[uucdigest] Wednesday, March 29 2000 Volume 03 : Number 530 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: F1 naming conventions (BMW/Williams or Williams/BMW) Re: [uuc] <E34> Instrument cluster OBC display problem [uuc] Mid-Atlantik '02 Fest I - Scenic Routes [uuc] RE: BMW new release - not more SAV's! [uuc] <misc>Wilma Dikfit Re: [uuc] Re: Euro E36 seat belts, weight loss and Saab motors Re: [uuc] <E36><M3>Silly Oil Question [uuc] BMW X5 Le Mans Re: [uuc] Re: E28 M5 shop visit....opinions? BA Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest]E28 M5 shop visit....opinions? Re: [uuc] You be the Cop Re: [uuc] re: weight loss Re: [uuc] Mounting tires on BMW wheels ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 03:01:53 -0800 From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: F1 naming conventions (BMW/Williams or Williams/BMW) There are no hard and fast rules (and even when there are, they're often times loosely applied), but one word generally explains this: context. It all depends on the source and the intended audience. In the context of the marketing pitch for the general public, the primary sponsor is of course granted the most prominent position, hence all the PR, websites, team hats, shirts and other paraphernalia will prominently feature BMW. In the context of the FIA, Williams are still the constructors, and BMW is still the engine supplier, so you're more likely to see Williams listed first in documents issued from officialdom, like official results and such. The FIA is quite strict with regard to the chassis/constructor rules. I vaguely recall Larousse/Lola being penalized years ago for violating these rules. OTOH, there is a lot more leeway with regard to engines, hence Mercedes (Ilmor), Petronas (Ferrari), Playlife/Supertec (Renault), Jaguar/Ford (Cosworth) and Mugen (Honda) engines. The names of the entrants is similar, hence BMW WilliamsF1, West McLaren Mercedes, Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, etc. BAR has some ludicrously long name incorporating all of the sponsors. The average joe/casual fan won't know or care what any of it means and will just digest whatever the marketing folks feed to them (taken to extremes, you get Nascar). Diehards will look for a clearer interpretation. Herman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:19:35 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Instrument cluster OBC display problem Alex: Each of the failed displays that you mention is backlight with standard automotive dash lightbulbs. (total of 4 in this case). They are easily replaced once the instrument cluster is removed. On an E34, this generally requires removing the steering wheel. Not difficult, but needs to be done with very specific procedure given the presence of the airbag. If you are not an experienced DIYer, take to the dealer, they do this type of repair all the time. Dana Earl 89 535i (with lots of new bulbs in the instrument cluster, did it myself) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:53:07 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Mid-Atlantik '02 Fest I - Scenic Routes Fellow '02ers! Thanks to David Roach of Silver Spring, MD (via his very detailed description on the Bay Area '02 Website), all attendees now have some outstanding routes to travel on their way to and from Mid-Atlantik '02 Fest I (April 29, 2000). Please go to www.bayarea02.com and click on Amy Hooper's articles on "great drives" for 2002's. Thanks David!!!!!!!!!!! See you all there!....and Happy '02ing! John Weese BMW CCA #76646 Event Organizer: Mid-Atlantik '02 Fest I(Shenandoah River State Park, Route 340 Bentonville, VA, all day April 29, 2000)...(rain date May 6th). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:27:16 -0500 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: BMW new release - not more SAV's! Ahh... I like this. Bold and daring. ..build a better mouse-trap and all that. Heck, maybe could bring back the ix under this new "umbrella" Zach '94 325i w/sports pkg. 5-spd. Sharked. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:42:37 -0500 > From: "Peter Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] BMW new release - not more SAV's! > > From DLJDirect's news wire this morning: > > > > MUNICH, March 28 (Reuters) - German car maker BMW AGBMWG.F > hinted on Thursday it could take on rival Ford Motor Co F.N by > developing an entire range of sports utility vehicles following > the sale of its Land Rover division to the U.S. group. > The group said its BMW brand X5 sports activity vehicle > could be used to pioneer a range that could give it a stronger > presence in one of the car market's fastest growing sectors. > "I would not like to preclude the possibility, to put it in > somewhat reserved terms, that the X5 might well become the > father of an entire model series," BMW chairman Joachim Milberg > told a news conference. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 04:29:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc>Wilma Dikfit Ken wrote: So I got a recharger kit for my K&N filter and was nauseated to see that the oils contain animal oil! ================================================ Psst! shhhhhhhhhh! Dont ANYONE tell him where the leather seats come from! ;-) Ron Browne Bowie, MD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:35:37 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Euro E36 seat belts, weight loss and Saab motors "Thomas, Andrew j" wrote: > Steven ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > > Do right hand drive E36s have what is called 'child protection' > > seat belt? > > I'm assuming by "Euro" you mean LHD and RHD cars (RHD for UK and Eire only, > although I think Malta drives "that way" too). There was no mention of a > "child protection" seat belt in my 1995, RHD E36 owner's manual, only a > section on how to fit child seats to the front or back (passenger airbag was > not standard in this market for '95). The only concession to size was a > fitment that allowed the vertical adjustment of the upper belt anchor on the > B-pillar, but this was present on the driver's side too. Plus, of course, > the usual inertia-reel arrangement and a device that fired in the event of > an accident, retracting the seal belt down tight. I belive that the feature in discussion here is ALR - Automatic Locking Restraint. it's the function that locks the ratcheting reel in the retractor when you pull the seatbelt all the way out, which then allows you to use the belt to lock in a child seat. it is/was standard on all non-driver seating positions in US market vehicles. (I say 'was" because it may have been eliminated for front passenger seats due to airbag concerns with childseats. the theory is that you get a RHD passenger (left hand side) belt assembly as a substitute for a dedicated harness set-up. > Ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > possibility of all alloy body to keep weight down despite > > the cost penalty, rather than steel body with alloy subframes, > > suspension & brakes. > > I can buy the subframe, suspension and brake theory, but I wonder about the > validity of the alloy chassis. This car will have to be cheaper than, or as > cheap as, the 3 series, and previous use of expensive spaceframe technology > has not shown huge weight advantage so far. Audi's alloy A2 is very light, > at under 1000kg, but it's a still a small car that wouldn't weigh much more > if it was made of steel. actually in AutoCar (22 March) they note "Audi says the 895kg A2 comes in 150kg below what it would be built in conventional steels." The A2 is an alloy spaceframe with non-structural hung-on alloy panels. just more information... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:21:58 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36><M3>Silly Oil Question >So, what's up with this? Bentley says 6, my owner's manual >says 6. My geezermobile 540i takes 8, *not* the sveldt M3! >Any wisdom (or wit) welcome. ;~) Yes weird, my car always took 7 quarts with a new filter and I added 1 quart over for fun days at SIR/Bremerton. Bentley must be on crack to say 6. Maybe you got lucky and someone installed a competition oil pan in that bad boy. So...is SIR more fun in an M3 than a fiver? >8^) Carlos 91 M3 ...counting down to Putnam Motor City Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:40:05 +0200 From: "Garcia, Miguel F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] BMW X5 Le Mans Please check this web site A real 4x4 rocket specs: 12V cylinders, 700HP, 720Nm at 5000 rpm, max speed 173 miles/hour. Sorry. it is in spanish. http://www.coches.net/noticias/noticia.cfm?codigo=99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:44:26 -0500 From: Eurowerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: E28 M5 shop visit....opinions? BA Brett, Here here!!! I could not agree more.... I also run a shop, and if someone questioned those prices on that type of car....c'ya!!! The labor rate is 70% of what it should be and the parts are very fair....Knowing, or at least thinking that J. Chyo is in California, there is no way that anyone on the west coast could get this work done from a reputable shop for those prices. NO WAY!!! How could any of you question these prices??? For those of you without the "M" versions of these great cars, you could probably understand these prices. For those of you with the "M" versions, this should seem way too cheap. Brett Anderson wrote: > > From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [uuc] E28 M5 shop visit....opinions? > > > > OK, my friend has an 88M5 with 175 grand on it. > > >Please let me know your collective thoughts on > >1)part prices > > Realistic. > > >2)labor costs > > They seem low, but you don't give the shops labour rate. If the labour rate > is above $45 per hour, then these prices are cheap. > > >4)the mechanics statement that he will not do the work > > unless he gets the parts at his mark up. > > There's a problem with that ? A business can't survive without X gross > profit. You get two choices, you pay the business that profit partially in > parts, partially in labour, or you pay it all in labour. > > I charge $65 per hour on parts I supply, $125 per hour on parts you supply. > > > He is a bit weary of spending a > > bunch of mulah on this car because it is in such bad shape. It is a > > shame....really....this M5 has shot interior, dented up panels, etc. > > It is a shame. Get this moron out of this car and into the 1983 Ford Escort > that he deserves. > > Brett Anderson > www.koalamotorsport.com > Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual - -- Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 606-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.euromajic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:46:47 -0500 From: Eurowerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest]E28 M5 shop visit....opinions? What version of Bilstein??? The cheaply offered discount chain version or the actual H.D. version? Shiv Sikand wrote: > The Bilsteins are available for $92 dollars each. So, the mechanic is > charging almost double. Bit high, IMHO... > > --Shiv - -- Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 606-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.euromajic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:55:09 -0500 From: Eurowerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] You be the Cop Be very careful doing this sort of thing....when you do appear in court, the perpetrator has the opportunity to find out who you are, and then all sorts of fun things could potentially happen. If someone has actually made you crash, or run you off the road, or pulled a gun on you, then maybe...but if it's just a little road rage that you are having, get over it. Is it really worth multiple flat tires, or your siblings being threatened, or your car being keyed???? Only you can be the judge.... Duane Collie wrote: > >So the moral of the story is: even if some #@%$ calls you in over the > >phone/CB, the cops can not issue a ticket unless they personally witnessed > >the event? True or false? > >alex f > > Alex, > > It depends on the state. > > Here in the great Commonwealth of Virginia, you - as an outraged John Q. > Citizen - can go swear out a complaint against Billy Bob Reckless to the > local Magistrate and in effect, make an arrest if the police decide your > story has even a whisper of merit when they review it. The cops will then > have Billy Bob come to the station for an interview and 'arrest' him, > usually releasing him on his own recognizance and a summons to appear in > court. The State's Attorney does the prosecuting of the case, with John Q. > as the star witness. > > Now, John Q. has to be able to identify (pick out) the arresstee in court, > and the police WILL issue John Q. a subpoena to appear (just in case he > wanted to make a vengence play and then dissapear on the court date). > > But yes, it's doable in VA. Other states will vary. So its wise to be > careful of who you cut off as you speed on by in my part of the world! > > - Duane Collie - -- Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 606-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.euromajic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:05:49 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re: weight loss the most extreme case of this is the new Caterham R500. specs are : 1.8l four cyl 230bhp at 8600 rpm 155lb ft at 7200rpm 11.5:1 compression 6 speed trans / 3.62 final drive / 6th is 1.00 / max speed 145mph 0-30mph - 1.6 sec (0.2 faster than McLaren F1 road car) 0-60 - 3.4 sec (0.2 slower than F1) 0-100 - 8.1 sec quarter mile - 11.9 sec @ 117mph 30-70 thru the gears - 2.6 sec 60-100 (in 4th) - 5.0 sec 70-90 (in 4th) - 2.3 sec (same as McLaren F1) �32,200 ($52,486) fully built, on the road curb weight - 450kg (990 lbs) 511bhp/ton you could very likely have one of these here in the states for less than $50k as you could buy the rolling chassis & put the engine in yourself & would avoid some of the UK taxes. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:20:55 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Mounting tires on BMW wheels There is a design feature of BMW wheels that helps to keep the bead seated in case of a flat. You have to break the bead at 2 points 180 degrees apart. If you don't understand that and know where those points are, then yes, its hard. Otherwise, its like any other wheel. They should read the factory service literature once in a while. Jim Gleb Arshinov wrote: > > Worthless trivia follows. > >According to the mechanic, when > one of those shows up "everybody in the shop runs away." The way I > understood it, with these wheels you actually have to (dis)mount the > tires from the back side of the wheel. > > Gleb ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #530 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
