[uucdigest]         Wednesday, July 25 2001         Volume 03 : Number 4056



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

  Re: [uuc] Thermometer query         ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Re: E30 Wheels & Question(s)                         [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Re: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps         ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Re:  Insurance  (was E30 M3 Bumper cover needed!!!)  ["Stan Jackson ]
  Re: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps         ["Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] engine rebuilding links wanted  ["Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <robert]
  [uuc] E30 Cabrio Sought, Preferably DC-Metro Area  ["Noe, Steve (CIT)" <no]
  [uuc] Mechanic/Shop in the LA area                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] What needs done after 4-5 years in storage?      [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] Ofest gathering              ["bob thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Any VW owners out there?                 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] Re: <E28> I am now the proud owner of a '87 528e :)  [krowley@mindsp]
  Re: [uuc] Euro E36 lighting=once more getting to the point  [John Fireston]
  [uuc] E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats?  ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Re: [uuc] E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats?  ["Gary Derian" <gderian@amer]
  [uuc] Re: Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic  [Felix Vicente <felix]
  [uuc] Re: Thermometer query             [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:57:17 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Thermometer query

The emissivity of the object being measured is important.  Make sure you get
one that can be calibrated for different things.

Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Does anyone out there have any experience with the new "non contact"
> thermometers? The prices vary a great deal, I do not need 1000 features. I
am
> planning on using it for other things than just automobile applications.
Like
> tropical fish, soil temp, room temp, cat temp.
>
> Michel
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:02:29 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: E30 Wheels & Question(s)

In a message dated 7/24/01 8:56:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Presently all I got is a complete set of size 14's 4 lug basketweaves on
 'Marilyn'.  Can a set of 15's fit on 'her'?  Up to what width can she
 take?  >>

Heck Lawrence....while you're at it why not go "plus 2".....my son has 
205/50/16 Z-Rated Tires on 16"x7.5" TSW Hockenheim R's on his lowered '86 
325es (Eibach Pro-Kit springs with sport Bilsteins)....looks very nice and 
rides just fine!  You will also find a much better selection of tires in the 
16-inch size.

If you decide to go that route, you should roll those fender lips too <g>.

Good luck,

John Weese
BMW CCA #76646

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:51:22 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps

It is a common misconception that backpressure improves low speed torque.
At low speed, the engine power is quite low so there is essentially no
exhaust backpressure anyway.  The flaps and such are there for noise control
during cruise conditions.

Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Ok, I know we've been through this before... but let's talk (again) about
the
> flap on my 328 (which the computer pulls open at 2500rpm).  I'd have
thought
> this was in place to quiet down the exhaust note at idle (which it does,
takes
> out some of the rumble)... but are we saying here this is really to
improve
> low-end torque?
>
> - Kevin Jay
>   '96 328is, red/tan, 46K
>
> --- original message ---
>
> From: "Paul England" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps
>
> I think you're confusing variable valve technology with what Tammer is
> talking about. Mitsubishi does this on some of the more exotic
turbo-charged
> cars, but a more common example is the Nissan Maxima. It has a spring
loaded
> 'door' in the muffler that opens at revs for better flow (more hp), but is
> closed when the engine isn't producing enough exhaust to push it open, to
> aid in low-end torque.
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:00:49 -0400
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:  Insurance  (was E30 M3 Bumper cover needed!!!)

This message apparently never made it to the Digest for some reason.  I
apologize if it made it to some of you the first time.

Stan


Mark Williams said,

>have them do an estimate and see what your company would
> bid to have done for the repairs.. You are not at fault in the accident,
> so it is not going to hurt you if you submit a claim with you company
> (unless maybe you have GEICO or something..)

Wow!  Even you hate GEICO!  Digesters take note!
(Mark is an insurance man)

Stan


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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:18:14 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps

Yes, particularly Switzerland.

Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I had always heard that the only purpose for the exhaust flaps was to meet
> the very stringent Euro drive by noise standards. But then maybe it was
just
> an Urban legend.....
>
> Bill Matthews
> Hockessin DE
> 00 M Geeze
> some Volvos
>
> > Ok, I know we've been through this before... but let's talk
> > (again) about the
> > flap on my 328 (which the computer pulls open at 2500rpm).  I'd
> > have thought
> > this was in place to quiet down the exhaust note at idle (which
> > it does, takes
> > out some of the rumble)... but are we saying here this is really
> > to improve
> > low-end torque?

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:27:38 -0400
From: "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] engine rebuilding links wanted

If anyone has links, phone numbers, etc.
For places that do engine rebuilding
(short block and long) send them on over.
The link below shows what I mean.
Seems there is at least 2 members
currently looking into short block work.
Brett?

http://www.racetep.com/engsend.html

Thanks,
1st

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:53:31 -0400
From: "Noe, Steve (CIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E30 Cabrio Sought, Preferably DC-Metro Area

A friend is seeking an E30 Cabrio.  It appears he will have to get one with
an auto or he will never hear the end of from his manual-hating wife.  That
rules out the 318i.

Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:14:48 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Mechanic/Shop in the LA area

Hi Gang,

Does anyone know of any good/honest mechanics/shops in the Los Angeles area? I'm 
trying to get my car (1988 325is) back to running shape after 4-5 years in storage.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Su

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:18:23 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] What needs done after 4-5 years in storage?

Hi Gang,

My 1988 325is has been in storage for 4-5 years and I now need to bring it back into 
running condition.  Aside from a new battery, timing belt, all the fluids changed, 
valve adjustment, some (if not all) belts and hoses changed, what other areas should I 
work on? Any suggestions are appreciated, as I do not want to get "hosed" at the shop.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Su

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:24:46 
From: "bob thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Ofest gathering

Last year at Ofest we had an enjoyable uuc get together at a Greenville 
brewpub. Does anyone have suggestions for the same at Waterville Valley? See 
you there.                                                 Bob Thomas- '94 
530i,lowered- '74 2002 -'71VW conv. for sale -'94 Dodge ram 4x4

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:14:36 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Any VW owners out there?

>>Any idea what this "gen IV Jetta" might have for a shift knob?

Just an (un)educated guess but his knob is probably screwed on, my A2 GTi's
is and my A3 GTi's was.  Hey you think he'll trade me that shift knob for a
Momo one?  Is it in pristine shape?  I have a Momo short anatomic or a Momo
Phantom Carbon (the cat's ass of shift knobs) to trade for it.  :-)

Carlos
91 M3
85 GTi

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:19:01 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: <E28> I am now the proud owner of a '87 528e :)

Rob had some excellent advice for the 528e, but I would make one different 
recommendation.  On my '88 528e, I found that the 225/50-16 tires sapped way too much 
power for my tastes.  It made the car seem heavy and slower, although the cornering 
improved tremendously.  For daily driving chores, I would recommend either the 
205/55-16 or I would some 205/60-15 tires on E34 or E39 15" wheels.  Of course this is 
more personal preference than anything else.

Kevin Rowley
'97 Z3 1.9
Ex: '95 318ti; '89 535i; '88 528e; '79 528i

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:39:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Euro E36 lighting=once more getting to the point

On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, John Hart wrote:

> So, while my inquiries may have sounded mundane, I thought it fair to
> see if anyone could qualitatively state the difference in lighting
> effectiveness between the ZKM and Bosch for example..aren't there any
> Euro listers who know more of the beam pattern differences than the
> manufacturer names?

Well, now that you have finally asked :), my dealer's parts manager doesn't
think there is much difference between the Bosch and ZKW E36 headlights.  He
is probably not biased toward one or the other as he sells both to support
what's already in a customer's car - for the same price, and I expect, the
same markup.  I have it on hearsay that one magazine found the Bosch
headlights tested better.  I may have the review somewhere in the archives.
If I find it, I'll let you guys know.

- -John
'96 318is


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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:08:07 -0400
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats?

When I was looking around for my Touring I ran across some ads proclaiming
their E34 sedans to have the fold down rear seats.  I was aware of the ski
bag but have never seen the rear seats fold down.  Are these people digging
into their grandmother's medicine cabinet?

Geeeze
'88 325is race car for sale
http://patdonahue.com/forsale

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:30:10 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats?

A fold down back seat was available in the E34, but I thought not in the US.

Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> When I was looking around for my Touring I ran across some ads proclaiming
> their E34 sedans to have the fold down rear seats.  I was aware of the ski
> bag but have never seen the rear seats fold down.  Are these people
digging
> into their grandmother's medicine cabinet?
>
> Geeeze
> '88 325is race car for sale
> http://patdonahue.com/forsale
>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:32:34 -0400
From: Felix Vicente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Wiring New Phones to Use Analog Phone Mic

> Uh, do you have a money tree in your backyard?  could you 
> send me a twig
> from it?  please?

well, if you can swing a 740, you can swing the phone. it's much cheaper
than, oh, a turbo or an engine swap, two things which no one on this list
seem to think are ever out of line. Also cheaper than *good* 18" wheels and
tires for that car.
 
> Would you not have thought it was not worth it when the parts 
> prices were
> mentioned before the work even started??

it was originally going to be $800 for the phone and I was going to install
it. Thanks to this *lovely* company making me fill in for an employee that
left in NJ for the last THREE MONTHS, I have not been home to do it. We
decided to let the dealer do it simply because of that. Otherwise labor
would have been $0.

> are the steering wheel buttons worth that much instead of 
> just using the
> phone buttons?

while you're driving, yes. Try it sometime. It's addictive. Also lets you
keep your eyes on the road. The voice activation was even better, although
that's not available when you convert.

> There are several good in car kits that have the same 
> features to a degree,
> just not the wheel functions and stereo mute functions.  But 
> at that price,
> a good installer could wire the radio to mute, play thru the 
> speakers etc
> etc etc.

but not the steering wheel or MID functions which are the most important
part.

> Just wondering what the desire was to part with that kind of 
> money for a
> almost outdated phone anyway?

My mother uses it to talk to the office (and her children) during her 60 min
each way commute. Usually about 300-400 mins a month. at $1/min vs.
$.25/min, that's $225-$300 savings a month using rough numbers. Phone will
pay for itself (assuming I can get Pac BMW to refund at least some of that
2nd wave of labor) within a year, easy. Since we plan on this car being a
long-term proposition (ie it stays until it is no longer feasible to keep it
running) the savings will add up.

When I bought the 7000, BMW was not promising any adapter kits for the older
E38s on the 8000. Thus I bought the 7000 before they ran out. Now, of
course, there is an 8000 kit that works.

- -Felix Vicente
Everglades Chapter (occasionally, have been stuck in Princeton NJ since
April)
'97 540/6 blk/blk, mine
'98 740 wht/sand, mother's
'95 525 calypso/parchment, sister's
'95 332 blk/blk, brother in law's 

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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:30:39 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Thermometer query

on 7/24/01 9:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anyone out there have any experience with the new "non contact"
> thermometers? The prices vary a great deal, I do not need 1000 features. I am
> planning on using it for other things than just automobile applications. Like
> tropical fish, soil temp, room temp, cat temp.
> Michel

These IR pyrometers work by measuring the radiated infra-red heat and
calculating temperature from that. In theory their accuracy is also a
function of the emissivity of the object being measured - black emits more
energy for the same temperature than white or shiny - but in practice I
haven't seen much difference when measuring lighter or darker parts of the
same object.

Other than the ability to read in the range you want (some don't read high
enough to measure brake or exhaust temperatures, you want a top end of at
least 750 deg F for that), the only really essential feature in my view is a
built-in laser aiming device. Otherwise it's hard to tell just where you're
measuring. For the same reason, a reasonably narrow field of view is
helpful.

A while back I got a one-time great deal on a Fluke 65 with memory which
normally retails for over $250, but I note that Griots Garage is offering a
decent seeming 0-500 deg F unit with laser aiming for just $99.

BTW, although a probe-type thermometer is said to be the device of choice
for measuring tire temps at the track, I've done a side-by-side comparison
with my IR pyrometer and found little difference between the two methods.

Neil
96 M3

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