[uucdigest] Friday, July 13 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4012 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Electrical Engineering Help Needed [Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] E36-Wheels ["tomsfam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Water Pumps [Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] WTB: 17" wheels ["Robert S. Hatrak II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Parting out E30 323i. Stock seats? [Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@home.] Re: [uuc] Brake bleeding [Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] E36-Wheels [ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: Water Pumps [bsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] McLaren F1 powerplant [Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 powerplant ["Brett Anderson" <brett@koalamotorsport.] [uuc] V1 hardwire ["mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] E36-Wheels [bsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant ["Steven Reed" <bimmersteven@hotmail.] [uuc] WTB: E36 M3 wheels ["Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) [Mike Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:37:41 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Electrical Engineering Help Needed Scenario: E32 740i. Has a momentary contact switch built into the wiper stalk on the right side of the steering wheel. This switch function is marked with a stylized telephone. This switch "makes" (contacts close) when pressed towards the column, and "breaks" (contacts open) when pressure is removed. BMW C33 radio. Has a contact on rear of radio in the 17 pin connector for muting. Radio appears to mute when this terminal is grounded, but may mute when battery voltage is placed on terminal. Mission: Using minimum number of very high quality components, make the radio mute when stalk is depressed once, and return to normal volume when stalk is depressed again. I am thinking about a latching relay or diode switching . . . but my EE background dates to tube theory. Really. TIA, Ed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:37:43 -0400 From: "tomsfam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36-Wheels Folks, I'd like to change my standard 15" wheels on my 4D '96 328i. I would like to buy 17". What can I fit in width, 8 or 8.5? I like look of wider on the rear. The new 540i and ///MZ3 set up look good. I'm in the market to buy now! TIA, Tom (R) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Water Pumps Neil Maller wrote: >>Carlos always seems to be around for water pump events <vbg> LOL! Yeah good thing it happens to people *around* me but never in my own car. :-) (I was riding with Neil when his water pump went kablooey) Carlos 91 M3 P.S. That guy Uberjeph and his Bomb Ass Site has a pretty good procedure for the water pump replacement in an E36. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:45:26 -0700 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB: 17" wheels I am looking for a set of 17" wheels that would be appropriate for my sister's e46 323ci. The originals were recently destroyed by a pothole and need to be replaced. Her budget is $750-800. Please send all correspondence directly to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Rob Sin City Chapter - BMW CCA 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:57:42 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Parting out E30 323i. Stock seats? My experience is different. Heated seats have been seen in both comfort seat and sport seat cars including convertibles. Lots of 325iX models (maybe all) came with heated seats in both coupe and sedan models. An E30 M3 is the only car, however, that I have seen with only seating for two in the rear. Thus, E30 M3 seating is unique in that regard. This Yank didn't know that any e30 was made in 1983, but everyone else seemed to get models ahead of the US. Ed I am looking to buy as much hardware as I can locate to install heated front seats in the 1989 325is (aka, the money pit). That includes console switches, wiring harness and seat heating pads. I also need to know how the wiring is routed from the seat back to the bottom cushion . ben keyes wrote: > > My E30 has heated M3 seats & I don't think seat heat was a non-M E30 option in > the US. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:58:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake bleeding Neil Deshpande wrote: >>Carlos Lopez and I bought a cheap pressure guage at >>Sears ($16, now broken thanks to Carlos!) and attached >>it to a pipe that was on the adaptor cap. Easy! Hey I think *you* broke that doing your gazzillion and one brake bleeds. I bleed my brakes every 10 years or so whether they need it or not. ;-) BTW Neil today I combined the "Jim Powell" garden sprayer brake bleeder with your contraption using the Steve D'G cap. I call it The Powerolamo brake bleeder, it worked like a charm on Ben's E30 332iS. That thing ate thru a set of Porterfield R4S pads in one lapping day at Gingerman. <sheesh> Remind me not to listen to other people's brake recommendations. ;-) Carlos 91 M3 on Hawk pads __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:01:46 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36-Wheels tomsfam wrote: > I'd like to change my standard 15" wheels on my 4D '96 328i. I would like to > buy 17". What can I fit in width, 8 or 8.5? I like look of wider on the rear. you can run 8.5" in the rear without too much trouble if you roll the fenders I believe and should be able to handle 7.5" or 8" without much trouble as long as you don't go with too wide a tire. a friend (Hi Jay) is running E36 M3 wheels with 235/40-17's & has no rubbing issues that I know of. can't recall if they're 7.5", 8" or 8.5" tho. perhaps he can comment on how they are vs. the 15" & 16" wheels that he has run on his E36 coupe. > The new 540i and ///MZ3 set up look good. I'm in the market to buy now! wheels from any E39 (current shape 5 series) will not readily fit because they have a different hub dimension. however, this can be overcome pretty easily with little rings that allow the wheels to center correctly on the hub, but I'm not sure if the offests are compatible. the rear wheels on an MZ3 are unique to the MZ3 & will not fit any other BMW's without significant modifications. the normal offset for an E36 is ~25-40mm depending on width but the MZ3 rear wheels are 9" wide & have only 8mm of offset. you could run _front_ wheels at all four corners as they are 41mm offset, but I'm not sure how that would look. Ben lots of wheels ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:23:17 -0400 From: bsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Water Pumps > Carlos > 91 M3 > P.S. That guy Uberjeph and his Bomb Ass Site has a pretty good > procedure for the water pump replacement in an E36. I concur. It's informative *and* entertaining. N. Jay 93 325is ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:25:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] McLaren F1 powerplant Steve: Sort of. The cylinder center distance was equal to that of the M70 and S70 (91 mm). That, BTW, is how the M numbers are arrived at. However, the head was something like an S50 (Euro, not the US version OF COURSE!) and the displacement was 6.1L. There were some other cool features: 1. 12 individual throttle valves 2. Infinitely variable inlet timing 3. Two injectors/cylinder 4. Aluminium flywheel 5. Titanium secondary muffler 6. Dry-sump lubrication with four scavenge pumps and one pressure pump The output was 600 bhp and the weight was 274 kg. Because of these differences the McLaren motor was called the S70/2, just like the early M6 motor was called the M88/3, whereas the M1 engine was the M88. The M88/2 was a race motor with some 800 HP, I believe. The S38 came from the M88. The leap in nomenclature was somewhat arbitrary, but the 8 was retained as a reminder of the M88 origins. I believe the M88/3 was exactly the same as the S38B35 motor (they changed the system of nomenclature just then or something), with the exception of the clutch fan, which was red on the earlier motor. The S38B36 has several additional features over the S38B35 and you can get more information on that at http://www.bmwe34m5.com. Neil Deshpande http://www.neilwerke.com 1988 325iS - M20B25 1989 325iC - M20B25 1992 M5 - S38B36 (featuring collapsed tensioner!) *** "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is the McLaren F1's engine a modified S70? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:46:57 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 powerplant > From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] McLaren F1 powerplant > > Is the McLaren F1's engine a modified S70? > > Steve The engine is technically, an S70/2. That is, the next generation of the engine that powers the 850CSi. In reality, it's not even close. Amongst the most obvious is the twin cam heads, the S70 (and all other past and current BMW V12's) has single cam heads. It's an easy bet to say that there isn't a single component shared between the S70 and the S70/2. - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:18:34 -0400 From: "mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] V1 hardwire <html><DIV>Just a thought here...How about mounting the unit in the rear window on top of the third brake light....Mike....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I went out, this evening, and tried a different<BR>option. I raised the passenger's headrest, placed the<BR>V1 on the top of the seat, and lowered the headrest on<BR>top of it. Then, I fixed the seat so that the V1 was<BR>level. The only bit of wire that you can see is the<BR>bit coming from the dome light down to the headrest.<BR>Once it hits the headrest, the dark color of my<BR>interior blocks the black wire.<BR></DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com";>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:26:25 -0400 From: bsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36-Wheels That's right, no rubbing issues. The 17's with the 95 M3 stock Michelin Pilot Sport MXX3's have been great for track events (three this year). Much more capable than the 15's I ran for the prior two schools. The turn-in is better, and I don't roll the sidewalls like I did on the 205/60-15's. (Don't have much time on the 16's, as they came with aggressive M+S tires on them and so currently aren't as good as the 15's for warm weather.) I think the 17's look great (when I clean the tire chunks, brake dust, and grasshopper bits from them!), but appreciate them more for what they do for the handling. As for the wider rears... all four of mine are the same size. This means I can move them around the car as desired, which I think is a nice feature -- makes it easier to manage treadwear and tire inventories when everything is interchangeable. nJay 1993 325is 15x7 E36 wheels for sale (with or w/o 205/60-15 tires) 205/60-15 tires for sale (on or off 15x7 wheels) 225/50-16 M+S tires for sale > tomsfam wrote: > > I'd like to change my standard 15" wheels on my 4D '96 328i. I would like to > > buy 17". What can I fit in width, 8 or 8.5? I like look of wider on the rear. > ben keyes wrote: > a friend (Hi Jay) is running E36 M3 wheels with 235/40-17's & has no rubbing > issues that I know of. can't recall if they're 7.5", 8" or 8.5" tho. perhaps > he can comment on how they are vs. the 15" & 16" wheels that he has run on his > E36 coupe. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:58:09 -0400 From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: McLaren F1 Powerplant Tammer Farid writes: >hmmm, did someone else see the speedvision "classics" episode on this >the other night? Actually no I didn't, though the description of the program sounds familiar. I think I have seen it before. - -Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:19:00 -0400 From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB: E36 M3 wheels Hey everybody, A friend of mine is looking for M Contour wheels for his '97 (pretty sure) M3/2. His stock wheels were staggered (17x7.5 & 17x8.5) but he's content with getting 17x7.5's all around. If you've got a set or even just the stray wheel lying around, that's fine too. Tires aren't necessary. If you're in/around the Nashville area it's all gravy.... Steve Old Hickory & Smoky Mtn. Chapters _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:24:31 -0400 From: Mike Whitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> my nuts (was rollbar install) Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Double nutting does no good. Well, I've been double-nutted all my life, and I like to think that second one isn't just there for show. :) > The second nut stretches the bolt and loosens the first nut. Use a self locking nut >instead. Seriously, though, I don't buy the "stretches the bolt" argument. Seems to me that the second nut just stops the first one from moving. Granted, it's same thing that a locking nut accomplishes, but, if anything, the second nut would stretch the threads inside the first nut in the *tight* direction. To tell you the truth, though, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about my nuts, maybe you have more experience with that kind of thing than I do. :) Got a reference, or can someone else back up Gary's points? - -- Mike Whitney - [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Gum Racing - http://pws.prserv.net/whitney/nogum.html 89 BMW 325is, more nuts and balls than I have ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #4012 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . 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