[uucdigest] Friday, July 27 2001 Volume 03 : Number 4065 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Speedvision World Challenge [Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [uuc] Re: lambos [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [uuc] Re: Lambos [Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Lambos [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Fault Code 1224 ["Allen Cavender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Airborne, flaming M3 GTR ["Evan Arnerich" <arnerichdsl@hotmail.] Re: [uuc] synth oil query [James Muskopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re: Airborne, flaming M3 GTR [[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart)] [uuc] Re: maintenance nightmares? (was Lambo) [John Bolhuis <bolhuijo@bol] [uuc] Hang up and drive! [Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] misc. photos ["James Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re:Airborne, flaming M3 GTR [Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] <FS> <E36M3> Hawk Blues ["Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Re: Miura [ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Speedvision World Challenge Bassett-hound writes: >Specifically the "TV Schedule" page: >http://www.speedvisionwc.com/2001/tvschedule.html >(Right, Carlos? :-)) You're the man now dog... oh sorry just watched Finding Forester. Speedvision GT: Is this irony? H*msterch*rger boy starts in a World Challenge race while we sit and watch him on T.V. Good thing he was last or I'd have to buy into his claims. Naaaaahhh! ;-P Carlos (no longer likes the WC, they'll let anybody race in it!)<g> 91 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:25:07 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: lambos >Clearly Shane will never be Bubba material. Maybe I'll drive down and under >the ruse of meeting Shane get to know his neighbor. :-) >Say, Shane, you aren't a friend of GT Lin are you? >Geeeze >'88 325is race car no longer for sale No, no, no. It's just that I'm never home. I travel all during the week, and usually see him out there working on the cars when I'm in the cab on the way to the airport on Monday mornings. I have already decided I need to buddy up with this guy to get a ride in his Ferrari 355 Berlinetta. But he works all night, then takes his ho's out for early breakfast and comes home about 6 am and washes/works on his cars. I'm a night owl and all, but I can't stay up till 4 am waiting for this guy to get off work so I can introduce myself. It was quite a site the day he moved in. Imagine this guy, recruiting his strippers to drive his fleet of exotic cars into the garage, then helping him move his stuff in. And now he's putting in a POOL. Can't wait to see the hotties out there sun-bathing!! I gotta get on an in-town project. Oh, and I don't know Gary, but I know he bought the weinerdog from Dave Nichols, so I do know who he is. And Pat, come on down to Charlotte whenever you want. Having met you about 4 years ago at a Korman open house, I'm certain that you and this guy would get along like two frogs in a pond. Shane Kleinpeter <-- Need da Geeze to give me Bubba lessons '96 M3 '94 325i <-- soon to be track car ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:37:01 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Lambos Ben understood completely.. >KKiely wrote: > > > Apparently the early Miura's were frought with problems- early sheet > metal was > > paper thin, a lot of body parts were hand crafted so no two were alike, the > > motor and tranny shared oil sumps and one or the other would suffer > because of > > it, the tranny could not be shifted quickly etc. > >and this should keep any car entusiast with blood in his or her veins from >lusting >after one for exactly what reason ?? > >Ben EXACTLY. Was going to post about the same reply last night, but it was getting late and I was tired. My reply was going to be one word "So?" Practicality has NOTHING to do with lusting after a car.. usually about the opposite. If we were going after practicality, we'd be on the Honda Accord mailing list. You have to imagine the impact coming upon a Miura would have with no warning on a 23 year old male.. AFAIK the Miura was introduced at the NYC show, and hadn't been in any US magazines (and there was no net back in 1971..) The booth wasn't a big one, and it was up on the 2nd floor of the coliseum - it was turn the corner and THERE _IT_ WAS. Floored me. I was - really - agape. Red, beautiful and completely unattainable. And to this day, unforgettable. Think of discovering Elle McPherson, naked, waiting and unattainable - - the same primal lust applied. KKeily - you ARE a car guy right?? I'm sure you just slipped into that practical mode by accident. I think we have a 12 step program somewhere for that :-) Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:09:04 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Lambos on 7/26/01 8:48 PM, "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently the early Miura's were fraught with problems- early sheet metal was > paper thin, a lot of body parts were hand crafted so no two were alike, the > motor and tranny shared oil sumps and one or the other would suffer because of > it, the tranny could not be shifted quickly etc. That may very well be so, but don't forget that Ferraris of that era were equally as unreliable, and at least as artisanale in construction. It's hard to overestimate the importance of the Miura when it appeared. This is the car that broke the mould of high performance cars, and invented the modern supercar. 12 cylinder/4 cam transverse mounted engine mounted amidships, gorgeous styling, shattering performance by the standards of the day. on 7/26/01 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] added: > I hit a Lambo once with my rental car. Does that count for anything? It > pushed the Lambo into a Ferrari too. So Michel, are you still on the rental company's blacklist? <g> Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:24:05 -0400 From: "Allen Cavender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Fault Code 1224 Group, On my daily commute I noticed my check engine light flicker on and off when coming off the throttle. Additionally my idle is somewhat erratic. A check of the fault code reveals 1224 as the culprit. Can some please provide some insight as to what and where this might be? Car is a 95 M3. Any help would be greatly appreciated. allen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:40:21 +0000 From: "Evan Arnerich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Airborne, flaming M3 GTR John Bolhuis >>http://www.fastdetails.com/alms/pics/spBMW43Airw8.jpg >too bad it looks exactly like a pimped up VW beetle from that >angle... too bad the Duke brothers designed the fender flares... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: James Muskopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] synth oil query > From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: synth oil query > > Any reason why BMW would specify glue for these engines??? 10W60 isn't that thick. Especially if it's synthetic. Glue would be SAE30W at freezing. > From: "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: synth oil query > > I just thought viscosity was viscosity no matter what brand > or type. I've always gone from 5w-30 to 10w-40 once my engines > have gotten over 100K. I would never think of running 10w-60 > though. Do they even recommend that for cold weather? Has anyone > checked the PSI ratings on these different viscosities? Viscosity ratings do not directly correlate with "thickess". Mobil 1 15W50 is thinner than dino 10W30. I am not an oil engineer, but I do remember some basics. The first number implies a base. So a 10WXX is the same as a straight SAE10W oil. 20Wxx is like SAE20W. So in the case of 10W60, you're not starting out any thicker. The additive package modifies its viscosity at higher temps and pressures. That's what the second numbers tell. So a 10W30 oil has fewer modifiers than a 10W40 oil. I read on an Alfa webpage (wish I could find it again!) that you should not use dino 10W40, because it requires a lot of additives vs a 10W30. Additives can turn to varnish, and are some of the first moleucles to evaporate. Race engines should use the thickest oil possible to get the greatest life out of them. High-lift cams with stiff springs put a lot of load on the oil film. With thinner oils you can get cam lobe/lifter wear. You get more HP, but only a few more. Thin oil is for fuel economy. American engine builders use the thickest oils they can buy (usually Kendall SAE30W) on their pushrod V-8 engines to compensate for stiff springs and heavey valvetrains (lifters, pushrods, rockers, big valves). Gear oils are tested under different conditions. That's why Red Line MTL (70W80) satisfies motor oil requirements of a 5W30 or 10W30 motor oil. I just saw screw it and use Mobil 15W50 in all my BMW engines (M30, S14, and S38). If I could afford a new M3 or M5, then I'd use the factory-specified Castrol 10W60. JamesM [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart) Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Airborne, flaming M3 GTR Sorry, but, uh.. who are the Duke brothers? Any relation to Wright bros? Duke of York? Serious answer welcome! JOhn (wide flared name) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 08:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: maintenance nightmares? (was Lambo) On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Neil Deshpande wrote: > Ferraris also require major maintenance, but then > Bimmers appear to be maintenance nightmares in > comparison to Hondas and their ilk. Just depends on There's an exception to every rule... Power antenna unit for E30 325: $135 from dealer. For same year Honda Accord: $272. ouch! (that Honda's got the $25 Pep Boys clamp-in special now.) - -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:13:20 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Hang up and drive! Passed on from a BMW bike list.. it confirms what most beemer riders have thought all along.. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/07/010727094311.htm PLEASE - Hang up and Drive (or pull-over-to-call..) Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:32:12 -0400 From: "James Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] misc. photos It is interesting to see the bodywork differences between the #42 car and the other cars. Especially around the fenders and front spoiler. The #42 is the first car produced, so I'm guessing the changes are for the better. Jim Moran '88 M6 http://www.americanlemans.com/content/photos/2001/By1024/20010519P_0014. jpg http://www.americanlemans.com/content/photos/2001/By1024/20010317P_0015. jpg http://www.americanlemans.com/content/photos/2001/By1024/20010317P_0016. jpg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 08:36:46 -0700 From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re:Airborne, flaming M3 GTR Woody asks...Can anyone tell me where at Sears Point a car would get airborne like that? Sure Woddy, there is a 'nice' hump on the approach to turn #6, the carousel. My car doesn't get air there, thank you very much, but my head bumps the roof every time over that hump. Steve Albrecht ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:54:22 -0400 From: "Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> <E36M3> Hawk Blues Got 2 sets of FRONT ONLY Hawk Blues for E36 M3. New in boxes, never used/installed. Price is $110/set plus shipping from the Detroit area. Email with questions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Jack Money ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:12:41 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Miura Don Eilenberger wrote: > AFAIK the Miura was introduced at the NYC show, and hadn't been in any US > magazines (and there was no net back in 1971..) The booth wasn't a big one, and > it was up on the 2nd floor of the coliseum - > it was turn the corner and THERE _IT_ WAS. Floored me. I was - really - agape. > > Red, beautiful and completely unattainable. And to this day, unforgettable. Miura facts : P400 introduced in March of '66 at the Geneva Auto Show - 475 produced thru '69 P400 S introduced in March of '69, also at Geneva - 140 produced thru '71 P400 SV introduced March of '72 at Geneva - 150 produced thru '72 information from a very extensive page at : http://members.nbci.com/the_cyborg/page1.htm I suspect that the car Don saw at the auto show was an SV. there are some Miuras with very interesting histories IIRC, including a couple owned by the Shah of Iran. Ben still thinks this kidney sale thing will work out one day.... ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #4065 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. 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