[uucdigest] Monday, March 27 2000 Volume 03 : Number 518 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] RE:<E36> locking [uuc] re:Roll Bar High Impact Foam [uuc] cross drilled rotors [uuc] Certification. Reply to Old Post. Re: [uuc] <all> Orange Sanford(?) marker for gauges Re: [uuc] E36 Alignment specs needed Re: [uuc] <E30> tire question Re: [uuc] Re: Slotted Rotors Question Re: [uuc] <E28> 528e tire question Re: [uuc] re:Roll Bar High Impact Foam [uuc] comin' in on a wing and a prayer [uuc] Transmission oil cooler for auto trans - necessary? [uuc] Recommended reading ....on BMW [uuc] right hand drive passenger seatbelts? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:25:50 -0800 From: Dragos Avadanei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE:<E36> locking (yeah, i know, another late reply - i'm catching up though..) owner manuals should have this written somewhere and usually that's the last resource in the process (you know, when all else fails, rtfm). my 93 e34 has it, apparently all 94-onward e34 have it. key closes windows and sunroof, provided the sunroof is opened in the sliding mode. tilt-opened sunroofs are not closed with the key. hope this helps (probably not) dragos > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:59:14 -0500 > From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] RE:<E36> Locking > > Ditto for my 7/94 325i... > :( Sure wish it did though. > > Do ANY 1994-models have key-closing sunroof at all? > Windows, sure. Sunroof no. > > > My 3/94 325is doesn't have this feature either. > > HTH, > > Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:45:20 -0500 From: Chris Pawlowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re:Roll Bar High Impact Foam Peter sez > I'm trying to locate a source for high impact roll bar foam. The > catch is > I'd like it to match the grey interior of my car (E36M3). try a place which sells stuff for refrigeration / cooling pipes ( like for cooling buildings and stuff) grey and black foam padding from those guys is way cheaper than 'roll bar' padding, and just happens to come in the colour you're looking for chris pawlowicz '89 325i '74 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:01:13 EST From: "mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] cross drilled rotors Hello List I have noticed a lot of talk regarding cross drilled rotors and I would like to add my 2 cents...I have had Brembo cross drilled rotors on my car fo 3 years now and not one problem at all and I might add that I have been known to strech the speed limit a little from time to time,so I don't understand why everone else is so negitive towars them...like I said just my 2 cents....Mike.... << Those rotors with the slots in them; useful? Gimmicky? >> I bought them because I thought (but don't know for certain) that they might be a higher quality rotor then some generic make. I do know for the kind of driving most of us do (i.e., driving schools, etc.) the more mass in the rotor the better for heat dissipation. But the difference in price was only $2 so I figured why not buy the gimmick ATE's At the time I did not know that suppliers advertising on this digest carried Baylos which I would have bought without hesitation based on previous experience with this aftermarket supplier. I ground down many pads on my Baylos before I had to replace them after over 150,000 miles. I would never buy cross-drilled rotors and I probably shouldn't have bought the slotted ones but I knew I was going to sell the car and they did look kind of trick. I figured the new owner would never know or care about the truth of slotted rotors (less mass). Fred Callender RMC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:43:46 -0500 From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Certification. Reply to Old Post. Don: I'll answer where I can: "So - if we guess $1 mil for engine/tranny - does this certification carry if the engine tranny is used in multiple models - or does it have to be re-certified say due to things like different exhausts or intake layouts?" The certifications - emissions, etc. - carries. You do not have to certify it for each body style. Different exhaust and intake layouts, usually avoided, have to be re-certified for passby noise. "Then the safety testing - obviously per model I'd think, but does this also have to cover different engines (ie - different crash zones for diff configurations?)" Once again, the body carries. This is the reason the VW guys developed the VR6. They did not want to rearrange the body panels/rails since that would have required recert for crash so they made a 15 degree V instead of the 60 degree and fit it in the body. "What I'm trying to figure out - what does certification cost per car when BMW onlys make a limited number of them?" I'll look into this for clarificaiton, but the 1-2 million figure Ben puts out is what I've heard as an average by the time you get things done. Of course, you could come up with any number of odd combinations, but that is the average. "You said: "its harder to justify large expenditures against small volume variants" - which is why I think a lot of us fear takeover of BMW by a company like Ford.. they just wouldn't get it that small volume variants are part of what makes BMW - BWM. Too much bottom line and too little passion.. (has Ford made a car for 'passion' since the first Mustang? I can't think of one..)" I've resisted the temptation to comment on this merger stuff, but I'll add two things: 1. Ford makes loss/low profit making models to boost image. So does BMW. Image controls profit to an extent. Eventually. 2. The injection of more money into BMW would give it the funding required to develop more models and more motors. Remember how SAAB always claimed their I-4 turbo was as good as any V-6 and then made a V-6 the minute GM took over and the money poured in? I've heard quite a few good things about their V-6. Neil Deshpande 1988 325 iS 1989 325 iC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:51:29 -0800 From: Dog-n-Hog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <all> Orange Sanford(?) marker for gauges Vincent: You can contact United Speedometer (sorry, I don't know the web address). They used to sell lamp "rubbers" in various colors (including orange, red, blue, etc.) and sizes to fit most bulbs out there. I used them to changeover lighting in a chevy truck from green (how awful) to orange. The "rubber" brand was called "Illumirit". They came in packs of six. United's phone number is 1-800-877-4798 GL, Norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I installed the VDO gauges in the former sunglass holder of my e-36 M3 and did > NOT use the red bulb covers as they seemed to make the color too red. I had > heard that an orange Sanford (not sure of the name) marker will get the color > pretty close. After driving around to a few art supply stores I could not come > up with a Sanford marker so I tried another brand's permanent orange marker. In > the end, it is too light even after a number of coats. > > So, if anyone has one of these markers, I would love to borrow it or buy it off > you. Please e-mail me off line of interested. > > Also, if anyone had any luck with cutting little holes in the red bulb cover, > please let me know. Where and how much do you cut? A picture might help. I > already trashed one, so I will need to find a replacement if I go this route. > > Thanks, > Vince > 99 M3 > > *******************Internet Email Confidentiality Footer******************* > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you > are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of > the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. > In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by > reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to > Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other > information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my > firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:20:56 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 Alignment specs needed Negative caster reduces the need for toe-in because the tires tend to roll in a cone, but the standard setting is already very small. Try zero. If the car wanders a bit, add a little toe-in. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's time for my 94 325 to get an alignment, but I'm not sure if I have the > right specs. Car is currently running a 95 M3 suspension with 97 M3 strut > mounts swapped left to right for additonal negative camber. These are the > numbers I had planned on using: > > Front toe: zero - 1/16" in, total (0.00 - 0.12 degree) > > Rear camber: 0.8 - 1.0 degree negative, per side > > Rear toe: 1/16" - 1/8" in, total (0.12 - 0.24 degree) > > But are they still correct with the front camber change? > > Thanks, > Matt M > 94 "325 tds" just back from major surgery, web page will be up shortly! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:43:05 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> tire question Rich, Bill and others. The width of a tire depends on the width of the rim it is mounted on. For every inch change in rim width, the tire section width changes 0.4 inch. 50 series and taller tires are theoretically mounted on a rim that is 70% of the section width. 45 and lower tires are mounted on a rim that is 85% of the section width. When comparing two tires, if one is a 50 and the other is a 45, you have to allow for this difference. A 205/50 is 205 mm (8.07 inch) wide when mounted on a 5.65 inch rim. The measuring rim is 5.5 inches (measuring rims are adjusted to the nearest 1/2 inch) and the tire, when adjusted for the 0.15 inch rim change, measures 8.01 inches. When mounted on a 7.5 inch rim, the 205/50 measures 8.81 inches. A 225/45 is measured on a 7.53 inch rim and measures 8.86 on it and 8.85 when adjusted for the 7.5 inch rim. You can see that it is only 0.04 inches wider than the 205/50 when both are mounted on a 7.5 inch rim. Because the 225/45 is designed for a wider rim, the tire manufacturers typically mold a wider and flatter tread than the 205/50, but the sidewall to sidewall distance is virtually the same. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Then Rich Dorffer spoke: > > I do not claim to be tire guru but isn't a 225/45 roughly > >124 mm wide while a 205/50 roughly 103 mm wide. > >Therefore, the 225/45 tire is approximately > > 21mm wider which would explain the 7.5" rim versus > >the 6.5" rim? >Then Bill Matthews wrote: > HuH? Unless I'm totally confused, 225 vs 205 represents the nominal > width of the tire at the side wall. Nominal being the operative word, as > tire manufacturers round these numbers in bizarre ways. How much tread > is actually on the ground varies also but usually is related to the > sidewall width measurement. A 225 tire is usually about 20 mm wider than > a 205 tire at the sidewall and at the tread. The 45 vs 50 of the second > number is the height of the tire as a percentage of the width. A 225/45 > is roughly 225 mm at the sidewall slightly less at the tread and > 101.25mm measured sidewall height. 205/50 is roughly 205mm at the > sidewall width slightly less at the tread and 102.5mm measured sidewall > height. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:19:33 -0500 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Slotted Rotors Question From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I would have thought the more *surface area*, the better heat > dissipation. That's the idea behind cross drilled, no? > I thought (there I go again) that the whole reason for cross drilled or slotted was to allow for the escape of gas that can be generated by the pad material under extreme braking conditions and cause the pad to "float" off the rotor contributing to brake fade. ??? Bill Matthews Hockessin DE 00 M Geeze some Volvos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:32:17 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> 528e tire question You will not find a really high performance tire in 70 series these days. Even cushy family sedans like Chevy Impala and Ford Taurus have 60 series 16 inch tires. Notice its backordered/special order? Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's about time for new tires. I'm sticking with the stock 14" rims. I'm > inclined to also stick with the stock 195/70 (and obviously R14) size. A > previous owner fitted it with a set of Michelin X Ones, and they're nice > enough tires, but they dry rotted before they wore out! I was hoping to fit > something a little more sporty, but sporty tires don't seem very prevalent in > 195/70 14. Go figure. ;) > > Does anyone have experience with this tire? > > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/conti/co_chv90.htm > > It's the only H rated summer tire I've been able to find in this size. Too bad > too, as I was hoping to fit a set of Bridgestone RE71s... > > Any other suggestions would be appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:25:10 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re:Roll Bar High Impact Foam Roll bar padding is specially designed to absorb energy when hit. Insulation is not designed for this purpose and may cause your helmet to bounce off the bar. This will double the G load on your brain. Not a good idea. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Peter sez > > I'm trying to locate a source for high impact roll bar foam. The > > catch is > > I'd like it to match the grey interior of my car (E36M3). > > try a place which sells stuff for refrigeration / cooling pipes ( like > for cooling buildings and stuff) > > grey and black foam padding from those guys is way cheaper than 'roll > bar' padding, and just happens to come in the colour you're looking for > > > chris pawlowicz > '89 325i > '74 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Walrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] comin' in on a wing and a prayer I posted a day ago that I couldn't keep the transmission in fifth after finding the sheetmetal console was floppy loose and bolting it back down. I have parts coming in on the UPS truck tomorrow but suspect that Gary Derian is correct and that I have a bent fifth gear selector fork and that these parts won't fix it. However: As an old VW mech who has driven farther and longer than you might suspect with a bungie cord holding the shifter back into fourth (shifting was not a casual affair) I am not without my ways. By dint of 3/16" of shim between the isolator blocks and the transmission I am now able to keep it in all five gears. Granted, second and fourth gear selections end up with the shiftknob back by my hip.... But we are off to the Oriental rug confrence in San Francisco. If you should happen to see a black '83 533i rolling South from Oregon tomorrow and early Wednesday give a wave - I'll be the one fantasizing that my Fokker is held together with chewing gum and willpower. If I don't make it - I salute you! (thanks Gary) Tom _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:45:45 SGT From: "Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Transmission oil cooler for auto trans - necessary? Hey everyone, I was wondering if I should have an oil cooler for the Steptronic transmission on my E46 328i installed since I attend track events every month. I'm guessing that by the very nature of their design auto transmissions produce more heat and I'm worried that this might lead to premature failure if I'm redlining my car for prolonged periods of time on a regular basis. I would appreciate anyone's thoughts on this and a pointer to any resources that might be available. TIA, Eugene '99 BMW 328i Step ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:49:35 -0000 From: "BMW Bits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Recommended reading ....on BMW Warning ..this is NOT a 'pretty pictures' book, it is serious reading .... BMW Story ..A Company in it's time by H Monnich ...on sale at www.Chaters.co.UK in UK for 5.99 pounds sterling (was 25 pounds =$40 US ). Heavy-duty reading material about the company from its founding up til 1990 .Pictures of Emperors , Fuhrers and factories NOT cars . While there look at other books Chaters have on BMW ..some interesting titles that 'seem' to hint at maintenance manuals but give NO content description.Also 'Driving Ambition'..'the official inside story of the McLaren F1 for 30 quid for those of you who cant seem to 'scratch ' a cool $1M for the real thing. Watch those 4pounds and up shipping costs tho'!! Neat Xmas prezzies ..think ahead !! Bill Proud ,in cool WET Seattle ..now with the King-HOLE where the KingDOME used to was... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:11:51 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] right hand drive passenger seatbelts? I like how the seatbelt locks for the passenger's side. Then I was thinking [no wise cracks]. I'd like to have the same mechanism on the driver's side but I'm sure the left and right side reels are different. Since my American spec car does not have locking reel on the driver's side. What about one from an E36 that is right hand drive? That should work, shouldn't it? Would there be pyro involved in swapping them? ...steven mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://318ti.org Germantown, MD ---> Dealer Service comments http://www.servicecounts.net 1998 318ti Arrest Me Red Sport 'FUN2DRV' National Capital Chapta w/ open air roof, armrest, lower lip, rear spoiler, Z3 spiral antenna vented front rotors, kevlar ss brakelines, xbrace, braless, paint chips Z3 1.9 shift lever w/ lighted knob and euro-intermittent wiper module My memory is so bad that I get lost on a skid pad. (c) 1999 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #518 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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