[uucdigest] Monday, March 27 2000 Volume 03 : Number 515 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? [uuc] E36 Alignment specs needed Re: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? [uuc] E36 doesn't run after the car wash [uuc] <E30> Fuel Line Leak. Atlanta Area Mechanic? [uuc] Game officer [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #513 [uuc] ATE Powerslot rotors (E30) Re: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? [uuc] ATE Powerdisk [uuc] Re: Isopropyl vs. Methyl Alcohol [uuc] Roll Bar Foam in colors! [uuc] re: (WOB) Posting F1 Results [uuc] Motronic/DME interchangability [uuc] ATE Rotors [uuc] Re:Dyno Test results needed [uuc] RE:Ford takeover & resale value? Re: [uuc] <E30>M20 10:1 compression OR 2 head gaskets!!? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:00:11 -0600 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? "Chuck MacWilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >"Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Oh crap, could timing belt pieces really show up in places > >like that?! I thought the timing belt was completely internal. > >'87 325iS > > No, it's not completely internal. Take it from me, one who > has lost an engine due to blown timing belt. I saw pieces > of rubber teeth throughout the engine compartment after it > broke. Check it out! Chuck and the other guy who brought up the timing belt subject: stop spreading this paranoia! There is no way in hell an E30 M20 owner can be asking around if his timing belt is broken. If it was, he would be the first to know. alex f ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:23:22 -0500 From: "VincentMathew Malfa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Alignment specs needed It's time for my 94 325 to get an alignment, but I'm not sure if I have the right specs. Car is currently running a 95 M3 suspension with 97 M3 strut mounts swapped left to right for additonal negative camber. These are the numbers I had planned on using: Front toe: zero - 1/16" in, total (0.00 - 0.12 degree) Rear camber: 0.8 - 1.0 degree negative, per side Rear toe: 1/16" - 1/8" in, total (0.12 - 0.24 degree) But are they still correct with the front camber change? Thanks, Matt M 94 "325 tds" just back from major surgery, web page will be up shortly! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:44:07 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? Fadeev, Alex wrote: > Chuck and the other guy who brought up the timing belt subject: stop > spreading this paranoia! There is no way in hell an E30 M20 owner can be > asking around if his timing belt is broken. If it was, he would be the > first to know. Alex, it is possible for a belt's teeth to be shearing off, but the belt itself not to have broken. The engine would operate just fine (for a while) with a few missing timing belt teeth, as many teeth are enaged to each of the three toothed pulleys at any one time. It's not always an all or nothing situation. However, it seems fairly obvious that the belt may indeed be due for replacement, and I would strongly suggest not driving the car until the engine has been properly inspected to verify what exactly the problem is, and repaired if necessary. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:26:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] E36 doesn't run after the car wash Hello everyone. I'm guessing this has been asked (and answered) before. I searched the Technical Assistance page without luck. Honest. :) So, here I am. My E36 325ia doesn't run after the car wash. It died within a minute or two of pulling out of the bay, with the transmission error light on. After 25 minutes or so, the car started and ran fine. This doesn't happen if I hand wash it -or drive in the rain. I seem to remember hearing about the ECU getting wet. Is this what's happening due to the high water pressure experienced in the automatic washes? I know, I know. "Well, Owen, why then don't you just hand wash it, like it deserves -and avoid the issue?" And I would, if I didn't live in the Northeast -and it's winter. :) Any advise on how to solve this problem would be appreciated. The car is getting awfully dirty. Owen 88 M3 92 325, blistered doors, and all ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:25:01 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Fuel Line Leak. Atlanta Area Mechanic? I helped my girlfriend move to Atlanta this weekend. Pleasant weather made for a nice drive, even in the trashy U-Haul with 70 mph axle hop/tramp mode. A little before the move, the 1988 325 iS had been leaking gas from around the filter area and I had replaced all the lines that had hose clamps on both ends both in the engine compartment and in the filter area. Also, I used the BMW clamps that are presumable thinner than the standard NAPA/Murray's ones and clamp 'into' the rubber hose better. There are some hoses with the crimped clamps and I did not replace those. Perhaps that is where the problem is. Monday morning, I found a puddle of fuel on the ground right under the car. Seemed to have sprayed under pressure from the wetting under the car so I'm guessing it is not the tank leaking, but the pressurised post-pump section. Could not tell where since about 100-200 cc of fuel had drenched the subframe, filter and tank in that area. Making sure there was no fuel near the cat and removing the filter cover to allow air to evaporate the fuel off, I started the car and found no fuel spraying out. Two miles later, there was no smell and no spray and everything was dry. My girlfriend drove the car to and from work - about 5 miles - and still no smell and no spray. All clamps appear to be tight. Needless to say, I would like to get the car to a mechanic ASAP to have it seen to. Any recommendations in the Atlanta area would be welcome. My GF lives around the Lindbergh stop on MARTA on Briarcliff and LaVista and the closer the better. Preferably someone who will deal pleasantly with a mechanically fairly understanding, but uninterested individual! Thanks. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC P.S. I cannot look at it because I'm in Detroit and will only go back to Atlanta on 7 Apr. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:37:05 -0500 From: "Lee Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Game officer >From what I understand Game officers are actually Game Wardens & since they are Federal rather than state, they can do what ever they want.. But I could be wrong... Lee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:43:28 -0600 From: "Ron Farrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #513 Don't try it in Arkansas. A wildlife officer has as much authority as an Arkansas State Trooper. Go through the same identical training. I know... I was one. - - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Good for a laugh Ha. Call the police. Ha. It's illegal to impersonate a police officer. Ha. I doubt (although I could be wrong) that a game officer has the right to pull you over and harass you like that. Ha. If it's illegal, bust his ass. Ha. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:47:00 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] ATE Powerslot rotors (E30) Jefrem writes.... << my Ate powerslots warped about the time I looked at them as I was installing them (OK, well, within 60 easy commuting miles). I would *not* recommend them>> Wow. This is a surprise. I installed ATE Powerslots on my 84 325E weekend street/L-Stock race car and after about 5,000 miles (in 18 months) of spirited street driving and 8 track days, they are doing great. Cheap too. About $45.00 ea. for an E30. Carter Hunt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:19:27 -0500 From: "James Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? OK... How do those sheared off teeth make it outside the timing cover and land in the engine compartment? The original post asked, paraphrasing, "Hey, what are these rubber bits in my engine compartment?" Have you ever looked at your engine? Jim Moran '88 M6 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: <E30> Mysterious rubber pieces under hood.. Prob.? > Alex, it is possible for a belt's teeth to be shearing off, but the belt > itself not to have broken. The engine would operate just fine (for a while) > with a few missing timing belt teeth, as many teeth are enaged to each of the > three toothed pulleys at any one time. It's not always an all or nothing > situation. However, it seems fairly obvious that the belt may indeed be due > for replacement, and I would strongly suggest not driving the car until the > engine has been properly inspected to verify what exactly the problem is, and > repaired if necessary. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:09:48 -0600 From: "Craig Lovold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] ATE Powerdisk I have had excellent results with the ATE Powerdisk. They are the elipticaly slotted rotors in the 'star' pattern. I had them on my Dinan modified 528e and they were the only rotors that sttod up to mt abuse without warping. I had big problems with warped rotors until I switched to them. I also have them on my 750iL. So far, so good Craig L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:16:06 -0500 From: "Osterbrink, Mark (AFS-Warren)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Isopropyl vs. Methyl Alcohol Do not use methyl alcohol, it is very nasty stuff and can damage the fuel system. Read the owner's manual - they generally state you can use fuel with up to 15% ethyl alcohol, but less than 5% methyl alcohol. Methyl alcohol is corrosive (CART engines run on methanol, and they have to flush them with gasoline between races or they get destroyed) and attacks most elastomers. I don't think isopropyl has any of these problems. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:54:41 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Roll Bar Foam in colors! >I'm trying to locate a source for high impact roll bar foam. The catch is >I'd like it to match the grey interior of my car (E36M3). Bill over at OG Racing has it. Manassas, VA. Lots of colors. Might even be on their web site www.ogracing.com - - Duane C. The Sled ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:24:21 -0500 From: Jeff Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: (WOB) Posting F1 Results I hope Rob & the monitors will forgive me for posting this as it borders on an <admin> issue. The listserv convention for posting something like this--sporting event result or the end of a movie, book, etc, would be to include the word "spoiler" in the subject line and state what you're doing in the first sentence of the body text. That gives anybody who doesn't want to read the information ample warning to move on to the next message. For example: Subject: *SPOILER* South Pole F1 Results Below I'm posting the results of the Penguin Trophy Grand Prix. If you don't want to know who won please move on to the next message. (Then put a little extra white space before you post the results so the eye doesn't skip ahead on its own.) This way folks who would like to read (and discuss) the results can do so, those who don't want to can use their <DEL> key and everyone will be happy. Of course should the list administrators rule that material of this nature is not appropriate to our list then their wishes should (will) be observed. Rgds jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:34:13 -0500 From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Motronic/DME interchangability Hi all- I know a few of the DME units can be interchanged. However, I have a question about one we are working on. A 525/325 has different part numbers for a car with an automatic transmission and manual. Is there any reason for this and can I just pop an auto computer in a manual car? James http://www.bimmerworld.com Quality Used BMW Parts Engineered BMW Performance (540) 639-9648 Please copy original message text in all correspondences. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:39:07 -0800 From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] ATE Rotors I have had ATE atomic slotted rotors on my '95 540 for over 18 months now. They have seen four days of track school, and five autocrosses. No sign of warpage yet, and they are no where near worn to the bottom of the slots yet. I'm satisfied with them. Now that my wife is driving the E34, those rotors will likely last till the next ice age <bg>. Steve Albrecht '00 540i/6 '95 540iA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:53:15 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re:Dyno Test results needed I am looking for dyno test results for a BMW performance book by R. Bentley. If you have any BMW dyno test results with regard to performance part installation I would like to se them for possible inclusion in this book. I am also looking for modified vehicles that have engine modifications or engine swapping. TIA Henry Noble ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:58:53 -0500 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE:Ford takeover & resale value? I think the pre-Ford BMW's will *increase* in value. Yeah, right. I wish. Zac '94 325i (07/94 build date) - the REAL thing. :) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:39:00 +0200 > From: "William T. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Ford takeover & resale value? > > How do you guys think the Ford takeover effect BMW resale value? > > '00 528i > http://www.geocities.com/emailmeman/home.html > BMWCCA# 177841 > "GOD is good all the time" > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:50:18 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30>M20 10:1 compression OR 2 head gaskets!!? When building your own engine, make sure you check everything yourself. Piston to head clearance should be about 1 mm (0.040 inch) to prevent contact. Too much clearance impairs combustion by reducing turbulence. I see no reason why you can't run 10:1 compression with premium fuel and careful spark and fuel programming. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From what I have read the M20 cannot sustain past > 9.3:1 compression, anyone know why this is so - the > euro 323 runs 9.8:1 stock. Is it possible to add an > extra head gasket to decrease the compression - > anybody know the compressed thickness of a h-gasket? > I am installing a crank that has a 1.8mm longer stroke > -> the piston will travel .9mm closer to the head, > could this result in interference(I have an 11.2mm > lift cam with 280ish duration)? Any help or comments > are much appreciated. > -Kyle > Uncivilized 325is > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #515 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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