[uucdigest]           Friday, June 22 2001           Volume 03 : Number 3912



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  [uuc] <E30> EBC  Brake Pads?                [tabe johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  RE: [uuc] heat heat heat--Oxy-MAPP Torches...  [James Muskopf <james_535@y]
  [uuc] Speed                     ["Richard Sperry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Head bolts                [John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  RE: [uuc] Speed...Part II  ["Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Speed                    ["Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Head bolts                        [Dog-n-Hog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Head bolts                    [Jay Guillermo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Re: Brett and the S54  ["Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Speed                          ["Alarcon, Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  RE: [uuc] <E30> Stuck Bolts, etc.  Help!  ["Steven Osztertag" <sosztertag@]
  Re: [uuc] Speed                        ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Dismantling an AutoBox.    [Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:11:07 -0700
From: tabe johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E30> EBC  Brake Pads?

Has anyone on the list used EBC Green or Red brake pads?  How did they
behave relative to others you've used?


Many Thanks,

- --tabe johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1988 325is

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Muskopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] heat heat heat--Oxy-MAPP Torches...

Oxy-MAPP torches are cool.  MAPP stands for something like
Methyl-acetylene-propa-di-ene or something like that.  The flame gets
up to 5500F, or so they claim.  Nothing you'll ever use beats
oxy-acetylene-- over 6000F at the tip of the flame.  I took a welding
class at Va Tech.  I highly recommend every serious DIY mechanic take
a welding class at the local community college!

I bought one of these torches to do a track-side repair at Roebling
Road one summer.  Barry (of bimmerworld) lost his alternator belt for
some strange reason on his E30 M3.  Soooo, off to Wal-Mart at 10PM,
somewhere about 15 miles down I-95.  We found the handy-dandy
oxy-MAPP torch kit for $40, including brazing rods, striker, torch,
and spare flints.  Cool.  I brazed that cracked tensioner at 1AM by
the light of the Coke machine at the tech shed.  It held for months
until he got a new one.  Never broke another alternator bolt that
weekend, either.

So then last October I bought my own E30 M3.  It had a bit of belt
squeal.  I found the alternator adjuster holes were completely hogged
out, and the bolt was worn (not broken, worn down) to half its
original diameter.  It would have taken a week to get the parts, so I
went to Sears and bought another Oxy-MAPP torch, new bolts, and some
washers.  I brazed a couple of washers on both tabs, let it cool,
reamed the washers to fit an M8 bolt snugly, and put it back
together.  It held everything in place for a week until the dealer
(stealer--sheesh, talk about price gouging, even w/ discount!) got
the parts.

I just used that torch to heat a rear CV axle nut on my other
friend's M3.  It wouldn't come off with a good air impact wrench, so
we ended up using heat and brute force--a breaker bar with a 3'
cheater pipe!  No amount of PB blaster worked.  It was just really
stuck on, but not rusted.  Whoever did the last wheel bearing R/R
f'ed it up pretty good.

James
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
88 M3 Henna
88 M5

> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:15:58 -0400
> From: "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] heat heat heat
> 
> FYI - one of my torches is an oxy/mapp torch with
> small disposable bottles. I think Sears/Lowes/etc.
> sells them for about $40. Like a mini oxy/acetylene
> torch.  It works great for getting a lot of heat in a small
> area without cooking everything else around it. The bottles
> are kind of pricey but it comes in real handy when you need it.
> I also have a regulator and a hose with a propane torch for
> the "normal" heat jobs. Makes it real nice without having the
> bottle attached to it, can work inverted, etc. Of course if
> you have the cash, OA is the way to go. Multitude of tips,
> you can cut your car in half if you like, etc...
> 
> 1st

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:52:50 -0400
From: "Richard Sperry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Speed

Sorry I'm a little late, I'm catching up on the email.

on two wheels   indicated 201, probably about 192, on a 1999 Suzuki Hayabusa
1300.  The only thing I was thinking was " DON'T FALL OFF"

And yes it was in a school zone, next to a hospital and an assisted living
center....


On 4 wheels 250 Kph, on the rev limiter in a BMW 328 on the way back to
Munich from the Nurburgring drivers school   ( 155.3 Mph) My silly wife took
a picture of the passing countryside so that she could see the speed
later... Funny, we now have a very nice still life picture of some German
farmland...DOH...

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:01:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Head bolts

 Hi Gang,
As I sit and comptemplate replacing all of those pesky
hex head bolts in my 87 325 with the official BMW torx
head bolts I wonder where will I get the E-17 torx
socket which I will need. Or will I use my 7/16" 12
point 1/2" drive socket that seems to fit so well. I
also wonder, do I really need a protractor to find 90
degrees?

Just wonderin'
John

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:08:27 +0200
From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Speed...Part II

A frined used to mix Air Fuel into his van..
He claimed it went better, but I dunno if it's more an urbal Legend

I've have vitnes serious discusions about
mixing moonshine 96% alcohol in the gas.

Comments ?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:30 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [uuc] Speed...Part II
> 
> 
> Has anyone ever done top fuel type stuff?
> It's gotta be the only thing that's close to that catapult....
> 
> 1st
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       . [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:15 PM
> > To: BMW
> > Subject:    [uuc] Speed...Part II
> > 
> > Oh yeah.....speaking of speed.  I hit Mach 2 in an F4B 
> Phantom, when in
> > the
> > Navy.....does that count?   and 0-650 MPH  in 275 feet in a 
> steam catapult
> > launch off the USS Constellation.....
> > 
> > Jeff
> 

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:07:34 -0400
From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Speed

Been traveling so able to read but not send.

Scariest, not necessarily fastest, was with a fraternity brother in his
Dodge Challenger with the 440 SixPack setup.  Heading up Memorial Drive in
Cambridge he floored it just before the Mass. Ave. underpass and emerged at
about 120.

The dip was like the first drop in a roller coaster and all I could think of
was "Please God, don't let anyone turn off Mass. Ave. till we get past."

Carey Probst,  '99 M3/2,  BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters
Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched
Soon to be Braced

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:25:35 -0500
From: Dog-n-Hog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Head bolts

Use the proper tool for the job.  Any good auto parts and/or
hardware store should have the socket (you may have to buy
an entire set, though).

A protractor is not needed.  Simply use a scribe to make a 
reference point on the head/rocker arms/or wherever, as well
as on one of the corners of each head bolt.  Turning 90 degrees
is easy to guess/check.

GL,
Norm

John Gallagher wrote:
> 
>  Hi Gang,
> As I sit and comptemplate replacing all of those pesky
> hex head bolts in my 87 325 with the official BMW torx
> head bolts I wonder where will I get the E-17 torx
> socket which I will need. Or will I use my 7/16" 12
> point 1/2" drive socket that seems to fit so well. I
> also wonder, do I really need a protractor to find 90
> degrees?
> 
> Just wonderin'
> John
> 
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:38:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Guillermo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Head bolts

- --- John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Hi Gang,
> As I sit and comptemplate replacing all of those pesky
> hex head bolts in my 87 325 with the official BMW torx
> head bolts I wonder where will I get the E-17 torx
> socket which I will need. Or will I use my 7/16" 12
> point 1/2" drive socket that seems to fit so well. I
> also wonder, do I really need a protractor to find 90
> degrees?
> 
> Just wonderin'
> John
> 
> =====
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> 

E-17 Torx socket is available in auto stores.  I remember I got mine from Pep
Boys (Auto Zone in some states).

It's either you but a torque angle or you can improvise.  I improvised, well
not exactly me but someone since I found about it browsing to some
digests/forums.  This is what I did...cut out a hole (big enough to surround
the bolt with some clearance, then along the edge of the hole mark the ends of
the 90 degree.  Put the hole over the bolt, using a wipe out pen (the one you
use to erase typos in a document) mark the 90 degree around the bolt.  Not on
the bolt's edge.

You may want to visit this webpage for some info:

http://www.bmwe30.net


Hope this helps,
Jay
'93 325i
'84 325e (stolen)

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:50:00 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Brett and the S54

> From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] Brett and the S54
>
> Last I heard, Brett has two S54 engines and a 6.5 liter V-12 block.
>
 Now if only those heads weren't being so difficult about bolting on.....


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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:51:05 -0500
From: "Alarcon, Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Speed

Okay, so the wheelie from 100-160 is impressive.  But you 
want scary ?  How about 67 MPH on a 20 pound bicycle, with 
19 mm wide tires (that's 3/4" for the metrically challenged) 
while wearing lyrca and a foam cooler on your head ...

OBMWC, Of course after the ride I put the bike on my 325is 
and sped home.

Robb A.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:00:03 -0400
From: "Steven Osztertag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30> Stuck Bolts, etc.  Help!

Hi Neil

Thanks for your great site, some suggestions below:

Steve O
'86 325, getting ready for first performance driving 
school.

[snip]

1. While trying to R&R the parking brake assemblies I
find that the sheath is stuck on the hub side.  There
isn't enough metal end-collar to catch in vise-grips
as the collar is recessed in the hub and appears to be
a mild press-fit now corroded in place.

> Don't damage the stamped sheet metal parking brake 
backing plate. You will have to remove you hub and 
some hard brake lines to replace this.

> What about pushing it from the outside ?

2. I'm not able to remove the brake hard lines as they
are corroded on.  Vise-grips are making good progress,
but the bolt that holds the t-splitter to the body is
corroded.  The head is rounded.  Any ideas?

> In combination with heat also try tapping the stuck
fastener. Vibration combined with heat is a great
"loosener". If you are good with a welder, weld a 
bolt to the stuck bolt so you can get a wrench on it.

3. One of the bolts that holds the tank up sheared and
the stud in left in the car.  I can drill it out, but
what would we put in its place?  Nut-sert?  How does
that work and will it be easy to remove as and when it
becomes necessary?

>I have not been to this place in my car but how 
about drilling and tapping a next size up hole
for a new stud.

4.I reseated a subframe bushing and changed the
semi-trailing arm bushings.  Write-ups to follow in
detail!

> I look forward to a new edition of the 
Bentl err no, the "Deshpande BMW Repair Manual"

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:06:27 -0400
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Speed

Heck, in my case just being outside in public wearing Lycra is scary enough
for all involved!  I'd be afraid people would still recognize me even with a
cooler on my head.

Geeeze
'88 325is race car for sale
http://patdonahue.com/forsale


From: "Alarcon, Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> want scary ?  How about 67 MPH on a 20 pound bicycle, with
> 19 mm wide tires (that's 3/4" for the metrically challenged)
> while wearing lyrca and a foam cooler on your head ...

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:16:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Dismantling an AutoBox.

Brett:

"Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"n) Could Brett possibly dare to open up an automatic
transmission?

Whenever I have to, but slushboxes don't evoke the
passions...."

At my last workplace, the autobox dyno guys would
dismantle transmissions and put them together all day
long.  I watched this in wonder as all the pieces
seemed pretty interchangable to me.  One day, they
offered a 2-hr class to teach us how to do this and I
missed it on account of a client engagement, but I
then found that another 5 people knew how to do it! 
I'm sure it is different for different boxes, but
taking it apart and putting it back together turned
out not to be very tough after all.  Looked simpler
than what I know of manual boxes.

Repairing parts of it might be another story though. 
I'm not sure how that would go.  If you could just
replace modules, probably not too tough.  If not, I
have no idea.

Neil - never thought I'd need to know about an
autobox, but now that I like the 740i Sport . . .
http://www.neilwerke.com


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