[uucdigest] Wednesday, July 18 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4033 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Button vs Montoya = flinging poo in F1 [Ryan Keefe <rkeefe@milladv.] [uuc] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: [uuc] Torn Seat Question [Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Button vs Montoya = flinging poo in F1 ["Ron Katona" <rkatona@b] [uuc] Eric's Return ["KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] techhy question(E36 ASC+T) [nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] all your base [nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] RE: techy question ["KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: return of Poodleboy!!! ["Paul England" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Selling Cats & Airbags (was: When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?) ["Stan Jackson Jr.] [uuc] Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ["eric benjamin" <ericb@al] [uuc] Re: Getting Air Bag for My 540/6 [Donn and Sally York <dyork@megsin] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:26:27 -0700 From: Ryan Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Button vs Montoya = flinging poo in F1 >From www.f1.com . Not a bad point... =Ryan Jenson Button's manager, David Robertson, has launched a scathing attack on Juan Pablo Montoya's performance so far this season. The Colombian took Button's seat at Williams this year, and could prevent the Briton from returning to the Grove-based outfit in 2003, after his loan period at Benetton runs out. "Just because Montoya's at the front, in a car which should be up there with the best, everyone is saying 'Wow!'" Robertson told the Sunday Mirror newspaper. "People forget Jenson overtook 10 people last year during the American Grand Prix in Indianapolis and he was as quick as (Ralf) Schumacher in the wet. All this hysteria about Montoya is unbelievable. Let's face it, he's bent the bloody car enough times so I don't understand all this rubbish that's flying around about him." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:17:40 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donn, can't you just take the car and drive it until the part comes in? Waiting a day or two for a part is one thing, waiting almost a month is something else, and very unreasonable. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:36:36 -0500 >From: Donn and Sally York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day? > >I am still awaiting my '98 540/6 from the dealer. The left side head >restraint air bag is out of stock in North America. They don't know >when they'll get it. So far it's been 23 days since my road debris >incident. The person I spoke with at BMW NA Customer Relations has been > >monumentally unimpressive so far. Any ideas on how to get my dealer >this part so they can fix my car and give it back to me? Any names of >helpful or senior people in the BMWNA Customer Relations organization? >I'd kind of like to increase the enjoyment/frustration ratio of the car >from it's current ratio of 4 hours: 23 days. > >Thanks, > >Donn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:47:21 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Torn Seat Question I have successfully used two alternatives in your situation. Buy the rear seat back cover or seat cushion cover and dismantle it to use the parts to fix the front seat. Rear seats see less wear and the demand on the parts system is less, so they remain available longer. That being said, it won't likely help you since the stitching was spaced differently than it was on the front seats. Each of the two patterns of material are still available by the yard, as is the welting strip. 51 93 1 911 204 for the vinyl around the seat and the matching parts on the seat itself. 51 93 1 911 210 for the other pattern of material, 51 94 1 937 534 for the welting (synthetic strip). HTH, Ed Terry Longrie wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have an '86 325 (plain jane eta) with a torn seat bottom that I'd like > to fix. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:58:04 -0400 From: "Ron Katona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Button vs Montoya = flinging poo in F1 However, also being reported is that Ralf disobeyed team orders in not letting Juan pass with the faster car on more than one occasion this season including last weekend. - -- Ron Katona From: "Ryan Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >From www.f1.com . Not a bad point... > =Ryan > > > Jenson Button's manager, David Robertson, has launched a scathing attack > > on Juan Pablo Montoya's performance so > far this season. The Colombian took Button's seat at Williams this year, > > and could prevent the Briton from returning to the Grove-based outfit in > > 2003, after his loan period at Benetton runs out. > > "Just because Montoya's at the front, in a car which should be up there > with the best, everyone is saying 'Wow!'" Robertson told the Sunday > Mirror newspaper. "People forget Jenson overtook 10 people last year > during the American Grand Prix in Indianapolis and he was as quick as > (Ralf) Schumacher in the wet. All this hysteria about Montoya is > unbelievable. Let's face it, he's bent the bloody car enough times so I > don't understand all this rubbish that's flying around about him." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:06:43 -0700 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Eric's Return Eric, Pay up...... that wasn't a serious post. Nothing on the Digest is out of whack at this time....... really. Even our resident curmudgeon has somehow been civilized? The last interesting threads concerned BMW design, fastest attained speed (BMW or otherwise), peeing on the constables lawn, hey these here springs ain't right, double nuts (and I don't mean Imus), and the source for Unobtainium (turns out to be Valhala and Ulf is there now guarding it..... if he's sober). - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:36:37 -0400 From: nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] techhy question(E36 ASC+T) Could be lots of things, as that is a multi-faceted question you pose. If it is only happening on one side (brake modulation), it may be a wheel speed sensor. If it's all around, I'd say control unit. My $.02 for tonight. Jay 1993 325is <-no ASC+T problems. no ASC+T. John Hart wrote: > Ok, so enuf of my legal smatterings (I'm shutting up and paying up > to 3 grand for a good lawyer for my driving troubles=I can hear it > now..."Baliff, whack his p-- p--!"..Cheech & Chong!) > I've a 96 328 ic, with a 3.23 LSD diff. from an M3, as well as 235 > 40 17 wheels, and aftermarket rear rotors and pads. Lately, and quite > intermittently, yet ALWAYS from a standing stop, I've seen the traction > control kick on, and felt what I believe are the brakes and ASC+T whole > shebang actually kick in, even though the road is smooth and dry.<snip> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:53:54 -0400 From: nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] all your base IN AD 2101 war was beginning. Captain: What happen? Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb. Operator: We get signal. Captain: What! Operator: Main screen turn on. Captain: It's you. Cats: How are you gentlemen!! Cats: All your base are belong to us. Cats: You are on the way to destruction. Captain: What you say!! Cats: You have no chance to survive make your time. Cats: Ha ha ha ha.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:04:02 -0700 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: techy question John, Sounds like the idiots that did the brakes for you might have disturbed or otherwise botched something on the ABS sensor and therefore it begins to affect the traction control. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:26:11 -0400 From: "Paul England" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: return of Poodleboy!!! Welcome back, Eric. I'll fill you in as best I can (I was on vacation last week, so I'm not 100% filled in myself!). **See astrisks** :) > From: "Eric Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] return of Poodleboy!!! <snip> > vouch for my sincerity by posting a cash reward for anyone who catches me > not being deadly serious. I will pay .10 cash, perhaps a combo of nickles **Dude, you are SO gonna owe me** > So, what's the topic du jour? **BMWs (duh?). Oh, and Hindi words in English or something like that.** > Who's mad at who? **Wouldn't that be WHOM, Eric?** > What was the last flame war? **I dunno, but I think Powell's still pissed** > Anyone get booted recently? **Dunno that one either** > Anyone wanna drag race my Touring? **Bring it on, Poodleboy** > What's your favorite color? **What's the airspeed velocity of a swallow?** > Why? **They could grip it by the husks.** > Why not? **Are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory?** > Any divorces caused by excessive "posting"? **Far too perilous** > Any new relationship caused by private "posting"? **Not that I'll tell you -wink, wink, nudge, nudge** > Is there a know source for unobtainium yet? **Yes, but we've been sworn to secrecy** > Any really kewl, phat rides that ya want to share pics of? **Neil's iS is running again, but his M5 isn't...** > > cheerios! **Not just for breakfast anymore...** <snip> Good to have you in the fold again, chap. When's the next irresponsible ATL get-together? - -Paul England :) 97 M3/2 w/S52USB32, 3.23 and... oh I guess it came that way! :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:39:10 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Selling Cats & Airbags (was: When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day?) > Bill Matthews said: > The cats are illegal to sell used. I think "safety devices" might be legal > but an individual business might choose not to expose itself to ridiculous $ > liability risk from the insane "strict liability" standards that have > evolved in the US out of case law over the last 50 years. > > You know get drunk, run your car head on into a family in a minivan, break > your back and sue a salvage yard for selling you a defective used air bag. > Oooooppsss..... went into rant mode sorry. Bill, If it is an airbag and a minivan with a family is involved, they'll look for a class action lawsuit. The salvage yard gets sued when the guy crashes into the woods after selling him a catalytic convertor. Stan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:58:04 -0700 From: "eric benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:51:21 -0400 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day? Michael Lawrence said: > > > I was in the biz and sold everyone we got in a matter of hours. I know > catalytic converters were a nono to sell, but airbags go like crazy. > > mike > > but then again it might have been illegal but I would imagine > someone would > have said something with the number we sold/bought. The cats are illegal to sell used. I think "safety devices" might be legal but an individual business might choose not to expose itself to ridiculous $ liability risk from the insane "strict liability" standards that have evolved in the US out of case law over the last 50 years. You know get drunk, run your car head on into a family in a minivan, break your back and sue a salvage yard for selling you a defective used air bag. Oooooppsss..... went into rant mode sorry. Bill Matthews *********** Howdy all, Well, we all know that this ridiculous expense that trial lawyers cause, is ultimately born by us, the insurance payers... All these sleaze-oid, PITA, money stealing, Dem. supporting, yellow page advert. (another different rant, based on moron lawyer suing the yellow pages, 'cause his picture wasn't pretty enough...) trial/liability/ambulance chasin' bottom feeding, weasel, POS, waste of O2, lack of accountability (don't get me started on the faux sanctions the ABA or local Bar throws at them), land shark( hi, Jim C., no relation at all!), poodle poop idiots with a license, lawyers (hi Raf!). So, anywho, my insurance, full, very heavy coverage, for my cars is $1600 every 6 months. My big, unobtainium question is how much lower this cost would be if we instituted a frivolous lawsuit "loser pays", decided by judge(s), system? You would still get your day in court if you had a reasonable case, but suing over "you sold me a used part, made me sign a waiver over reliability and safety, I installed it my self with tweezers and a blow torch, and it didn't work right, so it must NOT be my fault" morons... rant way off, eric 98 M3/4 93 E34 T w/ S50, G280, 3.23 LSD, CAI next 99 VW Passat wagon, 18.t 5 speed (for sale) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:07:11 -0500 From: Donn and Sally York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Getting Air Bag for My 540/6 I'll talk to the dealer, but they won't repair the tranny -- replace only -- and they won't release the car without fixing the air bags (liability concern), so I kinda doubt they'll put in a "used" air bag. Donn > > At 05:33 PM 7/18/2001 -0700, Michael Lawrence wrote: > >Put in some calls to some salvage yards, maybe pay for it out of your > >pocket, then replace it with the new one when it finally shows up. You > >will be able to sell it easily at that time too. Airbags are almost like > >money around body shops. > > I was down at my local salvage yard, waiting at the counter. Another > customer comes in and asks for an airbag - the counter guy tells the > customer that they aren't allowed by law to sell salvaged airbags and > proceeded to sell the guy a new one. Don't know if they really can't sell > salvaged airbags, or if this was a clever sales ploy. The place is pretty > reputable and has always treated me fairly, so I tend to think that this > wasn't a sleazy ploy and that the guy was telling the truth. Anyway, maybe > someone in the biz could let us know.... > > Jim Ochi > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:37:15 -0700 > From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] When Will I Get to Enjoy My Car for the Second Day? > > I was in the biz and sold everyone we got in a matter of hours. I know > catalytic converters were a nono to sell, but airbags go like crazy. > > mike > > but then again it might have been illegal but i would imagine someone would > have said something with the number we sold/bought. ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #4033 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . 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