[uucdigest]           Sunday, July 1 2001           Volume 03 : Number 3956



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

  [uuc] <E34> Touring?             [Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Rob's Touring  [Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <rob@shortshifter.]
  Re: [uuc] <E46> M3.  http://www.donotbuyabmw.com  [Roger Baker <rbaker@vel]
  [uuc] Head Gasket Replacement                [CR Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Follow up on head repair               [CR Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] additional questions                   [CR Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] E36 BMW sat/nav                      [[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart)]
  RE: [uuc] E36 BMW sat/nav          ["Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] RE: Seeking advice on purchasing E30 M3  ["Dan Hermann" <dah328@hotm]

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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 20:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E34> Touring?

Philip:

When you checked http://www.classifieds2000.com, did
you check under their "Station Wagon" category?

<http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/display.exe?partner=c2k&path=Auto~Car~Search&form=stationWagon&;>

They have 4 530iTs listed there.  There are no 540iTs
in the E34 style.

Neil Deshpande
http://www.neilwerke.com

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"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Does anyone have a lead or source on a 530i/540i
Touring preferably E34 since that is more in line with
my budget..

I have already checked:
- - -www.bimmer.org (not many there)
- - -www.autobytel.com
- - -www.cars.com (for my region - NY)
- - -www.classifieds2000.com
- - -www.autotrader.com
- - -The Roundel
- - -BMW CCA Site (Prices are outta control)

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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 01:02:06 -0400
From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Rob's Touring

A few = 14 months.

;-)

- - Rob

> From: "Andrew Leong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] Rob's Touring
> 
> Rob:
> Have you had the beast for that long a period of time already?....Didn't you
> just pick it up from scott a few months ago??

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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:25:01 -0700
From: Roger Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E46> M3.  http://www.donotbuyabmw.com

That guy's car may not be perfect, but I agree he seems like a crybaby. If he wants to 
complain about the amount of time a car has been in for service, try my 2000 VW Jetta. 
It went in for a minor problem in April, and has been out of my hands for over 60 days 
so far. I've just started arbitration to get them to take the damn thing back under 
the lemon law.
- --
Roger Baker


"Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Let me clearly state my point.
>
> I personally think that the guy who created the website donotbuyabmw.com is
> overdoing it with his complaints.  People need to take responsibility for
> their decisions and actions.  He should go buy a Buick so he can get a spare
> tire and floor mats.
>
> Dean

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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 02:46:40 -0500
From: CR Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Head Gasket Replacement

1992 735i overheated several months ago and it now has oil in coolant.
Talked to a independent shop on having it repaired.  He is getting info
on parts for an estimate, I am having him to redo water pump, timing
belt or chain and any other items that would need to be replaced.  It
has 93K on it.  Any other suggestions on engine repairs while it is
down.

TIA  CR

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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 07:41:36 -0500
From: CR Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Follow up on head repair

Are their special tools needed to remove and reinstall head and the
associated parts?  Any idea on the cost for parts and labor?

Thanks CR

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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 07:47:33 -0500
From: CR Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] additional questions 

Are their special tools needed to do a head gasket repair and anyone
have a idea of cost for parts and labor?

Thanks CR

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 08:46:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart)
Subject: [uuc] E36 BMW sat/nav

Happy July
                 I test drove a 99 M3c, and of all the things to play
with at traffic lights, what should I grab but a remote control (like
for a tv couch potato) by BMW for the gooseneck LCD sat nav system.
I've never seen this installation or unit in action, and its fittment
onto the ac lowest centre duct seemed solid.  However, I suspect the top
down motorist may have let rain or excessive sun kinda make ripples on
the screen, so I wondered if this unit was less insulated than other, in
dash systems..or could it be that LCD screens generally fade in uniform
display quality over time?
     It was a neat toy for finding amusement parks, which would have
been a great excuse for extending the test drive to NJ, PA, CA, etc (to
dealer.."sorry, I was just following the directions from Natick,
Mass!").  Sadly, I didn't find Six Flags OR Disney, and wondered if that
information is programmed by BMW or is user updated..in either case, how
are similar lists for this unit updated, changed or corrected?  Do you
have to remove the brain, and take it to BMW (not mine, I'll take my
daughter to Shaker VIllage b4 going to Disney!)?  
     At any rate, does anyone know if this, US supplied monitor screen
can be modified to accept NTSC (yeah, you got the lawsuit for my trying
to play VHS, DVD or god forbid, a real laptop-someday soon!)?  Judging
from insights of knowledgable digesters on similar subjects, it seems
Europe has the option of tv signals, and I wonder if this unit has
similar linkings within (e.g a S-Video, or component input in the box).
Does anyone know if it could be easily wired to display on air NTSC
television?).  Sadly, I have to go back about 15 years, when I used a
Sony 3 inch LCD on my Range Rover's center dash top cut-away with a "CD
audio cassette adapter for true mono sound".  It was great for playing
videos when driving CA to AK-my wife watched, I simply listened (yeah
sure, ey boy, sell your 328 and buy a mini van!).
     Finally, if anyone has familiarity with this LCD nav system, or
others in general that can be added to the car, are there any better
systems than BMW's on the market in terms of 1. accuracy of directions,
and listed "emergency/amusement" data (is this stuff updated by a
thinking North American entity, or is it just laid in once into
RAM/ROM?)2, Higher level of information possible, like god forbid,
telephone, e mail, radar detecton and police car locator (could that be
by monitoring of their in car data laptop transmissions?  Would that be
legal, if unlikely?)....net surfing, car location forwarding (never mind
On Star, worry about the wife or husband tracking your location on
line!) etc.. Is e mail and or telephone a part of the Euro GSM current
capability for cellphones, much less SAT/NAV in car systems,, or is it
possible that the US will leapfrog in next 2-10 years with next
generation cellphone technology?
     Sorry for all the speculative chatter!  Anyone know what the BMW
SAT/NAV system sells for at best supplier known price..or do they ever
sell used?  I swear, it won't distract me to have one, but it doesn't
seem worth more than $700 in what it does today versus what might be
available in a couple more years, if the economy drops enough to inspire
technical insipration and invention..think GW Bush may need to have a
little war to bring much of that around here!
     Sorry-vague politic rant
John-96 328is c; there's still the OBC temp, distance and mileage to
play with on board!

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:26:20 -0400
From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 BMW sat/nav

BMW uses Navigation Technologies system (www.navtech.com), as does most of
the European and US car makers. They differ on implementation from make to
make, BMW uses a data base that divides the US in to five regions, with a CD
for each region. BMW's borders don't make a lot of sense (cut some states in
half), but any non contiguous system will present problems. You get one CD
with the car and if you want other areas or updated CD's you have to buy
them from NAVTECH. The Database is pretty good for major metropolitan areas
and major highways, and sucks for anything else. Any Region's CD covers
Interstates across the US, but for detail you have to swap the CD in for the
region your in.

Until this technology advances to real-time traffic info (which it is just
starting to do) and better coverage for rural areas it's a fancy toy with
some usefulness if you are in a covered area and have the right CD.

I suspect that the state of the art will advance faster than the auto
manufacturers will add it to their product line so the most advanced stuff
will be aftermarket for awhile.

YMMV
Bill Matthews
Hockessin DE
00 M Geeze
some Volvos

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Hart
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] E36 BMW sat/nav
>
>
> Happy July
>                  I test drove a 99 M3c, and of all the things to play
> with at traffic lights, what should I grab but a remote control (like
> for a tv couch potato) by BMW for the gooseneck LCD sat nav system.
> I've never seen this installation or unit in action, and its fittment
> onto the ac lowest centre duct seemed solid.  However, I suspect the top
> down motorist may have let rain or excessive sun kinda make ripples on
> the screen, so I wondered if this unit was less insulated than other, in
> dash systems..or could it be that LCD screens generally fade in uniform
> display quality over time?
>      It was a neat toy for finding amusement parks, which would have
> been a great excuse for extending the test drive to NJ, PA, CA, etc (to
> dealer.."sorry, I was just following the directions from Natick,
> Mass!").  Sadly, I didn't find Six Flags OR Disney, and wondered if that
> information is programmed by BMW or is user updated..in either case, how
> are similar lists for this unit updated, changed or corrected?  Do you
> have to remove the brain, and take it to BMW (not mine, I'll take my
> daughter to Shaker VIllage b4 going to Disney!)?
>      At any rate, does anyone know if this, US supplied monitor screen
> can be modified to accept NTSC (yeah, you got the lawsuit for my trying
> to play VHS, DVD or god forbid, a real laptop-someday soon!)?  Judging
> from insights of knowledgable digesters on similar subjects, it seems
> Europe has the option of tv signals, and I wonder if this unit has
> similar linkings within (e.g a S-Video, or component input in the box).
> Does anyone know if it could be easily wired to display on air NTSC
> television?).  Sadly, I have to go back about 15 years, when I used a
> Sony 3 inch LCD on my Range Rover's center dash top cut-away with a "CD
> audio cassette adapter for true mono sound".  It was great for playing
> videos when driving CA to AK-my wife watched, I simply listened (yeah
> sure, ey boy, sell your 328 and buy a mini van!).
>      Finally, if anyone has familiarity with this LCD nav system, or
> others in general that can be added to the car, are there any better
> systems than BMW's on the market in terms of 1. accuracy of directions,
> and listed "emergency/amusement" data (is this stuff updated by a
> thinking North American entity, or is it just laid in once into
> RAM/ROM?)2, Higher level of information possible, like god forbid,
> telephone, e mail, radar detecton and police car locator (could that be
> by monitoring of their in car data laptop transmissions?  Would that be
> legal, if unlikely?)....net surfing, car location forwarding (never mind
> On Star, worry about the wife or husband tracking your location on
> line!) etc.. Is e mail and or telephone a part of the Euro GSM current
> capability for cellphones, much less SAT/NAV in car systems,, or is it
> possible that the US will leapfrog in next 2-10 years with next
> generation cellphone technology?
>      Sorry for all the speculative chatter!  Anyone know what the BMW
> SAT/NAV system sells for at best supplier known price..or do they ever
> sell used?  I swear, it won't distract me to have one, but it doesn't
> seem worth more than $700 in what it does today versus what might be
> available in a couple more years, if the economy drops enough to inspire
> technical insipration and invention..think GW Bush may need to have a
> little war to bring much of that around here!
>      Sorry-vague politic rant
> John-96 328is c; there's still the OBC temp, distance and mileage to
> play with on board!
>

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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 13:30:52 -0500
From: "Dan Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Seeking advice on purchasing E30 M3

>I'm currently researching purchasing an E30 M3 to be used as a
>weekend/track/autox/fun car.  I've read up on what people recommend to
>spend (12-15k) to get a "decent" specimen which is fine for such a great
>car.

well, not to muddy the water or anything, but for $12-15k you could put 
together a pretty killer (non-M) E30 track car.  i don't know what i'd 
choose if i had that kind of budget since there is something alluring about 
the E30 M3.  in terms of pure performance, though, i think building the 
track car would have to win out.  you should be able to get into a decent 
car for under $5k leaving you with $7-10k for go-fast goodies.

that's my plan, at least, so maybe i'm just trying to rationalize...

dan
88 325is (future track car)
96 M3 (more than i can afford to lose at the track)


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