[uucdigest] Thursday, June 28 2001 Volume 03 : Number 3945 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Re: NY Bans Cell Phones for Drivers [[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John H] RE: [uuc] NY Bans Cell Phones for Drivers! WOOHOO!!!! ["Bill Matthews" <] [uuc] Personal Responsibility (was Re: NY Bans Cell Phones for Drivers) [] [uuc] Re: Looking for 3.45 diff ["Brett Anderson" <brett@koalamotorsport.] [uuc] 2002 model year ordering guides [ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: <E46> M3. http://www.donotbuyabmw.com. ["Brett Anderson" <bret] Re: [uuc] <WOB> BMWFilms "Star" ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] re: E30 oil change interval ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:38:53 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart) Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: NY Bans Cell Phones for Drivers Distraction indeed, hate to clue BMW enthusiasts forward to the future, but NY is inevitably and inadvertently pushing the envelope of technology during downturned economic times with this new law. As stupid as I seem, please accept my opinion that this will only bring more accurate and cheaper voice recognition software to car phone technology sooner for the poor, deprived NY Wall Streeters (and thereabouts, aka Long Island, Westchester, etc)) who need it so in order to raise this country out of recession! John-96 328is c..FWIW, I find the best place to use a cellphone is ontop of a 4,000 ft NH, ME or VT mountain, decidedly non-automotive in place. They can't take that away from me! (I only wish my BMW had a remote retrieve device to get me the heck off! : >) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:52:44 -0400 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] NY Bans Cell Phones for Drivers! WOOHOO!!!! Ok this is my last on this thread. Brad, if you want to respond I'll let you have the last word ;^O. > > But, something must be done to combat this. Someone > probably has an argument saying that people won't > follow the law and that the police won't enforce it. > Yes, you are correct in saying that it probably won't > be enforced and that there are many that will not > follow it. BUT, there are thousands out there that > WILL follow it. You can't legislate either morality or common sense. Stupid laws on the books that are generally disobeyed promote an atmosphere of no law needs to be obeyed. > It's the same thing as a speed limit. Some people > don't follow them much or at all (<cough> yours truly > <cough>) and hate to be pulled over for it while > others aren't afraid of being pulled over for speeding > BECAUSE THEY NEVER SPEED. This new law is the same > way. Some will follow it while some will not. See comment above. Without digressing into the whole speed limit law BS. But I will anyway. There is nothing wrong with speed limits, only the way in which thy are arbitrarily set with no regard to any sound engineering basis (can you tell I belong to the NMA?) Again, in studies largely ignored by any one with another point of view, on any given stretch of road, under the same conditions (night, rain, daylight whatever) 80%-90% of the drivers drive the same speed +-5% no matter what the posted speed. In controlled tests where the posted speed was both higher and lower, people drove a speed that they were comfortable with independent of the posted speed. This reinforces years of prior research in many areas about the a distribution fit to a normal bell curve. > I'm sure someone will follow with what I'm about to > say, so I'll go ahead and say it. Yes, drunk driving > has been around for AGES, and it still hasn't been > quelled even though there have been laws upon laws put > into place to stop it. Sort of like drug abuse. If you treat the symptom and not the disease don't be surprised if the patient dies. > . . . I say some change is better than no change. Nope. "No change" that is made as a conscious decision is much better than knee jerk political government posturing bullshit. Which is what I've seen way too often out of any politician I've had the misfortune of seeing up close. Lets have legislative hearings on the Explorer/Firestone fiasco. Oh yea, that shed a whole lot of new light on the problem. > I never use my cell phone in the car anyway. I turn > it off and don't even THINK about it. Good for you. > Too bad others can't use the same discipline and fully > commit themselves to the task at hand (driving). I make my decisions, situationally depending on where I am and what other distractions there are. The middle of the desert in Nevada is different than the George Washington Bridge in NYC. There are numerous things competing for my attention all the time while I drive a car. I prioritize them and deal with them. That is my personal responsibility. YMMV Take the last word Bill Matthews Hockessin DE 00 M Geeze some Volvos ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:01:07 -0400 From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Personal Responsibility (was Re: NY Bans Cell Phones for Drivers) And automatics, and radios, and air conditioning... Draw the line somewhere. When disc brakes were first introduced, there was a movement to ban them from misguided folks thinking that drum brake-equipped cars would rear-end the disc brake-equipped cars. When radios were introduced, there was a movement to ban them as distracting... sort of like the anti-video display laws in effect now. Heck, I would think a _passenger_ could be considered a big distraction (especially if she is bored...). How about billboards and highway exits without seperate slow-down lanes? The _government_ let that stuff happen, yet we see no change there. Like anything in this world, the concept of personal responsibility has to come into consideration. That some people have none, and others think that nobody has any, and the lawyers hate the idea as it cuts litigation... well, that's why laws get more and more restrictive and constricting. Is this lack of personal responsibility an American problem? Maybe, as Europeans can have video, floating rotors, and mini/micro cars without horrific automotive fatality rates. But then again, the driver in a German car cannot drink a beverage or munch on a McBratwurst sandwich without fear of another driver turning him in. Do I use my cellphone in the car? Sure do... with a headset or speakerphone (installed in all my cars). I recognize that holding a phone takes a hand off the wheel (quite dangerous when I would need the other hand to shift!) and blocks my side vision. I feel the headset/speakerphone option is no more distracting that talking to a passenger. Libertarians feel this way, but the sad truth is that many people _cannot_ be trusted to make the correct decisions that affect the safety of others. Helmet laws are an example... I would have no problem with motorcycle riders who do not wish to wear a helmet - as long as they do not expect "society" (i.e. their insurance, to which my rates are tied as well) to take care of them when they get killed or injured. Ditto seatbelt laws. The seatbelt law should be changed in this way; you have the right to not wear a seatbelt, but you simultaneously lose the right to make an insurance claim if you are injured in an accident. The one exception is that you would be required to belt up your children. They don't have to suffer a stupid parent's decisions. - - Rob Levinson Speakerphones in cars. Full-face helmet on the bike. > From: "Joao T. da Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: NY Bans > Cell Phones for Drivers > > They should ban cupholders. > > Joao T. da Costa > >> Do you thing we can work on the lipstick and make-up law next????;-) >> >> Patrick Spikes >> >>> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:19:23 -0700 (PDT) >>> >>> Just read this article on AOL. Not bad. $100 for the first offense, and >>> $150 or so for the next. I can't remember the rest of the law. At least >>> it's a step in the right direction. >>> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:01:11 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Looking for 3.45 diff No single part from a "small" diff is compatible with a "medium" diff. Same goes for "large". Three sizes of diff, lots of stuff interchangeable within the sizes, nothing outside of the sizes. However, you can bolt a complete small diff into a car that has a medium, or vice versa, same with medium and large. Going down results in adding a weak point to the car. Going up increases weight, for little benefit, other than longevity. To give you an idea, the smaller of the two pinion bearings on a large diff is the same part as the larger of the two pinion bearings on the medium diff. Going up a size in diffs (provided there is a corresponding housing for your model) will give better longevity due to the, now, overkill size of the parts for the duty they must perform, extra fluid capacity (slight) and larger bearings, giving cooler running, etc. Going down is risking overheating the unit, plus everything is smaller, therefore, weaker. I think you'll find the 4.45 gear set that you mention is favoured by the E30 M3 crowd is a medium, BMW Motorsport gear set, worth a couple of thousand dollars. The 318ti came with a 4.44 which is the small style. - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: "Patrick Spikes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Re: Looking for 3.45 diff > > Could you possibly use the ring and pinion out of a 318ti 5 speed?? I know > the housing is smaller but was buttoned to an E30 subframe. Or pitch the > housing and use the ring and pinion on a quaiffe unit in another housing. If > this is a possibility let me know because the local salvage yard has a few > of these as well as 4.45's that the E30 M3 crowd is looking for. > Patrick Spikes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:02:52 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 2002 model year ordering guides http://www.cuttermotors.com/jon_shafer/2002enhanced.pdf the M coupe lives for the 2002 model year. lots of complicated sounding options for the new 7'er. SMG-II for the M3 starting in November no Mini information (drat). Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:03:39 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E46> M3. http://www.donotbuyabmw.com. What a crying piece of trash! Didn't get floor mats, so the car's a lemon. Didn't get a spare, but would shit if the car lost 50hp from a more restrictive exhaust. Has a rough cold idle, thanks to EPA restrictions on a high horsepower engine, such a tragedy. Trash is as trash does...... - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] <E46> M3. http://www.donotbuyabmw.com. > > Gruppe: > > Check this out: > > <http://www.donotbuyabmw.com/index.html> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:23:04 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOB> BMWFilms "Star" Yes, a perfect use for that MP3 player :-). I'm not really "in to" opera, but Ride of the Valkyries is a pretty famous piece. Up there with the Triumphal from Aida. The music paints a perfect picture in the mind's eye even without the story behind it. One day I'd like to see the Ring of the Neibelung at the Wagner festival. That is a tough opera, though. The quintessential women standing around screaming opera. On needs to fully study it beforehand. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gary: > > Had no idea you were into opera! Never liked the > stuff myself though my Mom listens to it a lot. In > fact, until I realized it by accident a few years ago, > I thought "Der Gotterdammerung" was the whole opera! > I heard of that first when Sir Peter Medawar was > defending, in a recorded BBC interview, the mad rush > to publish that scientists had compared to writers who > did things in a much more dignified manner by saying > that Wagner wasn't exactly worrying that someone would > run out and patent "Der Gotterdammerung" before him. > > When I mentioned it to my Mom, she laughed and pointed > to the multiple-CD set on her shelf and said, "If all > there was on it was Der Gotterdammerung for 16 hours > no one would ever have heard of Wagner. What junk!" > I guess the other parts must have been better! One of > these days I'll listen to it and see for myself though > I suppose suites are available for 'quickie' listens. > > Neil Deshpande - need to unpack my CDs! > http://www.neilwerke.com > > *** > > "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That music is "Ride of the Valkyries" from Wagner's > Ring of the Neibelung. A nice and cozy 6 hour opera. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:27:16 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re: E30 oil change interval If we all lived by "sufficient for most needs", none of us would be driving BMW's. I do agree with your point, though. I use conventional oil in the E30, but the E34's get Mobil 1. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I use synthetic in my 540 and my wife's 740, dino juice in the two > 325's. From all I've gleaned from 30+ years in the oil business I've > come to the conclusion that regular oil changes are good, synthetic only > adds life to the engine because of the wear present at start-up, and a > good quality dino-based oil is sufficient for most needs, if you change > regularly. Why do I use synthetics at all? Because I sell them, and I > guess on the newer cars I want the little extra protection they "may" > provide. I have started extending the change interval on the v-8 cars > but still change more frequently than the service indicator would > recommend. > > Oil is cheap, even the synthetic, compared to the alternative, so get a > good oil, change it often, and go worry about something else. > > Bill-banger > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #3945 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . 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