, giving it a total output of over 350 hp and 385 > >ft./lbs.! That's M5 speed with an automatic! I had a little time on my hands (hey, we college students have tons of it), so I decided to write the seller an email, it goes as follows: <<<<If you believe your car has that much horsepower, I have a 1000hp (yes 1000, not 100) M3 Lightweight that I'll sell you for only $60 thousand. That's a steal for 1000 hp from a 3.0 liter motor. I added a cam, exhaust, intake and chip, that's the reason I picked up 760 extra hp whereas you only got 50 extra with an exhaust. I think the cool wheels and stereo on your car probably add about 30hp too. Plus that wing and carbon fiber should be good for about 20hp. If you add some stickers you can probably pick up some more power. You might even want to build a roll cage out of PVC, it'll add at least 20 easy horsepower. Man, your 350hp automatic is probably definitely faster than a REAL 400hp 6-speed M5. With all those cool mods, you are probably closer to about 410 to 450hp depending on how many speakers you have in it. If I had the cash I'd buy that car right up. Let me know if you want to trade for my 1000hp M3, I'll pay the $40,000 difference of course! Gullibly, Semore Butts>>>> I think the add may be a joke, I checked the guy's AOL profile and it says he is a college student. Either way I had fun writing the letter. I'll see if we replys. Unfortunately, I don't doubt that some fools are gullible enough to truely believe an exhaust would add 50 hp and that a 540i could EVER be worth $100,000. - -Bryan 95 M3 street car H-prep M3 CSL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:09:55 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] [all] Testing Xenons I have a set of E46 xenon lights that I want to test. Without putting them on the car, can anyone recommend a method?. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:19:46 -0500 From: "Jack Money" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? Dean sez (among other things): <<I highly recommend using The BMW Store in Cincinnati. Their phone number is 800 543 1649.>> I gotta second this. Talk with James Dean. He's great and the discount is 25%. For me it's very convenient since I live near Detroit....shipping is very quick. Great service, great prices, a good place to do business with. Regards, Jack Money Motor City Chapter iX Registry '89iX ----> Sharked! E30 ///MPower ----> Evolving [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://skumwerks.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:17:43 -0500 From: Eurowerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Parts Source Problems? If any of you need any parts, please feel free to give me a try. The normal discount to web buyer is about 40% off of BMW list. New to the mail order parts business, so we are trying very hard..... Just a thought to save us all some money..... - -- Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 606-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.euromajic.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:33:45 -0500 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: new entry-level car, was: "Re: [uuc] Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 " Steven Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Umm....I've never met this man in my life... *stepping away from poor naive > Grant* > ;) > Steve > '87 325iS You can't argue that an E46 is as "tossable" as an E30 is.. The E46 is just a lot heavier and more "plush", and possibly not as well constructed (as Rob pointed out). The E46 could be totally stripped out until all you have is the engine in a shell, and then become ok, but the E30 in stock form is pretty nimble, especially the iS models. In all actuality, I would keep my E30 and replace all the bushings and anything that could be worn out (probably cost a lot more than the car itself..) and then get a 328Ci ;) I actually plan on keeping my 325 for forever... sorta nostaglic, ya know? Rob wrote: >The same logic holds that BMW should continue the E36 as that tooling is >already paid for. In other words, fallacious logic. Not really that the E36 should continue... only if there was still a substantial market for the E36, alongside the E46, then yes, keep the E36 going too. But what I'm proposing would only occur if it were established that there would be a market for a "revived" E30 alongside the E46. The E30 (IMHO) has a much different focus than the E36, and an even more different focus than the E46. I think it would be sufficient to bring back just the E30 coupe as an entry level, aimed at people who buy things like Grand Ams and Eclipses (Eclipsii?) and other small sport coupes. In a perfect world, it would be available anywhere amentity-wise from the '91 318iS to including all the new traction control features, leather, CD, power everything, but more realistically it would be more of a compromise. >"They don't make 'em like they used to" is more true today than ever before. >I guarantee you won't see the same percentage of E36 and E46 cars still >drivable after 15 years as their E30 forefathers at the same age. Very true.. sadly.. Grant 87 325 http://gunter.gunter.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:38:15 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Yea Right $100K M5 Let's see Z8 at $125k or an overinflated M5? Was that a picosecond switch being thrown? The really sad thing about the price was that the seller thinks the stereo set-up is hot. In fact the workmanship that I can see is not really that great or extensive/unique. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:55:42 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 Yeah, but in the M Coupe I could hit the brake, clutch, and throttle all at once. ;-) - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Boucouras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Oh, I fit in one alright... although if a pretty girl walks by I could > > probably wave with both hands and still steer the car. > > > > - Rob > > > > Rob, > > You could do that in just about any car, couldn't you? > > Dean > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:07:44 -0500 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: new entry-level car Fadeev, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've thought about this before.. (not the height thing, but > > an entry-level car) Why not bring back the E30!! [...] > > You E30 drivers out there, imagine your car, brand new, with > > even "just" the current 323 2.5L engine, and updated ergonomics, > > including a cupholder (hehe)... > > They did exactly that => see Z3 > Weight: 2900-lbs > Performance: 6.8 secs (somewhere between *yahw* and *hehe*) Yeah.. but I think the Z3 has a different audience, i.e. the roadster crowd. I would personally love an M Roadster, but I prefer the coupe style, and the M Coupe is just too much sport (I know.. how can that be? hehe). The Z3 wins a lot of image points for cuteness. Ask lots of teenage girls what is a cute car, besides the Beetle. It makes me wonder how used ones will be in a few years.. Plus, I'd still like to be able to carry 4-5 people if I need to, and I do on a regular basis. <snip> > Grant, go out and drive an E36 or E46 just for kicks. No comparison. > E30 still could still pass for an inexpensive daily driver, but is no match > for either E36 or E46. Technological progress and all that. <snip> I have driven a '97 328is auto, and it was great! So much more refinement than my 165k+ miles E30. If I HAD to keep with one car, it would be an E36 328is, and who knows, maybe I'll get one someday ;) One thing I definitely like about the newer cars is the SMG.. The clutch is just a pain sometimes, but I still like the control of deciding when to shift. If it's quick enough, I'd love one... Thanks, you've given me an idea for the weekend.. I'll plan on a visit to the dealer and see what all they'll let me drive! Grant 87 325 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:15:30 -0500 From: "Henry Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Exhaust Options Don Eilenberger wrote: >Borla. Look at it and it rusts - which is OK 'cause it also won't >fit correctly. Best used as landfill.. Hold your horse there partner. Borla exhaust system is made of stainless steel. If and when that stuff rust, we all gotta get out of Dodge! :>) Henry '92 325i w/ stainless steel Borla ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #457 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
