[uucdigest] Sunday, July 15 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4019 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: double nutting - of park brake cables ["Brett Anderson" <brett@] [uuc] Re: Seat strut installation - Was: heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats ["Brett Anderson" <brett@koalamotorsport] [uuc] Re: heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats ["Brett Anderson" <brett@ko] [uuc] Re: Water pump date(s) [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] E30 M3 Parts for sale ["Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] I knew Jim's chips were good, but ...... ["SEAWOLF 97" <seawolf97@h] Re: [uuc] <E34> Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic. [Rob Levinson ] Re: [uuc] <E34> Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic. [Ed MacVaugh <] RE: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations ["James Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations ["Joseph Volpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] <E28>installing V1 comments [Brad Couvillon <fatdaddybmw@yahoo.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:59:18 -0400 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations I test drove an 840 with an automatic once. It isn't too slow but I have to say it does too good a job of insulating you from what it's doing. Near the bottom of an on-ramp to a highway I was thinking "what a pig" because the tires were howling and it was getting hard to keep it tracking. Then I looked at the speedo and was shocked to be doing nearly 80. Once on the highway I found myself cruising in the middle lane of three with some traffic. When my lane magically opened up in front of me I did the natural thing; I squashed the gas pedal. Hmm. Lots of interesting sounds as the slushbox made its selection and the engine picked up some but not much else. Say, why did everyone else suddenly start backing up? Hey! When did I hit triple digit speeds??? Personally this particular car took out all the things I like about driving. If that's normal I don't recommend it for an enthusiast. Geeeze From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Went and saw "The Score" today (recommended) and > Robert De Niro was driving an 8-er. I was wondering > how bad these cars were to own. Not thinking of > owning one, but I've heard they're really slow, etc., > but they appear to have pretty powerful engines so how > bad can they be? What more common car do they compare > to? Any ramblings are welcome. > > Neil Deshpande - fascinated by black 8-er! > http://www.neilwerke.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:55:21 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: double nutting - of park brake cables Neil, Most 91 and later BMW's use double nuts on the park brake cables. It prevents damage to the cables, that nylock nuts cause during tightening. - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > David: > > My parking brake cables on both the 88 iS and 89 iC > are anchored to the handle via nylocs. I just R&R'd > the entire parking brake system on the 88 iS so I > should know! > > Neil Deshpande > david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > See: parking brake cable attachment at parking brake > handle... > > Gary Derian wrote: > Double nutting only makes sense if you want the bolt > very loose. Then the only bolt stretch is between the nuts. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:52:25 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Seat strut installation - Was: heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats > From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Re: heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats > > Ben: > > ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "other than the flaky mechanical gas cylinder-assisted > adjustments (which I need to refresh on mine) I like > these seats better than the ones in the M coupe." > > Good luck! They are $40/piece and the seat needs 4 of > them, but you can get away with just two. Also, try > compressing them to get them in place. You'll have to > rig some something for that. Or just rent the special tool............... - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:11:28 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats Hey Levinson!!! It's called a seat belt warning!!!!! The switch in your seat was probably busted, 'cause we all know you wear your seatbelt. ;-) - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: heated Recaro-style E30 sport seats > > FWIW, there is some sort of occupant-sensor system, at least in some E28s. > > My '85 535i (with transplanted '88 power seats, a direct plug-in) had it, I > know because it went bad... started bonging at me whenever I was seated > until I unplugged the sensor plugged into the seat. Never could figure out > what it was for and the car was sold before I could dig into it further. > > - - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:46:48 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Water pump date(s) on 7/15/01 1:34 AM, "Harmon W. Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know exactly when BMW changed the water > pump on production E36s from plastic to metal impellers? > My '98 M3 was produced in 6/98. BMW switched from plastic to metal water pump impellers on the E36 during 5/96. Neil 96 M3 - Produced 5/96, ask me how I know... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 08:58:05 -0700 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 M3 Parts for sale >From my 89 M3... Full interior set in tan: Front seats, back seats, kick panels, door panels, rear panels, rear deck carpeting Hella euro ellipsoids (not the US ellipsoids) Rear speakers (in tan) Interior set: First $1,300 takes it all Ellipsoids: First $285... Rear speakers: $150... Or, $1,500 for all of it! Email me for pictures Chris 89 M3 P.S. I will not ship ANY of the interior pieces (too much of a hastle). _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 08:58:24 -0700 From: "SEAWOLF 97" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] I knew Jim's chips were good, but ...... from EBAY; A nice clean well running 325is with Limited Slip Differential, ABS, all power. Has new alternator, shocks, springs, struts, radiator, hoses, water pump, ignition coils. Only modifications are the DME Jim Conforti Chip which adds over 200HP and 200ftlbs of torque. Let see.... 200 hp for $249 ... $1.25 per Hp gained ?? My money is on the way. TOM _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:09:01 -0400 From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic. For about the same effort (maybe less on second thought), you could just wire in an all-new handsfree kit. Assuming you have a factory cell antenna, it should terminate as a standard coax cable in the passenger-side footwell. Take off the under-dash panel to access it. Motorola (assuming you have a Motorola phone) makes a couple of different hands-free kits. When I got mine, it was the "serious" one designed for professional installation... assuming you need a professional to connect power, ground, mic, and antenna wires and mount the phone bracket using existing screws in the dash! The microphone wire is run around the trim, totally out of sight, the little mic sticks out from the grab handle above the door, and the speaker box is tucked up in the passenger-side footwell. This kit was something like $300. The bracket mounts in a way that does not damage the car; on either side of the console, the vertical plastic trim panels pop off and reveal a couple of screws. The bracket uses these screws and then the trim plate snaps back on. I made one change from the kit as-supplied. Motorola wants the phone mounted on the right side of the console, up high. I did not like that sort of visibility, so I mounted it on the left side, down low using a bracket I fabricated. You can see what the installation looks like here: http://www.robertlevinson.com/M5_Touring/images/cellphone/ Since then, I saw a less-expensive kit they offer (I suppose in response to all the new NY legislation-mandated hands-free customers) for around $70. Seems to be very similar (a speaker box, mic, bracket, wires). You could either use your existing mic if it plugs in the same way, or use either of the above kits (or whatever similar kit works with your car). - - Rob > From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] <E34> Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic. > > I have the old analog phone in my 92 M5. I'd like to set up my cell phone to > work in the car, but use the existing mic (neatly pinned at the a-pillar). > I'm not super-keen on doing this, just exploring as I try and not take any > calls in the car, but if someone has done it, I'd like any pointers. > > Neil Deshpande > http://www.neilwerke.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:18:14 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic. A couple of insights regarding this: Verizon currently only has one hands free kit for the current crop of tri-mode phones and that is the one Rob has shown, for the Motorola StarTac. The existing BMW analog only antenna is not appropriate for a digital phone. The effective length of a digital antenna is different, because the frequency is different that the signal is transmitted on. Some microphones are noise canceling in that they subtract the background noise from what is received through the front of the microphone. Thus the engine sound is not heard by the person you are calling. The standard BMW microphone is not noise canceling. Ed Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks wrote: > > For about the same effort (maybe less on second thought), you could just > wire in an all-new handsfree kit. > > Assuming you have a factory cell antenna, it should terminate as a standard > coax cable in the passenger-side footwell. Take off the under-dash panel to > access it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:53:19 -0700 From: "James Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations I've also driven an 840 steptronic ('97), and wasn't terribly impressed. However, I owned an e32 750iL for a while, and would think that the available 6-speed mated to the 5.4 liter V12 would offset a lot of the insulation in an 850. The V12 has tons of torque. In the e32 (with the 5.0 liter), first gear topped at about 55 MPH, but even so surprised many a sports car from a stop light. I'm sure the insulation can be further reduced by a better suspension setup. The biggest drawbacks to any 7 or 8 seem to be maintenance costs---they can be a bit overwhelming. But getting the 6-speed in the 8 would probably be a mitigating factor. Cheerio, James Nelson... > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Donahue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 4:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:01:52 -0400 From: "Joseph Volpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations Neil, Other than the 850CSi (which should be called an M8), 8 series cars are slow, expensive, and didn't handle very well. The best to own are the last two years...1996 and 1997 840Ci. It has the updated 4.4 liter V8, and came very well equiped. It was very reliable. It also came with a somewhat soft suspension and fat tires that wanderered alot. I owned a 97 840Ci because I did love it's looks, but I had to upgrade the suspension with a Dinan set up. The car I replaced it with and the car that blew it outof the market place was Lexus's SC400. I had a 93 SC400 that for the money and a 250HP 4.0 V8 was hard to beat. (The SC is built on a Supra chasis) I just sold my 840Ci and picked up a 2000 SC400 with 290 HP and a fantastic 5 Speed auto. It's my only NON BMW in my stable! Joe 00 SC400 92 535i Sharked 87 535is Sharked Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 22:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E31> 8-Series Ruminations Gruppe: Went and saw "The Score" today (recommended) and Robert De Niro was driving an 8-er. I was wondering how bad these cars were to own. Not thinking of owning one, but I've heard they're really slow, etc., but they appear to have pretty powerful engines so how bad can they be? What more common car do they compare to? Any ramblings are welcome. Neil Deshpande - fascinated by black 8-er! http://www.neilwerke.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:24:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28>installing V1 comments <<<<Brad, I hope you didn't take my previous email (re:you did waaay too much work) in the wrong way. I was just commenting...since you did post your results on this list.>>>> If the wrong way is taking offense to it, then no I didn't. It's hard to offend me. <<<<I want to also comment on your recent postulations about putting it on the passenger seat headrest, etc. Now, I don't know about you, but that would bother the crap out of me.>>>> As of Sunday afternoon, I moved it back to the sunroof opening. After an hour or two of having it by the headrest, I got damn tired of moving the headrest up and down every time I wanted to put the V1 back or take it off. This is a trial and error deal, so I've ruled out the headrest! :-) <<<<That is certainly not a suitable location if you are looking for any kind of cleanliness in your approach.>>>> I agree now that I've tried it, lol. Call me stubborn. <<<<If you are going to all this trouble to hide this and that and hardwire it, why would you put it in such a ridiculous [Brad inserts: headrest is a horrible idea, you're an idiot for doing that, yada x3]>>>> OUCH! <<<<You claim the passenger sunvisor location would not work for you>>>> I'm actually starting to consider the sunvisor now, lol. After I've heard about the sunvisor as an almost unanimous decision from the people that have replied (publically and privately) to this topic, I'm finally coming around, lol. <<<<People will be scared to sit down in your car in fear of cranial radiation...LOL. Passenger sunvisor location= no showing wires, excellent reception, clean, tidy, and semi-permanent (unless your passenger needs to use the visor). Passenger headrest= wires hanging off the ceiling, messy and untidy appearance, totally in the way.>>>> Ok ok ok, I understand. I'll try the sunvisor at some point this week. <<<<I'm sure I don't understand your train of thought here...>>>> LoL no one does. <<<<I don't want this to end with your headliner and 10lbs of wire falling over your eyes at 100mph on the freeway causing you to bump someone and messing up that M badge on your euro grill :-)>>>> Okay, maybe I ought to put the M badge BACK ON. That way, everyone will ACTUALLY HAVE A REASON to pester me about this, lol. <<<<Sorry...couldn't resist...that was in jest, Brad. Now, I have one other opinion...it is time for a drink.>>>> Just don't go driving that M5 after the drink, k? ;-) <<<<By the way, I love your photo gallery of E28 cars. There are a few gorgeous euro E28's on there..>>>> Yes, I agree. All of the cars' owners are on the Bimmer.org e28 board. The e28 board is still full of maturity. . . except when the really young (as in, younger than me) ones start talking about street racing and nitrous ARGH! Peace, Brad Couvillon '87 528e (no ///M badge, V1 location still up in the air) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #4019 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . 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