[uucdigest] Wednesday, July 25 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4058 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: Weekend rants! !1. Wheel "reconditioning" contractual failures. [Smiller@bart.] [uuc] pictures of 325is and diablo vt ["Chris Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] looking at 140k mile 325is ["Steven Reed" <bimmersteven@hotmail] [uuc] Re: E46 Rear Camber [John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] please tell me what you think of my car ["Chris Scott" <scottycs@nc] RE: [uuc] Identifying proper DME for E30 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [uuc] Re: <E36> Paint Questions [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: <E28> I am now the proud owner of a '87 528e :) [nJay <bsa@] Re: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps [Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] please tell me what you think of my car ["Steven Reed" <bimmers] [uuc] Re: Ofest gathering ["Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Ofest gathering ["Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Thermometer query [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats? ["Brett Anderson" <brett@koa] [uuc] Re: <all> build dates ["Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:57:38 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Weekend rants! !1. Wheel "reconditioning" contractual failures. John, my reply to your rant: >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 22:42:12 -0400 (EDT) >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart) >Subject: [uuc] Weekend rants! !1. Wheel "reconditioning" contractual failures. > > Sorry for frothing the weekend gruppe groping, but no one will >likely remember Monday what's my latest complaint; Except for those of us who don't read this until Monday, in which case we'll now lose sleep all week worrying about your wheels... > I just got my M3 lightweight wheels from Rim and Wheel Works, in >Bath PA, and I feel I've really taken a bath. <snip> >..so tell me, capitalist >bretheren..should I pick on this company for a credit adjustment, b/c of >the failure to live up to their "good as factory" guarantees, or refuse >to pay altogether, claiming inferior quality of goods delivered not as >promised, not when promised, and not in keeping with OEM standards of >fit, finish and likely longevity? Anyone, anyone!? >John-96 328 is cabrio Well, I'm not an attorney and I don't play one on TV, but let's start with this: Are the company's promises in writing? If not, it is your word against theirs. While there are a lot of consumer protections in place that favor the consumer over the vendor, having the promises in writing would make it a lot easier to decide what to do next. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:02:47 -0400 From: "Chris Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] pictures of 325is and diablo vt Does anyone know where i could post some images for free? I can't remember the sites that have free image hosting. Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:25:03 -0400 From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] looking at 140k mile 325is >My goals for the car would be: fun daily driver keeping miles off >the M3 when I need to commute that when payed for would become a >club race or IT car. > >Assuming I were to do either of those two race activities with it, >would it find its way into a competitive but well-attended field? > >Thanks! > >-matt By all means, bother. They're alot of fun, easy to work on as a shadetree mechanic, and are very durable. The price really depends on condition, sounds a little high for an '87 but it /does/ has low miles. A friend of mine just bought an '88 325iS with 155k miles for $5,500 and it's a one-owner cherry. Steve '87 328iS fast, agile, etc '86 325e slow, ugly, broken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:01:43 -0700 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: E46 Rear Camber >> My brother has an E46 with the sport package. At 25k he had to replace >> his tires due to the inside tread being gone. He's a little upset he only >> got 25k on the OEM tires. Did he rotate his tires? If not, I can't imagine any car where I'd expect to see more than 25K miles. Supposedly there's something somewhere in the BMW owners manual about not rotating tires, but they're full of crap. John. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:37:47 -0400 From: "Chris Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] please tell me what you think of my car http://members8.clubphoto.com/chris419046/437982/owner-cd59.phtml its the red one, not the orange one!! even though i wish it was. Chris Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:43:45 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Identifying proper DME for E30 Here is the complete list of BMW models, motors, years and DME #s: http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/dmeapps.html alex f Neil Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Marc: > > My 1989 325iC 5-sp is a 173. My 1988 325iS is 153. > > Neil Deshpande > http://www.neilwerke.com > > *** > > "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My Roommate has a 1989 325ic automatic with a dead > DME. I was shopping for a used one, and came across a > couple different model numbers At the Zionsville site > (shameless plug from a satisfied customer). > > #153 Code: D3811 > #173 Code: D381 > > How do I tell which one is appropriate (beyond pulling > the old DME and looking for labeling on the casing? > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:59:40 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E36> Paint Questions on 7/23/01 7:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 1) I've heard I should either paint the whole car or not at all. One local > shop that does excellent work but only does accident/insurance work and would > probably only do the hood and "blend" with the two front fenders. Any > opinions? Should be imperceptible if done by a good paint guy. The results are all in the technique. > 2) Another local shop (Mexican guy who calls his shop "Fender Benders") did > a friend's '63 Vette and it's the most gorgeous paint job I've ever seen. > The car is midnite blue and the paint looked like it was 10 feet > deep....kinda like staring down into a deep, dark lake. I talked to them > today and he said he could do that to mine. It's a process called "color > sanding". His price is excellent. Entire car with the color sanding process > for $1050! I would think that prepping the whole car for painting (removal of trim, badges, bumper covers; sanding and cleaning) would eat up a bunch of that $1050. Paint shop labor in my low cost city runs $40-50/hour, and is much higher on either coast or in major metro areas. If they're charging less than that then something has to give. Did your friend do the prep work on the 'Vette himself? If so that $1050 might just have covered the painting part. Maybe. Automotive paint itself costs $125/gallon and up. > I haven't talked to the shop in #1 yet, but my bet is their cost > for the hood only will be close to this! In my area the cost to repaint the hood would be around $350. > Has anyone heard of or had any experience with this process? It's $300 more > for the color sanding but it's worth it! (Especially if someone elses > insurance is picking up the tab and this guy's price is so reasonable anyway). > They told me the only disadvantage is you can't take your car through a > mechanical car wash If this process isn't tough enough to go through a car wash, how can it be tough enough for your daily driver? Imagine yourself on the freeway behind a gravel truck... I'd bet that your friend's 63 'Vette is a collector's garage queen that never sees everyday service. Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:04:47 -0400 From: nJay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <E28> I am now the proud owner of a '87 528e :) Kevin, Thanks for the plug. I just happen to have posted some 205/60-15 tires for sale recently! :-) Jay 1993 325is [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rob had some excellent advice for the 528e, but I would make one different >recommendation. On my '88 528e, I found that the 225/50-16 tires sapped way too much >power for my tastes. It made the car seem heavy and slower, although the cornering >improved tremendously. For daily driving chores, I would recommend either the >205/55-16 or some 205/60-15 tires on E34 or E39 15" wheels. Of course this is more >personal preference than anything else. > > Kevin Rowley > '97 Z3 1.9 > Ex: '95 318ti; '89 535i; '88 528e; '79 528i ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:20:54 -1000 From: Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Exhaust flaps if i remember the discussion correctly, some people say they notice a slight loss of torque, but with more power in the higher revs...some people didnt notice any difference...i guess it all depends on your perception and butt-dyno...i dont think it will increase torque to any *significant* degree however, but that's just my asshol...er...opinion... jay- Mr. Ghetto Fabulous... "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" wrote: > Ok, I know we've been through this before... but let's talk (again) about the > flap on my 328 (which the computer pulls open at 2500rpm). I'd have thought > this was in place to quiet down the exhaust note at idle (which it does, takes > out some of the rumble)... but are we saying here this is really to improve > low-end torque? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:44:57 -0400 From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] please tell me what you think of my car Looks good. The guy with the orange car even bought a Lamborghini decal to stick on his Fiero steering wheel. <g> Steve slow day at the office >From: "Chris Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] please tell me what you think of my car >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:37:47 -0400 > >http://members8.clubphoto.com/chris419046/437982/owner-cd59.phtml > >its the red one, not the orange one!! even though i wish it was. >Chris Scott > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:54:10 -0400 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Ofest gathering There are a couple places in the Town Square, although I can't remember the names. One is a bar with a disk jockey, at least last time I was there, and the other is a Mexican restaurant. The former is probably the better bet for a UUC get-together; as I recall it's downstairs to the right as you enter the Town Square from the main entrance from the street (but I could be wrong). Somebody else on the list will no doubt remember the name. How about Monday or Tuesday night, after that evening's reception is over? Even before that, hopefully you will come to NHIS and cheer on the racers in the Club race Monday and Tuesday. Kathy >Last year at Ofest we had an enjoyable uuc get together at a Greenville >brewpub. Does anyone have suggestions for the same at Waterville Valley? See >you there. Bob Thomas- '94 >530i,lowered- '74 2002 -'71VW conv. for sale -'94 Dodge ram 4x4 Lyle & Associates CPA www.lylecpa.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:04:40 -0400 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Ofest gathering Here's a rundown of the shops and restautants in the Town Square: http://www.waterville.com/summer/village.html I must be thinking of Legends 1291 Night Club - ? Kathy Lyle & Associates CPA www.lylecpa.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:48:27 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Thermometer query on 7/25/01 1:34 PM, "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am planning on using it for other things than just automobile applications. >> Like tropical fish, soil temp, room temp, cat temp. > The emissivity of the object being measured is important. Make sure you get > one that can be calibrated for different things. Very few can be calibrated for varying emissivity. Even fewer have specific settings for tropical fish or cats. Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:52:37 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats? Fold down rear seats were an option on all E34 sedans, world wide production (yes, that includes the US). They are, however, extremely rare in the US. I've seen 2 in my career. - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] E34 Sedans - fold down rear seats? > > When I was looking around for my Touring I ran across some ads proclaiming > their E34 sedans to have the fold down rear seats. I was aware of the ski > bag but have never seen the rear seats fold down. Are these people digging > into their grandmother's medicine cabinet? > > Geeeze > '88 325is race car for sale > http://patdonahue.com/forsale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:54:34 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <all> build dates 1995 was an especially weird year for build date vs model year. This was due to all 96 model year vehicles in the US having to comply to OBDII emissions standards. BMW kept many 95's alive as long as legally possible, in order to delay OBDII and it's associated headaches and costs, as much as possible. - --------------------------- Now offering BMW special tool rental and pay per incident tech help. - --------------------------- Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] <all> build dates > > "Brett Anderson" wrote: > > >To step in before those that desire to shoot down, in flames, anyone >that appears to know something about these cars, there have been >many exceptions. > > > >However, the general rule of thumb is 9/XX is the following year >model. > > No flames, just an additional exception. My '95 318ti had a 9/95 build date. It had the M42 engine, but had the oil filter design from the M44 engine. I had one parts person swear that it was not possible to have an M42 with the newer style oil filter. I had to drag him out to the car and show it to him. Said a lot about his job expertise... > > Kevin Rowley ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #4058 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com |==================================================== | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
