[uucdigest] Thursday, March 16 2000 Volume 03 : Number 455 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Willow Springs Track Guide [uuc] re: v-1 detectors [uuc] Conforti software in Bay Area? new entry-level car, was: "Re: [uuc] Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 " [uuc] <WOB> Stupid Chester Tricks (Part ...uh..) was: Re: [E36M3] DYI in your garage...fire alarms et al. [uuc] <ROVER> So what's going to happen next to BMW? Re: [uuc] Re: Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 Re: [uuc] Looks like more router problems Rant.. [uuc] More on Rover (for those interested) RE: [uuc] Recall on M-Coupe RE: [uuc] Exhaust Options [uuc] How Much M3 Springs Cost ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:33:43 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Willow Springs Track Guide A while back somebody pointed me toward some useful track guides that someone in the NorCal Shelby Club put together for Laguna, Sears and Thunderhill (http://www.norcal-saac.org/ot/otbook.htm). The guides contain a track map with detailed descriptions of each turn. Does anybody know whether a similar guide exists for Willow Springs? The upcoming Willow Springs driving school will be my first time at that track, so any information I can find will be useful. Come to think of it, if anybody knows of a source for similar guides to other California/Nevada/Arizona (or anyplace else that's within a reasonable driving distance for a newly obsessed So Cal driving school junkie), go ahead and pass that along too. Thanks, Dan 99 M Coupe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:49:59 -0800 From: "BILL MITCHELL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: v-1 detectors Ben finally admits: <Well, since I dont speed anyway, I'll just save up until I can afford a V1> YOU DON'T SPEED? What are you doin' even wandering around on this digest? Every red-blooded 'merican Bimmer driver SPEEDS!!! What fun is there in ownin' one if ya don't SPEED? You're just pullin' our leg, right? Bill-banger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:55:35 -0800 From: Chad Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Conforti software in Bay Area? Hello all, I have been wanted to get the Conforti software for my '98 328is for a very long time, but it's my only car and I can't have it "down" for as many days as it takes for Eurosport. Does anyone happen to know if there is a location in or around the Bay Area that I can get this yet? Thanks, Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:25:35 -0500 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: new entry-level car, was: "Re: [uuc] Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 " Rob the-tall-guy wrote: <snip> > BMW needs an entry-level car that is "free" enough to discard the parts-bin > construction, similarity of looks that would cheapen the image of the > upscale versions, and drain the corporate coffers with high construction > cost. > </snip> I've thought about this before.. (not the height thing, but an entry-level car) Why not bring back the E30!! The exterior design is still plenty attractive, the interior could be mildly updated to today's ergo specs, and voila, there's the perfect solution! You E30 drivers out there, imagine your car, brand new, with even "just" the current 323 2.5L engine, and updated ergonomics, including a cupholder (hehe)... Plus, aftermarket people will HAVE to start making parts for the E30 driveline/body style again, resulting in a lot of cheaper and more plentiful upgrade parts! The development cost would be really low for BMW, since they already have most of the engineering done, and maybe even still have some of the manufacturing equipment. My guess is a new E30-based entry-level car would come in little over 20k.. very affordable! Plus, it could have plenty of power, and I'm sure many many engines could end up in one, like the S14 or maybe even the 3.2L M engine.. oh the possibilities!! I think it could bring back the flavor of the original 2002: be lightweight, affordable, upgradable, modifiable, and available in a stripped down version (with the 1.9L). Plus, I've never heard complaints about E30 headroom.. seems like enough to me (I'm about 5'9" though..) if you put the seat down and back. Anyone else want to start a petition? ;) Long live the E30!! I'd rather have a brand new, updated E30 than an E46! Grant - wanting a brand new 2002 E30-style coupe.. 87 325 http://gunter.gunter.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:31:01 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WOB> Stupid Chester Tricks (Part ...uh..) was: Re: [E36M3] DYI in your garage...fire alarms et al. Hmmmm...how did you know? <g> ;-) Actually, this reminds me of a story..... 'Lil Chester making two friend eggs - ------------------------------------------ I was about 8 years old at the time. My grandfather owned a Chinese Takeout on Avenue U and East 8th Street ("Bo Jen" for all you localites). Every Saturday, I would help out by preparing the fried rice for the hungry customers. Every now and again, I would hear a customer screaming at the top of his lungs that he didn't want a kid cooking his food. Bite me. Business was good back then...so much that my grandfather would oftentimes take the phone off the hook because we couldn't handle the volume. Anyway, my uncle lived in an apartment above the restaurant. So one day when the store wasn't opened yet, my and uncle and I were working on one of the R/C cars. He was hungry and told...er...asked me to make him two fried eggs. No problemo. I head for down to the kitchen to cook up some grub. I grabbed two eggs and headed over to the gigantic 3 - 4 foot diameter wok. I used my knee to turn on the heat and wait and wait and wait for the wok to get hot. Hmmm...about 20 seconds passed and the wok still wasn't hot.\ "What gives?," I thought to myself. I turn off the gas and I lift the wok. Guess what? The pilot light wasn't lit. "Oh...that's why!" I reached for a book of matches, peel one match out and light it. I lift the wok again and I reach down with the lit match to light the pilot light. It was right about then that I heard a loud pooof and saw a huge fireball travelling from the bowels of the fire ring towards my face. Faster than I could even react, I felt a warmth come over my face. *WOOOOOSH* Startled, I dropped the wok back into the recess and checked for any damage. My face was intact. Nothing felt like it was burning. I was A-OK!!! Alrighty then! Well, 8 year old Chester had a very fragile ego and didn't want anyone to know about it and just kept that little tid bit to himself. I reach for another match and light it and proceed to light the pilot light. No poof sounds, no great ball of fire...the pilot light is lit. We're in business. I proceed to cook two eggs and place them on a plate and bring it up to my uncle. My uncle was a very hard man to please. He is 15 years my senior and loved to give a good ribbing when I did something stupid. When I brought the eggs up, he wondered what took me so long (...I certainly wasn't going to tell him what happened!). "Oh.....uh....nothing." "Chester, did something happen?" "Ummmmm......no....why would you ask such a question?" He reaches over to my face and then grabs a chunk of my bangs. A clump snaps off from being burned and brittle. He then started to laugh uncontrollably... My eyebrows, eyelashes and front bangs were burned to a crisp... Chester - --- Ben Liaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it just me, or did others just get a image of chester running around > his garage with his hair on fire? > > ben liaw > > Chester, "What the fire box does besides being 'yellow' is > > explained here: http://www.protectoseal.com/containers_training.html > > > > Nice description of how a spark arrestor works too. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:29:55 GMT From: "John G.Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <ROVER> So what's going to happen next to BMW? What will all this do to BMW's share price and prospects of being taken over? Why on earth are they wanting to sell Land Rover? I suppose the X5 will eat into Range Rover's sales. Maybe they need the cashflow a sale would generate. - -- Who needs a life when you've got Unix? :-) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:36:49 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Compact Axed As BMW Readies New Z2 John Bolhuis wrote: > How about the M-coupe or the M-roadster? > Those are more expensive, yet they zig, so no tall guys allowed. not strictly true. I am just under 6'2" and fit without any trouble. I'm on the thin side (185ish) but have heard of lots of taller people fitting. there was just a thread on the M coupe message board about this & several taller folks chimed in. > I bet the Z8 is the same way. huh ?? it's a roadster - why would there not be enough room for taller people in it ?? you don't buy roadsters to drive around with the top up & you certainly don't buy $128k roadsters as your only car & are forced to drive them in all conditions ;-) Ben Keyes ps - yes I know the original post was meant as a <g> but wanted to add that the coupe is not entirely un-livable for some of us tall(er) folks. I think Rob is bitter he won't fit into one ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:38:29 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Looks like more router problems It's been fixed... for now. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 11:30 AM Subject: [uuc] Looks like more router problems > Can't get to the UUC Motorwerks webpage > > ping www.uucmotorwerks.com > ICMP Host Unreachable from gateway nss5-gp.psc.net (198.32.224.254) > for icmp from mercury (129.228.59.46) to 61-216.205.61.interliant.com > (216.205.61.61) > no answer from www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:35:12 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rant.. [uuc] More on Rover (for those interested) Allen passed us back some info.. (thanks Allen - the rant isn't at you!): >Subject: [uuc] More on Rover (for those interested) > >The British car lists are staying on top of this one. >Allen >By Alan Jones, Industrial Correspondent, PA News > >The Prime Minister today pledged to do everything he could to safeguard >the >future of the biggest Rover car plant as fears grew that the factory >could >close with the loss of tens of thousands of jobs. /rant-on Have you EVER read such a bunch of politically self-serving crap as this article? And seen as much whining from the people who are causing the losses (the workers?)?? Jeezzeuuusss.. after how many billions of dollars (marks) thrown down the black hole that is Rover these buttheads expect BMW to continue to subsidise poor management, bad labor practices and an obsolete production facility resistant to updating due to the union contracts restricting them? They should be REQUIRED to watch the movie "I'm all right Jack" until they can repeat every line of it from memory.. Sheeze.. only thing that surprises me is it's taken BMW this long to pull it's corporate head out of it's ass and see the light. I particularly loved: >Keith Bagnall, who has worked at the sprawling Birmingham site for more >than 30 years, said: "We have been here before and we all know that BMW >are only interested in the plant at Solihull and the profitable Land >Rover part of the company." Hey Keith - get a brain. It's all about profit. Sure - BMW should loose money on every piece of crap coming out of your plant and make it up in quantity so your plant can drive BMW profits down to the point where BMW can't make competitive designs and then BMW will be exactly where you are. You cut out tumors when they start to spread.. that's exactly what BMW is doing after trying it's damnest to cure the illness. /rantoff I feel better now.. ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:35:20 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Recall on M-Coupe Annoder Don asks: >I test drove an M Coupe last nite and just love the way this car >drives. I'm thinking of getting one now but I recall there was a >recall for some fuel problem or something else where the dealer cut a >hole in the carpet to replace the part? What was the whole situation >on this again? > >TIA >Don It was not a 'recall'. If the fuel-level sensor goes bad - there is a premarked and prepunched area of the carpeting behind the passengers seat which is opened up to replace the sensor. The prepunching is VERY obvious even if the carpet is never opened up, and if it was done right by the dealer - and refastened - it shouldn't look any different than when it comes from the factory. And this was a very infrequent problem - I have not had ANY problems with my coupe.. any. Zilch. Nada. None. Bupkiss. As far as recalls - are you getting a new M-Coupe or used?? There have been NO recalls (recall implies it MUST be returned at the order of the US government). There have been some small service campaigns which any new one wouldn't be subject to - and used ones would have had. The ones I know of are: 1. Move some wires - effected about 20 cars total. Not criticial. 2. Replace camshaft position sensor - some (very few) failed - all sensors to date of campaign start were replaced (and the wires in #1 were moved) 3. Motronic reprogramming - for rough cold idle (30 second problem) and to recalibrate the oil-temp gauge. All of these should have been done on a used M-Coupe - if not - they are still free. They shouldn't need doing on a new one. Get the coupe - you'll love it! ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:38:31 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Exhaust Options CRS stikes Jack: >Rob writes: > ><<Bosal and Ansa are *not* in the same league!>> > >I thought Bosal was the brand that Steve D'G claimed rusted as you watched >it. What am I thinking of? > >Jack, Bosal, Boysan, Boris, Buttkiss, Beancounter....blah blah Borla. Look at it and it rusts - which is OK 'cause it also won't fit correctly. Best used as landfill.. Bosal makes the stock system on the E28 535i - ordered one once, was an EXACT duplicate to what came off - including the Roundel on the muffler. Ansa makes crap. Some of it is pretty crap for about 10 minutes then it turns to plain crap (the wrinkle-painted chrome tipped stuff they make - looks nice until it gets hot..) :-) ................................................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger "You're absolutely right, and I apologize" --Darryl Richman "Silly me... I apologize." --Tim Hall "Sorry..." --Magwa ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:46:12 -0800 From: "Scott D Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] How Much M3 Springs Cost Alex, I've been waiting for someone to ask me this question! I've taken the liberty of posting your question and my answer to the UUC Digest, since your question was fairly generic and did not contain any embarassing personal information. >To: Scott D Miller/Msq/Oak/Bart@BART > >Subject: RE: <E30> Shocking Suspension Questions > > > >> So the M3 springs are now sitting in a box in my garage waiting >> for me to have a free weekend to do the swap. > >Scott, >Forgot to ask you: where did you procure your E30 M3 springs? How much are >they going these days? > >TIA, >alex This is the best part of the story. I had been offered a set for $100 plus shipping, and all I had to do was wait for them to be removed from the car. Then I mentioned my possible upgrades to some local Bimmerheads. My friend / fellow CCA member Steve, who lives only 3 miles from me, says he has a set he'll sell me "cheap". "A lot less than $100", he says. So I'm thinking, hey, no shipping! I dropped by to look at the springs (not that I'd know what I was looking at), and I ask how much he wants. He says, "Buy me a bottle of wine". Of course, Steve has good taste in wines, so I can't just buy him the cheap stuff that I drink, but still, just a bottle of wine?! And my wife and I will probably get to help he and his wife drink the wine! So that you can judge the value, the springs have a couple of rust spots, and I'll have to clean off the rust and touch up the paint before I install the springs. No big deal. So then Steve says he'll sell me the sway bars, too. How much, I ask? "How about some cheese to go with the wine?", he says. Except that, as you all know, I'm not going to use his sway bars. So he'll have to get his own cheese. But to answer your question, Alex, a couple of people told me that $100 was the going price. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA #44977 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #455 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
