[uucdigest]           Tuesday, July 3 2001           Volume 03 : Number 3964



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

  [uuc] E36 shock mounts              ["DAVID NGUYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] RE: <MT TV> Z06 vs M3 vs Boxster S  ["Pat Donahue" <Pat@patdonah]
  Re: [uuc] E36 shock mounts             ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Hard wire and mount of radar detector  [Doug Foster <Doug.Foster@cli]
  Re: [uuc] <MT TV> Z06 vs M3 vs Boxster S  [Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Re: [uuc] Trailer Hitches - E39 prices..             [D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] BMW X5...3.0 or 4.4?               [Chris Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Tire Deals/Selection Advice Sought  ["Noe, Steve (CIT)" <noes@magic.]
  [uuc] <E36> 1995 M3 Water Pump Catastrophe   ["Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Water Pump Impellar -is a 6/96 production M3 plastic?  [Michael.E.Ma]
  Re: [uuc] <E36> 1995 M3 Water Pump Catastrophe        [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:08:10 -0700
From: "DAVID NGUYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E36 shock mounts

hi gruppe,
anyone on the list have any comments, experiences,yaddayadda's on ground 
control shock mounts? what is the recommended shock mounts for a lowered 
(ACS springs/bilstein shocks) E36? still have slight annoying squeaking 
sound back there and i got different reasons where the sound might be coming 
from... shock mounts, lower control arm bushings, or even the rear trailing 
arm bushings. (are those two bushings the same or different? anyone got 
P/N's handy?) it can be any of those so dammit might as well replace 'em 
all. TIA!

~david '94 325is
BMWCCA LAchapter
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:20:40 -0400
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: <MT TV> Z06 vs M3 vs Boxster S

That's bad news for lesser cars.  I seem to remember them talking about
suspension and steering changes too which should let it put the power down
sooner.  Looks like Chevy has decided to really build performance cars now
instead of just looking kewl.  Oh yeah, must be the redneck in me, I don't
mind that badge.

Now for the next test can we see fuel economy and crash test numbers please?

Geeeze


From: "Russ Coppes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Pat,
> The vette used in the testing was not the 405hp version.  That was a side
bar that GM was showing the new '02 Z06.  MT was waitng to do a full review
of the new car.  The yellow vette in last nights show was a '01 385hp
version.
>
> I will say it's pretty tacky, but very GM like to put the 405hp number on
the badge.  Thats just bad.
>
> RussC
>
> >From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >The new Z06 they were showing makes 405 hp and 400 lb/ft of
> >torque.  That
> >was actually a big point in the show.  Musta been that yaller
> >confused you.
> >;-)

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:22:59 -0400
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 shock mounts

I've got them on the race car and they haven't broken yet with massively
stiff shocks to control the 750 lb springs.  Of course my shocks are the
Ground Control Advanced Design shocks.

Geeeze
'88 325is race car for sale
http://patdonahue.com/forsale


From: "DAVID NGUYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> anyone on the list have any comments, experiences,yaddayadda's on ground
> control shock mounts? what is the recommended shock mounts for a lowered
> (ACS springs/bilstein shocks) E36? still have slight annoying squeaking
> sound back there and i got different reasons where the sound might be
coming
> from... shock mounts, lower control arm bushings, or even the rear
trailing
> arm bushings. (are those two bushings the same or different? anyone got
> P/N's handy?) it can be any of those so dammit might as well replace 'em
> all. TIA!
>
> ~david '94 325is

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:30:44 -0400 
From: Doug Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Hard wire and mount of radar detector

While we are on the Radar Detector topic...

Can someone point me to some info on hard-wiring your Radar Detector.  I saw
someone in another board say the "UUC guys hard-wire to the map light" but
didn't give any more info than that.  I can't afford to buy a new V1 at this
point, but for now my old Passport will have to do.

Specifically I'm looking for installation instructions for an E34.

TIA,

Doug Foster
94 540iA     90k miles, new for me

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:38 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: [uuc] New model of Valentine One?

I heard that rumor too... about 4 years ago, 3 years ago, 2 years ago, last
year...

Always question the source of the rumor.

Valentine is not a company to float "rumors" and a recent call to them
revealed no new model coming out.

In terms of "new model", why?  They update the V1 as necessary (and provide
an update service for older models) and it is already the best unit at any
price, and Mike Valentine appears committed to keeping it that way.

What would you change, size?  Sure, if you wanted less effectiveness... but
the unit is already on par with most competing units' sizes.  I had a
super-tiny Uniden a couple of years ago, the thing was useless compared to
the larger one it replaced.

- - Rob

> From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:45:51 -0700
> To: "bmwuuc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] New model of Valentine One?
> 
> I heard a new model of the Valentine (Valentine Two?) is coming out.
Anyone
> else heard this?
> 
> -John
> 

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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:57:14 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <MT TV> Z06 vs M3 vs Boxster S

Pat Donahue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I saw that.  You have to admit that the yellow Vette was beautiful to look
> at and had a great sound.  I also loved the look of the Smurf Blue M3.  The
> Boxster was completely outclassed but I think it had better skidpad numbers
> than the M3.  Amazingly the Vette beat both in the skidpad.
> 
> I want that Vette!
> 

A friend (and fellow track junkie) here on the Left Coast took delivery of a
Z06 recently.  The damned thing is FAST.  I'm impressed with it, although I
don't think it has the soul of an M3 or a P-car.  Could be my bias talking,
though.

Anyway, he decided that it's not fast enough.  So he shipped it off to some
tuner in Houston.  The thing now has 550 hp AT THE REAR WHEELS.  It also has
the full coilover setup, big-ass brakes, etc etc etc.

The downside is that they're still shaking the bugs out of it.  It has a
nasty habit of losing oil pressure on the track.  Cha-ching!

- - Mark
  '97 Carrera S
  '97 528i 5-spd
  '88 M3, track car, soon to be a JS racer
- -- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office)

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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:01:02 -0700
From: D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Trailer Hitches - E39 prices..

Jeez you guys!  You're getting hosed.  I had a custom hitch made for my Porsche.  It 
was a
beautiful work of art, entirely removable, even including a separate holder for my 
license
plate, hand fabbed by the hotshot in town who does custom trailers for racing teams and
such.  Total including wiring the car with a converter, was $400.

- -Damon
'95 993
'94 325i

Don Eilenberger wrote:
> 
> Gary found the price for the E36/M3 hitch.. I received the following
> from BekkersImports, in reply to my email asking about an E39 hitch:
> 
> >O.K,
> >That wasn't to hard. Just make sure your sitting down when you read this.
> >1. Fixed trailer hitch- $ 499.00
> >2. Detachable trailer hitch- $899.00
> >3 Electrical install kit- $305.00
> >shipping 45.00 - 60.00
> >1-3 weeks to you.
> >Let me know.
> >Thanks John EXT 17
> >800-624-5410
> 
> Total for a detachable with wiring looks like ~$1,250.00, save $400
> for the 'fixed' one (I assume the ball stays in place - any Euro
> UUC member confirm this?)
> 
> Gary wrote:
> 
> >The BMW trailer hitch kit is p/n 71-60-1-139-296, retail is US$1220.  With
> >discount it should be less than $900.  Pricey compared to the $155 DaLan
> >hitch, but I believe that is complete with wiring, hitch ball, cover plate
> >for the hole cut in the rear bumper, etc.  Also the BMW hitch is rated for
> >3500 lb, whereas the DaLan hitch is only rated for 1500.
> >
> >The Euro cars with the hitch have the rear bumper shocks replaced with a
> >fixed bracket, apparently the hitch fits into space that the bumper uses
> >when it gets hit.
> >
> >Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Zowie! Going to crawl around under the car a bit and look for mounting
> holes.. have a friend who is an expert welder.. have some metal stock..
> 
> Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/
> Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe3

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:19:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW X5...3.0 or 4.4?

Can someone give me a reason (beyond the 282hp vs 225 hp) why the 4.4 X5 is
worth about $10,000 more?

I'm leaning towards a three year lease on a 3.0 X5-loaded.  Below are the terms
and conditions I've gotten so far.

$585/month for 36 months, 15,000 mles/year with $9k down and a $22k purchase
buy-out with .10 cents/mile overage.

I was wondering what kind of deals digesters have gotten on theirs? Any
help/advice would be appreciated.

Chris
89 M3
95 M3

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:32:52 -0400 
From: "Noe, Steve (CIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Tire Deals/Selection Advice Sought

I plan to go to 235/40x17 all around on the ol' M3/4.  If you wanted to
spend under $200. per tire, which would you get?

SO-2          168  Z Rating, Tire Rack
Pilot Spt     185  Z Rating, Edge Racing

TIA 
Steve

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:34:19 -0400
From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E36> 1995 M3 Water Pump Catastrophe

All:

Just got an ugly call from my wife.  The radiator on our (new to us) 1995 M3
just broke it's top neck off, spewing antifreeze everywhere.  Luckily she
was a few hundred yards from work so she pulled in and parked the car.  I am
assuming that the plastic water pump gave up (no records of it being
replaced) and this the weakest link (apparently the top radiator neck in
this case) to fail.  Does this sound right?  Now the big question: what all
do I need to replace?  Can the radiator be repaired or is this a terminal
event?  I'm assuming new water pump, hoses, and repair/replace radiator.
How about thermostat?  Should I do the belts while I am in there?  Anything
else?  Finally, is there any reason I cannot or would not want to do these
repairs myself?  I get one free tow and figured I'd have the car dragged
home.  I'd hate to have to pay to take it to a mechanic later...

On a related note, the BMW dealer/mechanic records I got with the car are
pretty useless.  It states "Inspection II" and lists a charge, but does not
tell me what has been done.  The car has 72k miles and all service is up to
date.  Can I assume the belts were replaced or is this not a regular service
interval item?

Thank you all for your help.  I'm going to try and order parts before
everyone heads out for beer, BBQ, and fireworks.

Kevin

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:58:26 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Water Pump Impellar -is a 6/96 production M3 plastic?

  Group,
  
  I was hoping that someone could tell me the date that BMW switched 
  over from the plastic impellar water pump to the metal variety.  My 
  new to me M3 (6/96 production date) does not show any record of having 
  the pump replaced and I was considering it as a preventative measure, 
  if I do in fact have the plastic impellar.  
  
  Thanks
  
  Mike Matison
  '96 M3 Estoril, '83 320is Hennarot

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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 16:02:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> 1995 M3 Water Pump Catastrophe

>From a musty, dusty corner of Kevin's mind came...
>
>All:
>
>Just got an ugly call from my wife.  The radiator on our (new to us) 1995 M3
>just broke it's top neck off, spewing antifreeze everywhere.  Luckily she
>was a few hundred yards from work so she pulled in and parked the car.  I am
>assuming that the plastic water pump gave up (no records of it being
>replaced) and this the weakest link (apparently the top radiator neck in
>this case) to fail.  Does this sound right?  Now the big question: what all
>do I need to replace?  Can the radiator be repaired or is this a terminal
>event?  I'm assuming new water pump, hoses, and repair/replace radiator.
>How about thermostat?  Should I do the belts while I am in there?  Anything
>else?  Finally, is there any reason I cannot or would not want to do these
>repairs myself?  I get one free tow and figured I'd have the car dragged
>home.  I'd hate to have to pay to take it to a mechanic later...
>

When I was getting my timing belt squared away, there was an E36 at the same
shop. It apparently had blown the radiator (same failure that you mention)
and then ate it's water pump (melted the plastic impeller). In your case, it
could be that the pump failed and the plastic radiator was the weak link, or
it could be that the radiator just gave up. Either way, you will be taking
the radiator out, so digging down to the water pump shouldn't be that much
more work. I would change out the water pump just to be sure. Belts will
have to come off anyway, so you might as well put new ones on if there is
and question as to the old ones. I would say go for it. Do the repairs
yourself if you have the time and some wrenching experience. At least you
won't be fighting the hood like on the E30's.

- -- Joe

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]                     Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet

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