[uucdigest] Monday, March 20 2000 Volume 03 : Number 473 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] BMW Partners? Ford? Lexus? nope Honda! [uuc] Re: <M40> Damn Haynes manual! [uuc] Re: Idiot light question for a 7 series [uuc] FW: BPG Intake Shootout results [uuc] Looking for a history lesson [uuc] <E36> FOR SALE: '96+ BMW CD Changer [uuc] <All> Floor Mats [uuc] RE: Ticket help [uuc] <E30> <iX> Control Arm Replacement Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson [uuc] Re: BMW and Ford // Response [uuc] 535i FS [uuc] '72 Bavaria Spotted (FS) Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:21:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] BMW Partners? Ford? Lexus? nope Honda! I think Honda would be the company for BMW to merge with if any. Hopefully BMW can remain independent but if not Honda would be the best. Both companies are known as Motor companies, just imagine the engines possible if they merged. They both could share motorcyle technology and they can complement each other in the front/rear wheel drive technology areas with thier cars. Idea would be to keep Honda in the entry level, Acura in the entry to mid level cars and BMW mid level to luxury and reserve Rolls for extreme luxury. My .02cents Rick Key 95 ///M3 JimC ///Motivated ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:29:02 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <M40> Damn Haynes manual! John, I've not worked on an M40, but the factory manual makes no mention of removing the crank hub. If it's anything like the M20, you should be able to remove the pulleys by removing some smaller (13mm?)bolts around the hub. The belt can then be slid by the hub, although it is a tight fit and you MUST keep the belt very flat to do it. The factory manual does mention quite a few special tools to do this job, including one for keeping the cam at TDC, which would indicate to me that there is no timing mark on the cam. Take care with this. Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] <M40> Damn Haynes manual! > > Put a new camshaft in an M40 1.8 at the weekend, went OK except for one thing. The Haynes manual (E36 #3210) says nothing about having to remove the > crankshaft pulley to replace the belt. It's held on by a bolt with something > like 229lb/ft torque and there's no way I have the tools to get that on and off. > > Well kiddies you DO need to remove the lower pully. Scream!!! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:31:40 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Idiot light question for a 7 series Have the dealer recode the LKM. It has somehow decided that the car has a trailer hitch, it needs to be told otherwise. Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: "JEFFREY L BECHT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Idiot light question for a 7 series > > A friend of mine has a 1992 735IL and has a question. Recently, his > idiot light panel started flashing "Trailer Light" but all of his lights > both inside and out seem to work just fine. > Jeff Becht 95 M3/2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:42:37 -0500 From: Steve Hazard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FW: BPG Intake Shootout results > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Hazard > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:41 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: BPG Intake Shootout results > > FYI.....Not to start up another long thread.....but here are the results > of a ECIS CAI Kit vs JC CAI kit on a bone stock 99M3.... > http://www.b-p-g.com/products/news_by_bpg/intake_shootout/intake_shootout. > html > > The results are what I suspected to see......... > > Next head to head will be a Sharked OBD II M3...... > > > > Regards, > Steve > Lots of mods......... > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:46:10 PST From: "William States" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson I was watching the 12 hours of Sebring on Speedvision last weekend and it wan mentioned that the BMW V12 LMR was white because that is the national racing color of Germany. I remember Silver being the national racing color of Germany because Dr. Porsche refused to paint the 550 Spyder (for weight savings) at the begining of the season and the sanctioning body allowed him to use Silver as the car color. Does anyone know the story behind the national racing colors? Thanks, William States 99 M3 Silver, but don't tell me I need to paint it white. ;-) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 2000 08:03:43 -0800 From: Theo Teazis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E36> FOR SALE: '96+ BMW CD Changer Hi all, Since my '97 M3 is now only driven for club racing, I have no need for the CD changer. It was hardly used to begin with... It is in like new condition. Asking: $350 + shipping from S. California. Please email directly at "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or call 714-377-3920. Thanks, Theo. '97 M3 HS club racer. '85 M635 for everyday. ____________________________________________________________________ For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:20:33 -0500 From: "Lowe, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <All> Floor Mats Looking for a place to get good floor mats at a reasonable price. I like the looks of the ones from Bavarian but they are nearly $100 for the set of four. Anybody have any suggestions? Regards, Daniel L. Lowe BMWCCA #93878 '87 325is '88 535is ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:21:53 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] RE: Ticket help It was written- << I got written up for a 75 in a 65, even though I was doing an indicated 90 mph. Looking for suggestions from people who been through this before, the ticket was issued by CHP San Jose. >> Go to court and declare that the CHP didn't know what he was talking about since you were doing 90 not 75. Ask for a dismissal on that basis. What's wrong with this picture? The CHP gives you a BIG break. If you fight it he might not be so generous with the next guy. You were naughty by your own admission, go to the front of the line, pay up, be accountable for your actions. Or else sue him for lying about the 75. Michel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:31:28 -0800 From: "Larry Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> <iX> Control Arm Replacement Failed the Tech Inspection on Friday for the 1st driving school of the season....excessive freeplay in outer ball joint. Is replacing the control arm a DIY job? There was some talk at the school about replacing with an E30M3 control arm. I wonder how different the iX is from other E30s. I assume the control arm rubber bushing should also be replaced....and possibly upgraded, at the same time. Is it true that R&R of this bushing is difficult and NOT a DIY job? Should both control arms and bushings be replaced while at it? BTW, ran home and got the SPARE BMW, which DID pass tech, so.... had a great time at the school in spite of the minor unexpected trauma. Larry Simmons '91 iX '91 M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:30:59 PST From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson William wrote: >I was watching the 12 hours of Sebring on Speedvision last weekend and it >wan mentioned that the BMW V12 LMR was white because that is the national >racing color of Germany. I remember Silver being the national racing color >of Germany because Dr. Porsche refused to paint the 550 Spyder (for weight >savings) at the begining of the season and the sanctioning body allowed him >to use Silver as the car color. Does anyone know the story behind the >national racing colors? > Don't have the exact info, but it's not because Dr. P, or the Mercedes people not wishing to paint the 300slr either. Remember before that time the AutoUnion and MB grand prix racers were all silver. Maybe it's possible that the speedvision people got their facts wrong. I seem to remember white being the Japanese racing color. (Not that two countries can't have the same color...or can they??) Gilbert Hoffman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:31:52 -0500 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: BMW and Ford // Response I agree with Jim's assessment of the ever changing corporate board vision... >The high end division is nice but >corporations switch visions and goals faster than chameleons change >colors. I'll believe it in 20 years and a cople more boards and CEOs. That is exactly what worries me about any sort of potential buyout. Eventually you both weaken and dilute the BMW brand name and product line. The auto industry went through another consolidation period in the 50's and 60's. BMW survived that too (just barely as we know). No, I don't want to drive a Mopar Benz either..... but yes, if I had to pick a US partner to merge with, I would choose Ford (given a choice of US automakers), if not for its leadership (former BMW men), but it does have a diverse product (well, at least they are different in "name") line (Premium Brands)..... Does a merger make economic sense? Sure if you look at absolute costs of constructing a vehicle. But, in the end, you have a product that is weakened (sharing platforms, motors etc) and may loose some of its defining characteristics (that may sell the product in the first place) within the market place. Consolidation is not always a good thing, IMHO.This reduces competition, and in turn you are forced to buy one product (classic argument). In the future we all will end up with a market place that has weakened products. The bottom line is always profits.... no matter what sort of "vision" they have. If Ford decides to completely "hands-off" and allow BMW to be BMW, then we wouldn't have much to worry about. Ultimately, I don't believe this will be the case (if in fact there are anything to the rumors)....again simple economics (bottom line) would be a factor. I also worry about a couple of other things, interbrand wars and a diluted product Interbrand wars:, what if Ford buys BMW. BMW wants to build a car that, on paper, is going to steal a good share of the (lets say) larger 4 door market. Would Ford, say no to protect the interests of its other marques? Or would Ford allow BMW to design a chassis that, in turn, would be used by Volvo or Jaguar? Or worse... to cut costs, Ford asks BMW to re-skinned a Volvo/Jaguar/Lincoln chassis?? Also, lets say BMW wanted to build a small 2 series. Would the exec's at Ford tell BMW to take the newer Ford Focus chassis, rebody it, and call a 2 series (size, dimensions would be at that "smaller end of the mid-size car market"). From a business stand-point, it would make economic sense. It might end up being practical, fun and it would reduce the R&D time and development costs. You would come out with a vehicle that will sell to the masses despite its front-wheel drive iteration. Yes I think it would sell, despite true enthusiasts like you and I who want rear-wheel drive. Most people (the masses) have no idea that BMW are rear-wheel drive cars. Again, the product would ended up diluted and BMW would start to loose its defining characteristics (that sells the product in the first place.... the whole big fish in a smaller pond idea). But would it then be just another car in the market place??? Not much different from the original Focus, but with a different badge...... I hope BMW is not ready to give into Ford (or anyone else) quite yet.... They can survive on their own, perhaps with some smaller strategic partnerships (suppliers etc) that would allow for independence and not an all out merger. Economically, they do have the capability to compete and expand their markets. If you look at BMW sales world-wide throughout the 90's, they have gone up (quite strongly (look at the 3 series)). BMW also has a unique (or at least somewhat unique, Peugeot is in a similar situation) position of having one family (Quandt) (as we all know) own a controlling stake (47%). They (Quandt Family) are very independent. If there is one car company in this world that has a fighting chance of doing it on their own, its BMW. - -Justin - -- '76 02 '92 325is BMW CCA#77056 http://users.vei.net/jgerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:35:43 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Volpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 535i FS I saw this in my local paper. I thought I would pass it on... Philadelphia Inquirer 3/19/00... BMW 535i '92 auto, Wht/Tan lthr, snrf, CD, M5-17" whls & spoiler, all maint. rec. gar, 90k, brand new. $14,900/bo 856-797-8811 Good luck, it wont last long at that price! Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:42:35 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] '72 Bavaria Spotted (FS) Out here in Tucson for a visit, came across this: '72 Bavaria Automatic original paint (rough) carbs are off (not running) interior good straight, some surface oxidation (originally from Denver) has been sitting 2.5 years 25k on some sort of "rebuild" $499 (520)896-2887 (I don even know the guy's name...) Located in Oracle, ~35 miles N of Tucson, AZ I am outta here tomorrow morning, so I'm sorry I can't help out any more than this!!! RobW ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:54:10 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Looking for a history lesson Gilbert Hoffman wrote: > William wrote: > >I was watching the 12 hours of Sebring on Speedvision last weekend and it > >wan mentioned that the BMW V12 LMR was white because that is the national > >racing color of Germany. I remember Silver being the national racing color > >of Germany because Dr. Porsche refused to paint the 550 Spyder (for weight > >savings) at the begining of the season and the sanctioning body allowed him > >to use Silver as the car color. Does anyone know the story behind the > >national racing colors? > Don't have the exact info, but it's not because Dr. P, or the Mercedes > people not wishing to paint the 300slr either. Remember before that time the > AutoUnion and MB grand prix racers were all silver. Maybe it's possible that > the speedvision people got their facts wrong. Silver, be in un-painted aluminum or paint seems to have been the official color scheme of Pre & Post-WWII German racers, many of which pre-date Dr. Porsche's involvement in racing I believe. the weight savings angle certainly makes sense. > I seem to remember white being the Japanese racing color. that's correct - the 60's Honda F1 cars were white with little blue stripes I believe. I know the following colors ; silver (or white) - Germany red - Italy (various shades - not always "Ferrari" red) light blue - France green - British racing obviously darker blue w/wide white stripes - US - based on 60's Cobra coupes & the Corvette Gran(d?) Sport maybe I'm all wet here - don't have all my car books at the office. > (Not that two countries can't have the same color...or can they??) don't know. With manufacturers coming back into F1 in full force, the national colors have made something of a resurgence, albeit with the required sponsor logos mixed in - - McLaren, Ferrari, Jaguar & BMW all seem to stick with the "correct" national colors. Ben ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #473 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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