[uucdigest]         Wednesday, June 27 2001         Volume 03 : Number 3938



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

  [uuc] WHAT a model !!                        ["BMW Bits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] <E30> Oil Change Interval?            [Tabe Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Has BMW design lost its way?  [Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewsk]
  [uuc] RE: Has BMW design lost its way?  [Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewsk]
  [uuc] RE: Has BMW lost its way    [Aleksandr Milewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] <E30> Oil Change Interval?  ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] Re: Looking for 3.45 Diff  ["Brett Anderson" <brett@koalamotorsport.]
  Re: [uuc] BMW Films  "Star"         ["Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Jeff Herrmann               [Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:53:12 -0000
From: "BMW Bits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WHAT a model !!

What has prominent protruberances ,gets on with it FAST and leaves no
aftereffects ?
Well, I recommend a 1;18 scale BMW model I just bought ...
The 1999 BMW V12LMR Le Mans car...as driven by Messrs Winkelhock et al
....modeled in race-white with full decals .
I got mine from Germany but some of the websites you can access thru
www.maisto.com show it being avail here ....one even lists it by Maisto
number (38882) but shows a pic of the AUDI car (black ) ..hows that for a
quality web-page ? .

I have 2/300 models in various scales and this one is definitely one of the
best for the price .
There is a Kyosho model avail too ...about twice the price .

SOOooo NOW you know what you really want for Xmas ......!!,fancy wheels
.discbrakes and all

Bill Proud ,
30yrs Messing with BMWs in Seattle ,
Ph 206-824-8242 eves 5-9 PM My time

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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 05:35:29 -0700
From: Tabe Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E30> Oil Change Interval?

Hi,

I don't want to start a big debate, but what oil change interval would
y'all recommend for a city driven E30 (M20) with synthetic oil?  What 
about highway driven with synthetic?  Any rules of thumb?  I've heard
everything from 3000 miles to 12000 miles...

Thanks for the responses,

- --tabe johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1988 325is

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:16:02 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Has BMW design lost its way?

At 12:06 PM -0400 on 6/27/01, Don Eilenberger commanded the electrons 
to create a missive titled "Re: [uuc] Has BMW design lost its way?":

|That was my reaction also, although I now have an E39 (not necessarily
|for looks, although owning it - the looks grow on you.. :-)
|
|I always liked the looks of the E34.. classy looking sedan.
|I owned one so I might be prejudiced.

I left my "BMW" sig off my last message. I have an M Coupe and an E34 
540i, and my wife has an E38 740i Sport....so there's my prejudice. ;)

|I think without seeing it in person, it's hard to tell. The general
|lines are more voluptuous than the E38 series, and it may be a case
|of the styling of the M-Coupe, which IMHO never photographs well.

I've certainly never thought of the E38 as voluptuous, that's sure. 
I've always thought of it as a nice, crisp pinstripe suit. As to 
photographing the coupe, I tried: <http://www.mcoupe.net/sunset/>

|BTDT, but I've gotten better at it since I own one. Strangely, this
|morning I was being tailgated by an E38 (had a slow driver in front
|of me), and at first I thought it was another E39, until I noticed
|the size of the grilles.

Head on, there's a resemblance. But otherwise, I've always thought of 
the E38 as an evolution of the E32, rather than kin to the E39. IMHO, 
it looks more like the E34's bigger sibling than the E32 did. (But 
maybe I've spent too much time looking at them side-by-side in the 
driveway...especially since I put M-Parallels on the 540).

|Someone described BMW's styling (the E46, E38, E39) as "same sausage,
|different lengths" - which is probably what BMW is trying to get
|away from with the E65. Make each car different enough to be 
instantly recognizable.

I guess these things really are in the eye of the beholder, since to 
me the E38 was the odd man out, and the E46 and E65 are cut from the 
same cloth. The E39 (and the E36 before it) was a transition from the 
old ways (E30, E32, E34, E38) to the new (E46, E65)...and the E60, if 
the spy photos be true, fits right in with the new.

|Well.. yes, but the classic styling won't meet current safety
|standards and they DO look dated. Classic frequently equals
|'dated' until there are so few around that they become collectable.

A digression: I was at the British Motor Show in Birmingham last 
year, and I was talking to the folks from Trident 
<http://www.tridentcar.com> about their car. I think the Iceni is 
drop-dead gorgeous. I mentioned that I was just torturing myself by 
even being at the show, since none of these cars would ever come to 
the states. They indicated that the only issue would be the bumper 
standards, and said "We don't want to end up with the car looking 
like that," gesturing to the next booth over: Qvale Mangusta 
<http://www.qvaleauto.com/>

But if the original Miata met the bumper standards, there's hope, right?

|I wouldn't include the E38 in 'classic' - perhaps elegant, but very
|little IMHO to really make it an eyecatcher.

I really can't argue with that. It's an excellent execution of a 
mundane concept. ;)

|From lots of angles it has a unique
|and ballsy look, from other angles I used to think "what were they
|thinking of..". An M-Coupe is an acquired taste for a lot of us,

It certainly is...there are fewer and fewer of those "what were they 
thinking" glimpses as time goes on...

|Small children and teens seem particularly
|to love the coupe styling, passed a school-bus stop every day to
|work in mine where a few kids ALWAYS waved and yelled.. can't
|say that's happened in the 528i.. :-)

I've noticed that it attracts attention from kids, and from "car 
guys." I been amazed at the number of people that "get it," and 
immediately make the comparison to the MGB GT and the Triumph GT6.

|>- -Zandr
|>   (nomex on...try me. ;)
|
|No need for nomex.. it's been a civilized discussion so far :-)

I really expected to get blasted for my comments on the M3C... but 
the civil discussion is far more enlightening. ;)

- -Z
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Aleksandr Milewski                                     BMWCCA #166568
SysAdmin, 530i.org                                      '95 540i/6spd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                                     '00 740i Sport
Ben Lomond, CA                                            '00 M Coupe

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:17:34 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Has BMW design lost its way?

At 10:09 PM -0700 on 6/26/01, you commanded the electrons to create a 
missive titled "[uuc] RE: Has BMW design lost its way?":

|> E30, E34, E39, E46: the M cars look much better than their regular
|> counterparts;
|
|It's a tossup to me; the E30 M3 definitely looked better than the 
slabsided base E30.  But the E34 M5 was, wheels aside, barely 
distinguishable from any other E34 sedan.

Two (seemingly contradictory) comments:

First, that was half it's charm. M5's have been (prior to the E39, 
anyway) sleepers. There's something really appealing about sickly 
fast big sedans, especially if they're Q-ships. The 740i Sport is in 
this category as well, though I'd dearly love to transplant an S62 
into it. ;)

On the other hand, to me, the E34 was a very impressionable shape. 
I'm always surprised by how different that car looks in M5 trim vs. 
540i trim, or even in different colors.

I agree on the E30 (I love the E30M3!), but I think the M version of 
the E46 was a step backwards.

|IMO the E46 sedan is better-proportioned than the E46 coupe, and 
that goes for the M3 too.

I admit it. I'm a sucker for a sexy C-pillar. (That explains my 
Pininfarina fetish. ;) The E46 coupe certainly has that.

IMO, the E46 sedan suffers from the same problem that the E36 sedan 
did. Too much going on in too little length, so you run out of car 
before you're done with the trunk lid. ;)

- -Z
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Aleksandr Milewski                                     BMWCCA #166568
SysAdmin, 530i.org                                      '95 540i/6spd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                                     '00 740i Sport
Ben Lomond, CA                                            '00 M Coupe

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:09:20 -0700
From: Aleksandr Milewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Has BMW lost its way

At 12:48 PM -0400 on 6/27/01, Justin Sokolowski commanded the 
electrons to create a missive titled "[uuc] RE: Has BMW lost its way":
|    I passed a white E46 M3 going home from work last night, and thought to
|myself "they really got that one right" (from the aesthetic aspect, I
|haven't had the pleasure of driving one yet).

I have, and it's... Well, it's not for me. It felt big, ponderous, 
heavy, and not very precise. And it doesn't have enough brakes. And 
everyone else on the track really slowed down when I started driving 
it.... Yeah, that's the only explanation...except...well...there had 
to be something wrong with the speedometer, because it said I was 
doing better than 115 when I started braking for Turn 5. (at Laguna)

The car is insanely fast, but it doesn't feel obligated to let the 
driver in on the joke. ;) I was probably 5-10 seconds slower in my M 
Coupe (really!) but the Coupe is much, much more fun.  The S54 
powered coupe has my attention, I'd love to drive one of those.

But this thread is about looks. To me, the 330ci is the best looking 
E46 out there. I still think the nose is too blunt, but some of that 
is just what you have to do to package McPherson struts. The M3 body 
kit just blurs the shape of the car into a slab. Take the roof off, 
and all definition is gone, you have a bar of soap with a Kamm tail. 
;)

|I concur with previous
|sentiments that the 740i sport looks great - It's the best looking 7 series
|in years. But I say in years because I can't get over my E23. It's
|beautiful.

I mentioned this earlier, but the E23 always looked "droopy" to me. 
If the cowl and trunk line didn't quite drop so much... But it is a 
beautiful car.

I think the E38, especially the recent Sport, is one of the 
best-looking sedans since the days of the 3.0 and Bavaria.

|   Bring back the shark nose.

Amen, brother!

- -Zandr
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Aleksandr Milewski                                     BMWCCA #166568
SysAdmin, 530i.org                                      '95 540i/6spd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                                     '00 740i Sport
Ben Lomond, CA                                            '00 M Coupe

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:08:11 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Oil Change Interval?

I change my Mobil 1 at 7500 miles.  When I tried to stretch to 10,000 miles,
the oil consumption would rise in the last 2500 miles.

Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Hi,
>
> I don't want to start a big debate, but what oil change interval would
> y'all recommend for a city driven E30 (M20) with synthetic oil?  What
> about highway driven with synthetic?  Any rules of thumb?  I've heard
> everything from 3000 miles to 12000 miles...
>
> Thanks for the responses,
>
> --tabe johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1988 325is
>

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:41:40 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Looking for 3.45 Diff

Bob, 3.45 is a large diff ratio, it won't work in any of the medium housings
you're alluding to.

3.46 is what you need.  Stock in 528e Super Eta Automatic, all E23 735i's
and some Automatic E46's to name a few.

Also as rare as hens teeth right now, I've been paying beyond top dollar for
them, seems (from the amount of Quaifes I'm selling) that the E36 M3 crowd
has found a new source of power...


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and pay per incident tech help.
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www.koalamotorsport.com
Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual


> From: "Bob Van Epps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] Looking for 3.45 Diff
>
> Looking for 3.45 diff, preferably Limited Slip for E30, E28, E24 etc.
>
> Please respond directly with price, quantity, condition, location.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:55:37 -0400
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW Films  "Star"

Didnt I read somewhere that they used 540i's with M5 body kits on them?
think they had one M5 to use for some of the drive by scenes.   It was good,
no doubt, but that jump scene is so out of place to me in the movie.

Mike

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:24:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Jeff Herrmann

Adam Wilson wrote:
>>Jeff told me he had someone in the car and the thing was all over the
>>place because his new coilovers weren't set up right yet.

I've seen him driving before and it's always looked like a thrill ride.
:-)  BTW same question I asked Ben, which coilovers did he install?

I assume that's your Contour in the space next to his at Gingerman?

Carlos
91 M3  

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