[uucdigest] Monday, April 3 2000 Volume 03 : Number 563 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] E30 M3 gas mileage [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] RE: [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] Re: [uuc] Cat/exhaust for 88 M5 [uuc] Re: Plastic Impeller Re: [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] [uuc] **GARAGE SALE** Re: [uuc] E30 M3 gas mileage [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? Re: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? [uuc] E36 front stress bars [uuc] Re: 328 vs. M3 [uuc] Ron's Ticket [uuc] RE: Phaedrus-2002/M3 [uuc] RE: E28M5 tranny noise [uuc] Re: E36 front stress bars ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:11:51 -0400 From: "Bryan Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E30 M3 gas mileage Michael W. said: <<Not too many Bimmers sighted along Rt 57 once you get out of Chicago, but when I did see one, I gave them the headlight flash. The only ones who responded were the ones driving older models, including another E30 M3.>> Ha, don't be flashing your lights at any silver E36 M3's if you are in the NC area. Chances are you'll see instant deceleration from 80 mph to the 70 mph speed limit (after I check my rearview for traffic of course). I always try to use something other than lights to salute other bimmers. Lights too often mean that there is a cop sitting in wait ahead. - -Bryan Watts 95 M3, tests the brakes every time someone flashes their lights. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:14:00 -0400 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] I have a '94 325i (build date 07/94) that I bought after it came off a lease in Florida. How do I know or tell if it has a limited slip differential? thanks Zach > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:09:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] 325/328 or m3? > > Duane Collie sez [of 325s/328s vs m3s]: > > >Now, after all that you STILL don't have the M3 > brakes > >(major difference), > >the larger engine of the M3, the Limited Slip Rear > >End, the body fascia > >parts, the M3 seats, and the resale value of an M3 > vs. > >a souped up 325/28. > > Actually, some e36 325i's came with limited slip > differentials. My 1992 came with a limited slip, > production date 11/91. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 03:19:43 -0400 From: "Ken Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] Get under the car and on the rear differential, the serial number should begin with a "S" if you have limited slip. I was once told that if you have heated seats then your car probably has limited slip, but this may be an old wise tale. Ken Ross - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of George, Zachariah (CICG Development) Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 3:14 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] I have a '94 325i (build date 07/94) that I bought after it came off a lease in Florida. How do I know or tell if it has a limited slip differential? thanks Zach > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:09:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] 325/328 or m3? > > Duane Collie sez [of 325s/328s vs m3s]: > > >Now, after all that you STILL don't have the M3 > brakes > >(major difference), > >the larger engine of the M3, the Limited Slip Rear > >End, the body fascia > >parts, the M3 seats, and the resale value of an M3 > vs. > >a souped up 325/28. > > Actually, some e36 325i's came with limited slip > differentials. My 1992 came with a limited slip, > production date 11/91. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:32:39 -0700 From: Tom Childers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Cat/exhaust for 88 M5 I would not bother with a used cat...they wear out, clog up and start to rattle. An aftermarket cat works great, and costs a lot less than stock ($350?) Rob's M5 exhaust is fantastic. I got it installed with an aftermarket cat, and it sounds great without being offensively loud. You can really tell that you have a DOHC engine. If you want to buy my OEM exhaust, in good condition, e-mail me privately. - -tdc Andrew Skopp wrote: >I am getting prepared to bite the bullet and replace both the slowly dying >catalytic converter and exhaust from the cat back on my 88 M5. All advice >and suggestions are appreciated. Some questions: > >1. Any thoughts on buying a used catalytic converter? >2. Any thoughts on aftermarket versus OEM? >3. Are M6 cats and exhausts interchangeable w/ M5? >4. I've done an M5 exhuast install, but not a cat install. How difficult is >the cat? For a basis of comparison, I'd rate the exhaust install about a 3 >on scale of 1 (easy) to 10 (hard). >5. How are people liking Rob Levinson's M5 exhaust? (Rob, do you have any >more available? Can I commission one if I go that route?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:37:08 PDT From: "Tim Gergen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Plastic Impeller If you remove the thermostat housing, at least on a 95 M3, you will be able to see down to the water pump. You will see the shaft of it, and barely see the blades. If it is plastic, you will see the plastic shaft. Mine was cracked, but not yet slipping when I replaced it....close call. Maybe you should do a coolant change, and look and see. Tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:33:04 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE:LSD's on some e36 325i's [Was:325/328 vs M3] Jack up the rear so both tires are off the ground. Put the trans in gear or park to lock the driveshaft. Spin one rear tire, if the other rear tire turns the opposite direction, you have an open differential (no limited slip). If the tire won't turn, place the trans in neutral and try again. If both rear tires turn the same direction, you do have limited slip. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a '94 325i (build date 07/94) that I bought > after it came off a lease in Florida. How do I know > or tell if it has a limited slip differential? > > thanks > Zach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:55:13 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] **GARAGE SALE** Well its spring time and i need to clean up some space in my garage. I have the following items for sale. ***(E-36)**** Stock Head Lights-$100 or b/o Momo Steering Wheel w/hub $175 Remus Dual Exhaust with c/f tips $200 Drop in K&N Air Filter $20 Factory Radiator (Used) $100 ***(E-30)**** 1991 325i 70,000 miles Complete Head $700 Transmission (auto) $600 Differential (4:11 Limited Slip) $450 ***(MISC)**** Kenwood Excelon CD Player W/remote $275 (KDC-X711) www.kenwood.com 4-Pirelli P-Zero Racing Slicks 245-40-17R with 50% Rubber Left . First $350 takes them. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 15:01:52 -0500 From: Michael Weishaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 M3 gas mileage I thought it was on/off with the lights to signal a cop. That is what I have always seen. Besides, I only flash E36 M3s from behind. *ducks* :) Michael Bryan Watts wrote: > > Ha, don't be flashing your lights at any silver E36 M3's if you are in the > NC area. Chances are you'll see instant deceleration from 80 mph to the 70 > mph speed limit (after I check my rearview for traffic of course). I always > try to use something other than lights to salute other bimmers. Lights too > often mean that there is a cop sitting in wait ahead. > > -Bryan Watts > 95 M3, tests the brakes every time someone flashes their lights. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:09:52 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? >but nothing tops: >1 penis enlarger pump (I am not kidding, I have witnesses) - >could have >been adapted into an ok brake bleeder.... >Craig Lovold Hmm... You say you got the car in Chicago? Might be Jim Powell's old pimp-mobile. Better wash those hands again. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:17:13 -0700 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Whadja find in dere? Nahhh! I was Californicator pimp. Besides, I brought all my BMWs from the midwest with me when I moved out here :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hmm... You say you got the car in Chicago? Might be Jim Powell's old > pimp-mobile. Better wash those hands again. > > Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 15:48:13 -0500 From: "Rob Norwalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 front stress bars Has anyone else seen the front stress bar in the new Bavarian catalog? I know the UUC and JTD bars are both excellent, but the picture in the catalog shows two aluminum tubes with various compound bends that are WELDED directly to to the circular strut tower mounting flanges. It's not the prettiest looking thing, but looks effective (no hinges, simple as it gets), and is relatively inexpensive - like $179 for an E36. I don't see any down side to this (I don't give cosmetic appearance much priority) - do you? Rob 93 -325 _______________________________ Rob Norwalk Raytheon Systems Company Vc:219.429.4737 Fx:219.429.5004 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:09:41 -0500 From: "Rob Norwalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: 328 vs. M3 Something I haven't seen mentioned in this thread, that makes a significant difference, is the _other_ things that are different in the front geometry of the two cars... If you want your 325 or 328 to emulate the performance of the M3, you should consider: 1. M3 upper strut bearings (offset for more camber) 2. M3 rear control arm bushings (95's are offset and voidless) 3. M3 front control arms (stiffer ball joints) As the good folks at TC Kline pointed out, and I can now personally attest, these components will _dramatically_ change the feel of the car. You can replace springs, shocks and swaybars 'til the cows come home, and you'll still be trying to figure out why your turn in isn't as crisp as your buddy's M3. If you really want to sharpen the handling on your E36, save the money you would spend on adjustable camber plates (use shims at the bottom of the strut instead) and put it into 1,2 & 3 above. You will be happy... Rob 93 325 - steers like an M3 - finally _______________________________ Rob Norwalk Raytheon Systems Company Vc:219.429.4737 Fx:219.429.5004 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:10:18 -0400 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Ron's Ticket >He comes back to the car, gives me a citation for >illegal level of tint per Va statuates, and a "failure >to obey highway sign-55mph limit" for my perceived >moving violation. Ron, Well ya got off halfway or so.....not bad. What he did in the 'failure to obey highway sign" was give you what is considered a non-moving violation, which looks a whole lot better on any DMV report than a speeding ticket. It's also carries one less point than a general speeding ticket. What that really amounts to is a fine rather than something that will give your insurance guy cause to whack your rates. "Failure to obey a highway sign" can mean you parked in a "No Parking" zone, or did not merge correctly, etc., and has a wealth of interpretations. No reference to the word "speed" will show up on any record. So he cut you a break, but not enough to let you go scott free. Consider it successful. As for the window tint, the VA cops HATE it. It's a personal safety issue around here as they can't see what the occupants are doing in the car. They will almost never give you a break on window tint. What most VA people do is to go light on the fronts and sides, then darker on the rear window (which is allowed). Guess that cop had a personal issue with tint. Wonder if he nails all the FL cars coming though VA for tint violations as well? Lotta drug traffic on the interstates around here......cops getting shot and all that. (Hi Brett !!) Pay the fines, not much collateral damage on your driving record from the encounter. You won't win either of those in court. And he gave you a little bit of a break so ya did pretty good overall I think. - - Duane Collie The Sled ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:25:35 -0700 From: "Jerry Chyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Phaedrus-2002/M3 Talk about a wolf in sheeps clothing. I hope Bimmer does part II on the build. Thanks for the info Michael. Jerry Chyo '88 M5 '72 tii Michael Wrote: > The 2002/M3 hybrid is still there. The drive train is installed, > as is the M3 suspension and dashboard and controls. It is a very > slick installation, down to the last detail. The last time I was > there the interior was in progress. The engine bay was refinished > in Malaga (the original maroon), as will be the rest of the car. > I can believe $50,000. It should be one helluva track car, though > I don't know the owner and his intentions. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:25:39 -0700 From: "Jerry Chyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: E28M5 tranny noise It's how they sound. Think M-22 Rock Crusher. I think the E30's of the same vintage had a similar problem. I know. "They all do it" sucks as an answer. :^) Jerry Chyo '88 M5 '72 tii Alex wrote: > Another question....what is that friggin noise that seems to come from the > tranny in my M5? It only happens when the car is in gear and > moving. If I > am moving at speed, and put the clutch in, the sound dissappears. > The sound > is like a mild clicking...repititious...clicks increase with speed, of > course. The sound seems to eminate from below the stick shifter. I can't > really describe the sound that well. I'm confused and surprised that this > M5 would have wear in the tranny considering it's babied past (have full > service records showing inspections completed and red line tranny > fluid...even window sticker) and low mileage at 67,000. I just had > inspection II done a couple months ago. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:31:07 -0500 From: "Rob Norwalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: E36 front stress bars Well forget that last post...Just checked their website, and the E36 bar is hinged! Sorry for the WOB I wrote... >Has anyone else seen the front stress bar in the new Bavarian catalog? I >know the UUC and JTD bars are both excellent, but the picture in the >catalog shows two aluminum tubes with various compound bends that are >WELDED directly to to the circular strut tower mounting flanges. It's not >the prettiest looking thing, but looks effective (no hinges, simple as it >gets), and is relatively inexpensive - like $179 for an E36. > >I don't see any down side to this (I don't give cosmetic appearance much >priority) - do you? > >Rob >93 -325 _______________________________ Rob Norwalk Raytheon Systems Company Vc:219.429.4737 Fx:219.429.5004 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #563 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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