[uucdigest] Monday, June 25 2001 Volume 03 : Number 3923 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Replacing Starter on E36 ["Wil Birkmaier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Head bolts ["Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: Head bolts [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. ["Bryan Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Opinions on 1997-1999 5series ["Auriflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] RE: [uuc] Dismantling an AutoBox. [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Speed II [TR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. ["John Van Houten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] RE: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. ["Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] new BMW recall [ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] RE: [uuc] Speed ["richard535i" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] RE: Puzzling Emissions Test ["KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] thanks to Neil Maller, Gary Derian [Jay Herrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:34:42 -0400 From: "Wil Birkmaier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Replacing Starter on E36 Guess, I should have looked into this before I assumed that it would be an easy job, like any other car, hell, even my Porsche was easier than this looks. What is the best way to approach this, from the top or the bottom, I have a 5 speed and heard a rumor that it could be done from the bottom, seems like less stuff to remove, but then again, it is way up there! What is the best consensus top or bottom, if I go the top route, what other parts am I going to need, gasket for the intake, nuts? It is a 1992 M50 non-vanos motor, 325is. Thanks! Wil Wil Birkmaier Systems Administrator BEA Systems 271 Waverly Oaks Rd Waltham, MA 02452 781.472.3294 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:48:34 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Head bolts First, make sure they need to be changed. There were two different brands of Hex bolt used, only one of the two, Ribe, is prone to failure. If you don't have Ribe bolts, don't touch them. Second, changing them one at a time is highly unadvisable. The risk of hydra-locking the cylinder block is extreme. Great care should be taken to remove all fluid from the bolt holes before installing each new bolt. Finally, I think you'll find the bolts are E14 or E16. - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Head bolts > > Hi Gang, > As I sit and comptemplate replacing all of those pesky > hex head bolts in my 87 325 with the official BMW torx > head bolts I wonder where will I get the E-17 torx > socket which I will need. Or will I use my 7/16" 12 > point 1/2" drive socket that seems to fit so well. I > also wonder, do I really need a protractor to find 90 > degrees? > > Just wonderin' > John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:56:59 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Head bolts I did this in my 87 325i a few thousand miles ago, so I can help a little bit. > >First, make sure they need to be changed. There were two different brands >of Hex bolt used, only one of the two, Ribe, is prone to failure. If you >don't have Ribe bolts, don't touch them. In my case, they were in fact Ribe. Out they went. Interestingly enough, none of mine were broken, but two were looser than I would have liked. Presumably in the stretch phase prior to breaking. >Second, changing them one at a time is highly unadvisable. The risk of >hydra-locking the cylinder block is extreme. Great care should be taken to >remove all fluid from the bolt holes before installing each new bolt. I did mine one at a time with no problems. Get a flashlight and look down the holes. If there is oil or other fluid down there, used some compresed air and/or brake cleaner to get it out. Get the bolts started by hand. Thread them down until the sit on the washer and the head. If there is any fluid in the hole when you put the bolt in you can feel it lock up. If it does pull it and clean it again. I did mine in the same pattern as tighening the head bolts. I pulled one and then put the new one in. The first time around I only tightened them to 22ft/lb. Then, once they are all in, go back and use the same patern to give them a 90 degree turn, and then go back and do the second 90. I did mine with an 18 inch breaker bar and a 10 inch extension. I got the torx sockets at Sears. I think it was $20 for six of them. Interestingly they weren't Craftsman. Finally, when you do the 90 degree turn... it is 90 degrees all in one pass. Doing two 45's. or three 30's isn't the same. >Finally, I think you'll find the bolts are E14 or E16. > > >> From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [uuc] Head bolts >> >> Hi Gang, >> As I sit and comptemplate replacing all of those pesky >> hex head bolts in my 87 325 with the official BMW torx >> head bolts I wonder where will I get the E-17 torx >> socket which I will need. Or will I use my 7/16" 12 >> point 1/2" drive socket that seems to fit so well. I >> also wonder, do I really need a protractor to find 90 >> degrees? >> >> Just wonderin' >> John > > > - -- Joe - -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:53:48 -0400 From: "Bryan Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. Neil writes: > Of all aftermarket kits, I have consistently found the > Zeemax ones to be in the poorest taste! Some of the > early Alpina ones were bad, but you could get used to > them, but the Zeemax ones, no way! In most cases I would agree with you. That is, until we went looking for a way to get bigger tires underneath the bodywork of my dad's race. Sure, we could have gone the CF PTG kit, but if you have that much money, you might as well just build an E46 GT-R car. Instead, we went with a fiberglass Zeemax kit, which looks right at home on the racetrack. On the street, most people find the Zeemax kit flat ugly, and too much like the Honda boy body kits. But, those same people love the car at the track. At the last club race at VIR, most agreed that it was hands down the best looking car in the paddock. My point? Well, I don't really have one... Here's a picture: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=237665&a=12228929&p=44825331 - -Bryan Watts E36 325 ITS/KP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:15:05 -0500 From: "Auriflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Opinions on 1997-1999 5series If there is a website that lists things to look out for regarding the above vehicles (528 or 540) would someone be so kind as to point it out to me? I also accept list opinions as well. (duh!) I went to Basney Imports in South Bend this weekend, as my wife wants a newer 5series. We test drove a dark red colored 1999 528i that sure was nice. Many more neato things than in my 1995 325i. They also had a Laguna M3 on the lot, which was had a deposit on it, but something was said about the dealer requiring the car to be on the lot for six months or something. Regardless, the Laguna was a darker blue than I had anticipated. The new M5 they had was sure nice to look at up close as well. John Marshall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:15:27 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Dismantling an AutoBox. on 6/25/01 7:12 AM, "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Main point is to make sure you remember where your balls go. And who would argue with that? Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:22:24 -0400 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. Yow. That is one very nice looking car. However, you should just go ahead and strike out the part about ITS on that car's race readiness. ITS DOES NOT ALLOW fender flares and the air dam CANNOT EXTEND BEYOND THE FRONT STOCK _BODYWORK_ (no, that doesn't say front bumper). Does anybody _read_ the rules before they go racing? Geeeze '88 325is race car for sale http://patdonahue.com/forsale From: "Bryan Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Instead, we went with a fiberglass Zeemax kit, which looks right at home on > the racetrack. On the street, most people find the Zeemax kit flat ugly, > and too much like the Honda boy body kits. But, those same people love the > car at the track. At the last club race at VIR, most agreed that it was > hands down the best looking car in the paddock. > > Here's a picture: > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=237665&a=12228929&p=44825331 > > -Bryan Watts > E36 325 ITS/KP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:35:46 -0400 From: TR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Speed II Jeff says, Oh yeah.....speaking of speed. I hit Mach 2 in an F4B Phantom, when in the Navy.....does that count? and 0-650 MPH in 275 feet in a steam catapult launch off the USS Constellation..... Jeff Jeff, we are talkin crappy here . I hit 12 knots in a launch once at the Charlestown Navy Yard. Anyway after the catapult where was your breakfast? TR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:38:26 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. > Yow. That is one very nice looking car. However, you should just go ahead > and strike out the part about ITS on that car's race readiness. ITS DOES > NOT ALLOW fender flares and the air dam CANNOT EXTEND BEYOND THE FRONT STOCK > _BODYWORK_ (no, that doesn't say front bumper). Does anybody _read_ the > rules before they go racing? Uh, Pat, you can't really read it in that picture, but that is his dad's BMod car. His ITS car, from the pics I've seen, appears to be legal. Not that anyone cheats in ITS (chip, what chip ;-) John Only a single race car family... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:16:29 -0400 From: "Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: Zeemax Kits. Hey Pat, I think this car is not the ITS car. Rather if you look closely at the stickers on the car it says "SPO" and either "BM" or "DM". I had to look again because I was wondering as well. I recognize Bryan from the CR list but IIRC he and his dad race at least a couple different cars? So how many is it now Bryan? ; ) Jack Money JS #86 R ********************** Yow. That is one very nice looking car. However, you should just go ahead and strike out the part about ITS on that car's race readiness. ITS DOES NOT ALLOW fender flares and the air dam CANNOT EXTEND BEYOND THE FRONT STOCK _BODYWORK_ (no, that doesn't say front bumper). Does anybody _read_ the rules before they go racing? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:24:47 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] new BMW recall interesting that the bimmer.org message boards got specific mention as part of one owner's own investigation into his 2x burnin' X5's. http://www.competitionpress.com/carnews/2001_stories/0702_headliner.mv not sure how fresh the story is as it's not dated, but I don't recall seeing it in AutoWeek last week. Ben no recalls on my cars that I know of.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:38:38 +0100 From: "richard535i" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Speed Hello, my real name is Andy Green, I think I'm the winner!!! ;-) Richard M > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:03:58 -0400 > From: "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [uuc] Speed > > ding, ding, ding.... winner? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Sperry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sorry I'm a little late, I'm catching up on the email. > > > > on two wheels indicated 201, probably about 192, on a 1999 Suzuki > > Hayabusa > > 1300. The only thing I was thinking was " DON'T FALL OFF" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:51:35 -0700 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Puzzling Emissions Test Anythoughts on the following: V12, failes Ca. emission tests but only at idle with high HC. For comparison I looked at the '99 results too. At 2500 rpm '99 2001 HC 2 18 CO 0.01 0.01 CO2 14.8 15.4 O2 1.4 0.4 At Idle '99 2001 HC 4 443 CO 0.01 0.34 CO2 14.6 15.2 O2 1.5 0.7 Motor has 122k miles but runs perfectly fine. I'm wondering if I have an injector partially stuck open thus the result at idle but not 2500rpm. How would a failed or failing fuel pressure regulator exhibit itself in emissions? Thanks- Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:20:00 -0400 From: Jay Herrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] thanks to Neil Maller, Gary Derian Thanks for your replies on the exhaust hanger P/N (1.5 - 2 weeks ago) and the additional feedback. I was in a hurry and feeling miserly, so I only picked up the hangers - nothing else (did not lake-test the old fasteners, sorry). Local dealer told me $35.25 each on the phone, then was going to bill me ~$50 each at the counter! I said something about it and they printed a new bill -- $35.25 each. I installed them the morning before driver's school at Putnam Park. They are kinda stressed under there (explains the rips in the original ones?) but work great regardless. I tried loosening everything and then snugging it back up, but couldn't seem to relieve the tension. Now chasing a different sort of subtle but relatively new noise/vibration felt in the steering wheel and shift knob (car not moving, out of gear) at about 1100rpm. Neil Deshpande thinks maybe engine/tranny mounts. Tranny look OK. Engine mounts are suspect. - -Jay 1993 325is <--stronger pull & better throttle response after Putnam Park... ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #3923 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . 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