[uucdigest] Tuesday, March 28 2000 Volume 03 : Number 527 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] remove [uuc] Re: <e28> M5 control arm bushings [uuc] For Sale BMW OEM M3 Forged wheel [uuc] Re: <E28> wiring headlights [uuc] Re: Speeding, Valentine & Arrogance Re: [uuc] <E28> wiring headlights Re: [uuc] <E28> wiring headlights [uuc] Musings on an E34 M5 engine in my E36 Re: [uuc] Euro Headlamps answer and question [uuc] Re: <E28> M5 bushings Re: [uuc] Re: <E28> wiring headlights [uuc] Testing Brake Components [uuc] Mounting tires on BMW wheels [uuc] American LeMans Series at Charlotte [uuc] Re: Testing Brake Components [uuc] FS: 15" wheels for 5/6/7-series [uuc] re: weight loss ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:18:21 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] remove What was that about a *real* provider? ;-) Directions to s*bscribe or uns*bcribe are (and always have been) available at www.uucdigest.com You found it to get here, please find it again to leave. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: [uuc] remove > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:16:24 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <e28> M5 control arm bushings At 03:43 PM 3/28/00 -0800, Shiv Sikand wrote: >I was trying to establish if they have the same procedure for >modification and whether or not there is any known quality or >performance issue with one compared to the other. The modification involves removing metal from the inner portion of the mount. Seems a lathe would be involved and not a lot else. If the end result (ie - dimensions) are the same, I'd find it difficult to think of any other difference you might notice. >I know they both start from the same point, I was interested to know if >one can tell the difference from an engineering standpoint. Same size, same beginnings, same result. Less cost from Steve. >Dinan may not be known for his prices or friendliness, but no one I know >faults his technical capabilities and quality of work. Actually, I've heard a few comments on the above topics, back in the old daze of the Welty list, but - may have just been disgruntled people who felt they were overcharged (from memory - I believe this was the complaint). >Thanks, >Shiv BTW - put a set of Steve's bushings in my '92 525i back at the very first NJ get-together, which Steve organized. They worked very nicely. The 525i could use unmodified bushings from a 7 series.. but I seem to remember Dinan was selling these for quite a bit more than BMW sold them to you over the counter. Like I said - sombody has gotta pay for all that 'staging' stuff and advertising. Best, Don ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:21:13 -0600 From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] For Sale BMW OEM M3 Forged wheel Hi ya'll, I have one too many wheels and not enough space, please help me and buy this wheel. BMW OEM Forged and polished M3 5 spoke wheel, style 24 M, the current style. 17x8.5, Mint condition. One wheel only. $355.00 Firm, plus shipping or can arrange delivery in the chicago area. Chris, Windy City Club ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:42:49 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E28> wiring headlights I wrote: > > switch a Hella 15A relay, and even when the relay engages, the fault > indicator lights up. I imagine the fault system detects amperage, and when it > drops below a certain point, it alerts the driver, and the relay isn't pulling > enough amperage to satisfy this requirement. > > If I'm wrong here, please enlighten me (no pun intended). If I'm correct, I > imagine others have run into this very same problem. How did you solve it? Oh. Duh. I'll wire a resistor in line with the switching power for the low beam relays. I'd already planned to run four relays, one fused for 15 amps for each 80 watt low beam, and one fused for 30 amps for two 100 watt high beams on each side. But if someone had a _different_ solution, I'm all ears, er, eyes. :) ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 2000 17:31:01 -0800 From: Gleb Arshinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Speeding, Valentine & Arrogance >>>>> "Alex" == Fadeev, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alex> So the moral of the story is: even if some #@%$ calls you in Alex> over the phone/CB, the cops can not issue a ticket unless Alex> they personally witnessed the event? True or false? I am not a lawyer, but here's how I understand it. Case 1: Officer sees your doing something naughty. Officer later testifies in court that he saw you doing something naughty. You say you did not do the naughty thing. Court has to believe officer over you, since officer is a trained naughtiness observer. Case 2: Concerned citizen sees your doing something naughty. The state would have to concerned citizen come to court and testify (not likely to happen). Further, if you deny doing the naughty, it is concerned citizen's word of yours which is not enough proof. Counterpoint: In many police departments it is a standard policy to have officers give tickets to everyone involved in any accident, including accidents that officer did not witness. The state has almost no chance of conviction on these, assuming you are properly represented. They just want all the parties to show up in court to make sure that civil matters have been properly settled. Did I mention that I was not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice? Gleb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:41:58 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> wiring headlights I solved it by using the completely stock wiring which can handle 85W/100W low beams and 100W high beams with an upgrade to a 16A fuse. (NOTE: this is not recommended for any chassis other than E28). When they say "they don't build them like they used to" they were referring to the E28. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> wiring headlights > I'm ready to install a set of E-code lamps, and I'm building a totally over > the top wiring harness with 12 gauge power leads to the relays, bulbs, and > ground. My problem stems from the fact that I don't see how to wire the relays <snip> > If I'm wrong here, please enlighten me (no pun intended). If I'm correct, I > imagine others have run into this very same problem. How did you solve it? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:00:11 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> wiring headlights Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: > I solved it by using the completely stock wiring which can handle 85W/100W > low beams and 100W high beams with an upgrade to a 16A fuse. (NOTE: this is > not recommended for any chassis other than E28). Cheater!! :) One of the reasons I'm keen to upgrade the wiring is that I've measured a 1.1 volt drop between the battery and the left lights, and a 1.2 volt drop between the battery and the right lights. I tore a bunch of connections apart, cleaned stuff, put it back together with dielectric grease, and... same thing. :p I'm chalking it up to skinny wires. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 17:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: Joshua Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Musings on an E34 M5 engine in my E36 Hi all, I've been daydreaming lately about 1 very special thing: the possibility of shoehorning an E34 M5 engine into my E36 M3. Now before anyone responds: "why the hell would you want to swap out that wonderful S50 engine" - I'll preface this by saying this is purely fantasyland (for now...) Anyways, I'd like to have a couple questions answered: What does the E34 M5 engine weigh (and for that matter, what does the S50 weigh)? I'm wondering how the weight difference would affect (ruin?) the wonderful vehicle dynamics of my car. Would it fit in my E36? Where the heck can I find this engine? What does a low mileage one go for? Does anyone know if this has been done before? Thanks to everyone who indulges my fantasy. Josh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:57:25 -0600 From: "Daniels, Jason S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Euro Headlamps answer and question John, Bad luck with the PIAA super whites? I love mine, one car is an 88 325ic and the other is a 94 530it. they really shine out further and are much ore crisp (no blue) Maybe it's just the older styly lights that they wirk better in. .02cents worth. Jason Daniels 94 530ita 88 325ica 74 2002 tii 85 volvo 740 turbo int cool. > In my humble opinion in closing, stay away from the PIAA > superwhites, which have shown a 15% reduction in off center light area > and coverage combined. Ooops, I have them on my car, because I can't > justify such expense as sending headlights on that California trip. I am > therefore a hypocrite, actually.. but one day xenon will rule! Argon? > Your're right, I am..good luck! John 96 328ic ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:59:46 -0500 From: Filippo Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E28> M5 bushings Shiv, >It's time for me to go the 750 bushing route...Mr Dinan wants $99 a pop, >while Steve'D is charging a far more reasonable $30... > >Can anyone guide me here ? Standard 750 bushing turned down a smidge work just fine. I actually bought them and did the machining myself so I can tell you firsthand that there no magic here. Spend $30 and enjoy the greater longevity and reduction in unwanted front wheel deflection. Steve D' doesn't sell crap. [in a later note, Shiv writes...] > Dinan may not be known for his prices or friendliness, but no one I know > faults his technical capabilities and quality of work. Try a forced induction kit from Dinan, then write back with your results. I've also know someone that's lost several S14 (E30 M3) engines provided by Dinan. Everyone has problems, and to Dinan's credit, I must say they dealt with the problems. Cheers, Filippo ///M ///M ///M ///M ///M ///M ///M www.bimmers.com = = ( ) ( ) = = "Supporting enthusiasts on the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:15:17 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <E28> wiring headlights I wrote: > I wrote: > Oh. Duh. I'll wire a resistor in line with the switching power for the low > beam relays. Eeek! I mean in parallel with... (okay, I'll stop replying to my own posts now) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:01:24 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Testing Brake Components Try this with your PowerDisks..... Porsche's Test Procedure for the turbo brake components (courtesy of Jan 2000 Christophorus magazine): 1. Accelerate to 90% of top speed (approx 170mph for the new turbo) and brake at 80% of maximum decelaration to 60mph. Immediately afterward, back up to 170mph (in an average of 32 seconds) and repeat the braking to 60mph. This keeps the internally vented brake disks almost permanently red hot.....the brakes must undergo this stop-and-go cycle 25 consecutive times. 2. Replace the pads and measure the disks. Porsche engineers found approx 1mm wear in the pads and the disk thickness within manufacturing tolerances. 3. Now step up the regimen, this time applying maximum deceleration in the anti-lock system zone. After 6 of these cycles without incident of fade or failure, the test is concluded and the the brakes deemed acceptable for road use. Steve D'Gerolamo, Mov'it North America ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 2000 18:21:21 -0800 From: Gleb Arshinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Mounting tires on BMW wheels Worthless trivia follows. So, I got a new set of rubbers mounted today (hmm...) New set of Pilot Sports on M-Contour II wheels. Talked to the mechanic afterwards, and he was saying that mounting tires on BMW wheels is a bitch. Gotta use tons of lube and be patient, he said (hmm...). The shop uses all the right Hunter equipment. It is not the low profile rubber with stiff sidewall, but BMW wheel design that make it hard. Apparently, those huge rear tires on Viper are actually pretty easy (they had R compounds mounted on viper wheels waiting for a client there). M3 wheels are pretty bad. The worst are "throwing star" M-roadster wheels. According to the mechanic, when one of those shows up "everybody in the shop runs away." The way I understood it, with these wheels you actually have to (dis)mount the tires from the back side of the wheel. Gleb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:28:45 -0500 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] American LeMans Series at Charlotte Anyone out there going to be at the American LeMans Series race this weekend as the BMW LMR and the PTG Team run in the Grand Prix of Charlotte at the Lowe's Motor Speedway? The 2 hr. 45 min race begins at 3pm Saturday April 1 (no, this is not a joke). Practice and qualifying, of course, take place over the preceeding days. - -Phil Marx BMW CCA #6021 ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 2000 18:29:28 -0800 From: Gleb Arshinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Testing Brake Components >>>>> "SD" == Steve D'Gerolamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SD> Try this with your PowerDisks..... Porsche's Test Procedure SD> for the turbo brake components (courtesy of Jan 2000 SD> Christophorus magazine): I am not sure I understand. Is this done once for the whole 996 turbo line of cars, or is this done for every instance of 996 turbo produced. If it is the former, it does not seem sufficient. If it the latter, it seems excessive. Gleb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:31:45 -0500 From: Howard K Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FS: 15" wheels for 5/6/7-series Set of four OEM 7JX15 'flying saucer' wheels off early 750i for sale. These are very light, strong wheels make by Fuchs, recently refinished, with new center caps, and have absolutely zero scratches or scrapes (they have never touched a curb since refinished). Gives a nice 'Euro' look for E12 and E28 5-series, and E24 6-series. Boxed and ready to go. $500, and I'll cover 48-state shipping. Can send pics to interested parties. Ken Mitchell Durham, NC 919/416-3820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P.M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (weekdays) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:37:45 -0500 From: Ron Katona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: weight loss Andy T wrote: > > weight target of 1000kg > > That'll be the day :). > I saw a show on Speedvision the other day featuring the Lotus Elise. I can't recall the exact numbers, but the entire bare body shell and chassis weighs something like 250 lb! The front and rear body clamshells are composites and weigh about 75 lb. The bonded extruded aluminum chassis is about 180 lb. There's about 1250 lb of running gear and interior bits bolted to that chassis and body. The point is that CAD/CAM, technical innovations in materials, and a minimalist design philosophy can really accomplish miracles. Hey, if Lotus can do 700 kg cars, then 1000 kg doesn't seem so difficult. Now, if you're asking if today's BMW (Big Mother on Wheels) can build a sports car that weighs less than a ton and a half to two tons or so, well then yeah, that'll be the day! I hope to hell they prove us wrong because the thought of a 2200 lb, 240 hp BMW makes my guibo spin if ya know what I mean. - -- Ron Katona ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #527 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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