[uucdigest]         Wednesday, July 18 2001         Volume 03 : Number 4032



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

  Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?  [Jim Ochi <]
  Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?  ["Michael L]
  [uuc] techhy question(E36 ASC+T)           [[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart)]
  [uuc] Torn Seat Question                [Terry Longrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  RE: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?  ["Bill Matt]
  Re: [uuc] Torn Seat Question          ["Rosario DeCicco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] <wob> Re:  return of Poodleboy!!!                  [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] Re:  Cool E36 (AC won't turn off)                  [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:18:56 -0700
From: Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?

At 05:33 PM 7/18/2001 -0700, Michael Lawrence wrote:
>Put in some calls to some salvage yards, maybe pay for it out of your
>pocket, then replace it with the new one when it finally shows up.   You
>will be able to sell it easily at that time too.  Airbags are almost like
>money around body shops.

I was down at my local salvage yard, waiting at the counter.  Another 
customer comes in and asks for an airbag - the counter guy tells the 
customer that they aren't allowed by law to sell salvaged airbags and 
proceeded to sell the guy a new one.  Don't know if they really can't sell 
salvaged airbags, or if this was a clever sales ploy.  The place is pretty 
reputable and has always treated me fairly, so I tend to think that this 
wasn't a sleazy ploy and that the guy was telling the truth.  Anyway, maybe 
someone in the biz could let us know....

Jim Ochi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:37:15 -0700
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?

I was in the biz and sold everyone we got in a matter of hours.  I know
catalytic converters were a nono to sell, but airbags go like crazy.

mike

but then again it might have been illegal but i would imagine someone would
have said something with the number we sold/bought.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?


> At 05:33 PM 7/18/2001 -0700, Michael Lawrence wrote:
> >Put in some calls to some salvage yards, maybe pay for it out of your
> >pocket, then replace it with the new one when it finally shows up.   You
> >will be able to sell it easily at that time too.  Airbags are almost like
> >money around body shops.
>
> I was down at my local salvage yard, waiting at the counter.  Another
> customer comes in and asks for an airbag - the counter guy tells the
> customer that they aren't allowed by law to sell salvaged airbags and
> proceeded to sell the guy a new one.  Don't know if they really can't sell
> salvaged airbags, or if this was a clever sales ploy.  The place is pretty
> reputable and has always treated me fairly, so I tend to think that this
> wasn't a sleazy ploy and that the guy was telling the truth.  Anyway,
maybe
> someone in the biz could let us know....
>
> Jim Ochi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:49:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart)
Subject: [uuc] techhy question(E36 ASC+T)

     Ok, so enuf of my legal smatterings (I'm shutting up and paying up
to 3 grand for a good lawyer for my driving troubles=I can hear it
now..."Baliff, whack his p-- p--!"..Cheech & Chong!)
     I've a 96 328 ic, with a 3.23 LSD diff. from an M3, as well as 235
40 17 wheels, and aftermarket rear rotors and pads.  Lately, and quite
intermittently, yet ALWAYS from a standing stop, I've seen the traction
control kick on, and felt what I believe are the brakes and ASC+T whole
shebang actually kick in, even though the road is smooth and dry.  The
first time this happened, I was dropping my wife off at a clinic, and
she looked under the car, so convinced we both were that something was
caught underneath, offering resistance and a weird drone.  In further
step offs from a standing start, I've noticed the warning triangle with
the exclamation point flash on and off, but no OBC warning came
on..also, it is flashing with an even rhythm, not like when on uneven or
icy/snowy turf underfoot, where it flashes variably as the ASC+T
presumably & normally has kicked in and out as conditions warranted.
     My assumption is, in this case, to take it to Foreign Motors West
in Natick Ma (across the street, basically, and great for in warranty
work but bye bye costs beyond such..IMNSHO), since they have the million
dollar computer to do diagnosics...am I wrong to assume that this fault
will be traceable by the BMW diagnostic computer?  If it is not likely
to be a computer trackable electronic code, I'd rather take it to Jim
Albright's Mighty Alewife Motors in Cambridge, since he is
knowledgeable, way cheaper, and the local Roundel/BMWCCA tech rep-but he
doesn't have the computer, much less much high tech equipment, or room,
in his shop.
     My first salient question, assuming I go to a warranty/BMW auth.
dealer, is..are they likely to give me a lot of malarky about the M3
diff being responsible..it is a year or so old, and I've had no trouble
to date, but I realize it is not really compatible with the M3's
intended ASC+T setup, which is somewhat different.  Is it possible a
failing diff could trigger the ASC+T, thus my problem is mechanically
conspired, rather than electronic? 
     My second question, also murky, is that I replaced my rear rotors
and pads with aftermarket parts through a really shitty Shell dealer..I
mean, these guys pulled off the emergency brake clip trying to remove
the old rotors..I drove to Phila, and visited 3 dealerships before they
pulled the brake parts apart and found the emergency brake pin spinning
around the hub, making violin noises and snapping sounds all the way to
Upper Darby!  So, uh, is it possible my brakes, being aftermarket, are
somehow clamping down, or otherwise causing some resistance which, in
turn causing the OBC to sense uneven conditions, and activate
accelleration retard and brake controls?  Jeez, The Devil's in My Car
(Fred Schnieder)!
    Final query of dealership hassle likliehood--the tires...since
they're 235 40 17's, is it possible my OBC is sensing anything to do
with these larger wheels, etc.  I sincerely doubt it, since all of the
faulty ASC+T activations have occurred at 5-10mph max, always from a
standing start, and quite intermittently..
     So, if I need a new ASC+T chip or computer, any ideas how much it
might cost?  I have BMW extended warranty, but I guess I'd like some
economic measure of how much resistance-and possible excuses-I might
hear from my dealer about its replacement, vis a vis my car's
modifications.
Thanks-traction control really sucks when it works when you don't
require it!
John

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:30:39 -0500
From: Terry Longrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Torn Seat Question

Hello All,

I have an '86 325 (plain jane eta) with a torn seat bottom that I'd like 
to fix.  It has the standard blue vinyl (Pacific Blue Leatherette in 
BMW-speak) seats and the tear is on the drivers side seat and is fairly 
significant. i.e. doesn't look to be repairable.  The parts guy at the 
local dealer said that the blue vinyl seat bottom cover is NLA - no 
longer available but that he could get one in black.  He then suggested 
that a good auto upholstry shop might be able to dye the black one blue 
or make a new one using the old one as a template.

I was just currious if anyone else had done such a fix and how you went 
about it.  Are there any alternative sources for the BMW seat cover? 
Can black vinyl really be dyed blue?  I know I could buy a set of seat 
covers but, IMHO, they never seem to look "right" no matter how good 
they fit.

Thanks,

Terry
'86 325 (winter)
'95 M3 (summer)

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:51:21 -0400
From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?

Michael Lawrence said:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?
>
>
> I was in the biz and sold everyone we got in a matter of hours.  I know
> catalytic converters were a nono to sell, but airbags go like crazy.
>
> mike
>
> but then again it might have been illegal but I would imagine
> someone would
> have said something with the number we sold/bought.
The cats are illegal to sell used. I think "safety devices" might be legal
but an individual business might choose not to expose itself to ridiculous $
liability risk from the insane "strict liability" standards that have
evolved in the US out of case law over the last 50 years.

You know get drunk, run your car head on into a family in a minivan, break
your back and sue a salvage yard for selling you a defective used air bag.
Oooooppsss..... went into rant mode sorry.

Bill Matthews
Hockessin DE
00 M Geeze
some Volvos

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:50:53 -0400
From: "Rosario DeCicco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Torn Seat Question

Terry:
            Call Paul W at 1 800 650 2002 of Maximillian Importing, tell him
all the info of your car and he will really tell you what is still available

Rosario DeCicco

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Longrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:30 PM
Subject: [uuc] Torn Seat Question


> Hello All,
>
> I have an '86 325 (plain jane eta) with a torn seat bottom that I'd like
> to fix.  It has the standard blue vinyl (Pacific Blue Leatherette in
> BMW-speak) seats and the tear is on the drivers side seat and is fairly
> significant. i.e. doesn't look to be repairable.  The parts guy at the
> local dealer said that the blue vinyl seat bottom cover is NLA - no
> longer available but that he could get one in black.  He then suggested
> that a good auto upholstry shop might be able to dye the black one blue
> or make a new one using the old one as a template.
>
> I was just currious if anyone else had done such a fix and how you went
> about it.  Are there any alternative sources for the BMW seat cover?
> Can black vinyl really be dyed blue?  I know I could buy a set of seat
> covers but, IMHO, they never seem to look "right" no matter how good
> they fit.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Terry
> '86 325 (winter)
> '95 M3 (summer)
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:12:18 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] <wob> Re:  return of Poodleboy!!!

Hi Eric, welcome back.  I too just recently rejoined the madness here in
UUC Land, whereupon I asked if any new topics had been recently banned.
Wouldn't want to run afowl, or afoul, of the monitors now, would we?  No
one replied to that request, so I guess we're still free to discuss the
usual, like how many Standard Poodles you can get in your Touring (OBMWC).

Topic du jour is which tires someone or other should buy.  He's already
made the decision, but input continues to pour forth from owners of
SP8000s, Kumho Supras and Bridgestone RE730s, all of which are apparently
fine tires with slightly different attributes.  There's also a thread Neil
D started about words in the English language that are derived from the
Hindi, including some unpronouncable soup name that everyone except me knew
about.
Powell was mad at someone and left the list.
Haven't seen any flaming lately.
Don't know if anyone was booted, probably not.
I could arrange to drag your Touring with a D9 cat if you'd like.
Blue.  On a BMW, Estoril blue.
Cause it looks nice.  Stands out without asking for a speeding ticket while
standing still.
n/a
I guess, if you can call Powell's departure a "divorce".
Don't know.
Still unobtainable.
Working on getting pix of my E30 to the UUC Members site, not there yet,
don't know that you'd really call my Delphin gray E30 either kewl or phat.

Let us know if you have any other questions, especially if they just happen
to have some BMW content, which was quite minimal in both your post and my
reply.  BTW, why do we care what you eat for breakfast?

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:25:52 -0400
>From: "Eric Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] return of Poodleboy!!!
>
>Howdy
>OK, guys and gals...
>
>I'm back on the Digest, prepared to give inDigestion!
<snip>
>
>So, what's the topic du jour?
>Who's mad at who?
>What was the last flame war?
>Anyone get booted recently?
>Anyone wanna drag race my Touring?
>What's your favorite color?
>Why?
>Why not?
>Any divorces caused by excessive "posting"?
>Any new relationship caused by private "posting"?
>Is there a know source for unobtainium yet?
>Any really kewl, phat rides that ya want to share pics of?
>
>cheerios!
>eric
>Eric Benjamin
>98 M3/4
>93 E34 T w/S50, G280, 3.23 LSD, CAI next
>99 VW Passat wagon 1.8T 5 speed(For Sale)
>2 Standard Poodles that'll kick yer ass

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:15:31 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re:  Cool E36 (AC won't turn off)

Wendall, I'm guessing that there is a relay that engages the compressor
clutch.  Find it and pull it.  If the cold air continues to blow, it is
probably a stuck compressor clutch.  If the A/C disengages without the
relay, the problem is in the circuit that turns on the A/C, like a switch
or the relay.

HTH,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:22:54 -0600
>From: "Wendall Siemens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] Cool E36 (AC won't turn off)
>
>Hello all,
>
>I am needing a few pointers on what to check (where to aim the hammer).
>
>My 92 325i is now blowing cold air all the time. Turning the AC button on
>and off does nothing. Would this most likely be the compressor clutch not
>disengaging or an electrical problem?
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Wendall
>92 325i (Not ready for winter!)

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