[uucdigest]           Friday, July 27 2001           Volume 03 : Number 4066



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

  Re: [uuc] Hang up and drive!           ["Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Carfax request                    [Bryan Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  Re: [uuc] Speedvision World Challenge     [John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Re: Duke brothers..was flaming M3 GTR  ["DAVID NGUYEN" <ag3nt003@hot]
  [uuc] Re: lambos                ["Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] Cup holder                          ["Christian Els" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #4065 - Fault Code 1224  ["M Hudson" <mlhudson@mi]
  [uuc] Re: Hang up and drive!            [Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] E36 M3 sunroof problem  ["Robert S. Hatrak II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] Lambo Miuras                                      [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  [uuc] Ferrari maintenance costs       [Adam Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  [uuc] re: Lambos as bumpercars                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:32:44 -0400
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Hang up and drive!

Ah.  That also answers that eternal question: why do you turn down the
volume on the radio when you're looking for an address?

Geeeze
'95 525iT - 4GTFUL
'91 Gold Wing - GEEEZE



From: "Don Eilenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Passed on from a BMW bike list.. it confirms what most beemer
> riders have thought all along..
>
>          http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/07/010727094311.htm
>
> PLEASE - Hang up and Drive (or pull-over-to-call..)
>
>
> Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bryan Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Carfax request

Interested in this car and was wondering if anyone with carfax access
could help me out.

VIN#: WBSCD9324WEE09600


Thanks

Bryan

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:54:09 -0700
From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Speedvision World Challenge

> Yikes!  I didn't notice that at first.  There is some consolation in the
> fact that his fastest lap was about 7.5 seconds slower than most of the
> field.  I guess he sucks wind ;-)

Please note that said individual was driving basically a prepped *street 
car*, had a plate on it and might even be street-registered, not in any way 
comparable to the vehicles running even a few places in front of him. 
Appears he's just working on getting seat time in the class, and he did 
carefully stay out of the way of the faster hardware...

...and drove a much better line, from what I could see, than a couple of 
the C5 Vettes, one in particular couldn't find an apex with both hands and 
a flashlight.

John.

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:55:04 -0700
From: "DAVID NGUYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Duke brothers..was flaming M3 GTR

>
>Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:09:36 -0400 (EDT)
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hart)
>Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Airborne, flaming M3 GTR
>
>Sorry, but, uh..
>                         who are the Duke brothers?  Any relation to
>Wright bros?  Duke of York?
>Serious answer welcome!
>JOhn (wide flared name)
>
... "i'll take poor assumptions for $800 alex!" ~sorry i just saw Finding 
Forrester too. i grew up on Dukes of Hazzard so i take it he's mentioning Bo 
and Luke Duke. don't think the general lee ever had fender flares but i 
could be wrong. it's been a long time! just remember i had a crush on Daisy 
Duke! ( i was only 8 years old) don't be dodging cops like the Duke boys 
there boy and girls! it gets your toys impounded! trust me i know! hahah and 
don't ask how i know!! anyone have any "duke boys" car chase sories but in a 
bimmer that can keep me entertained? this lambo thread starting to bore me. 
sorry.

~david '94 325is (18 more days 'til she flies again)

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:58:11 -0400
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: lambos

Pat lays in with
>>Clearly Shane will never be Bubba material.  
>>Maybe I'll drive down and under the ruse of meeting Shane
>>get to know his neighbor.  :-)

Shane counters with
>...And now he's putting in a POOL.  Can't wait
>to see the hotties out there sun-bathing!!  I gotta get
>on an in-town project.


Yeah right.  Wishful thinking.  I have heard that once you complete your
current +1 year long Cleveland job, your organization has you heading off to
some place like Hibbing, Minnesota or Mussel Shoals, Alabama for your next
job. ;-0

Regards,

Rich - Only lambos I see are on the Cleveland near West side near North
Coast Exotics...coming from or going to being worked on.  Every time I talk
to the owner of NCE, he always tells me he is swamped (works on Jagyouar,
the raging bull and the prancing horse marques only).  Looks like he has the
market cornered on high maintenance rolling works-of-art.  Pretty good
business plan when you think about it.  Roughly the opposite of the infamous
Maytag repair man's business plan.

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:17:45 -0500
From: "Christian Els" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Cup holder

>From time to time some of you post looking for these. I found this and
thought I would share.

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=593590751
>

Would work very well in a low-placing GT LMS car, or maybe yours.


Christian

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:18:30 -0700
From: "M Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #4065 - Fault Code 1224

http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/fault.html

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:23:35 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Hang up and drive!

on 7/27/01 11:15 AM, Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Passed on from a BMW bike list.. it confirms what most beemer
> riders have thought all along..
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/07/010727094311.htm
> PLEASE - Hang up and Drive (or pull-over-to-call..)

I see nothing in this report to suggest that talking on a cell phone is any
more, or less, distracting than holding a conversation with a passenger in
the car. It says:

"...that attending to a conversation significantly distracts the brain from
processing complex visual information...The researchers found that listening
to someone speak consumes some of the resources that would otherwise be
allocated to a complex visual information-processing task...Both
conversation and driving skills take a hit. The research team found that
doing a demanding visual task, such as driving, also distracts the brain
from language processing."

One might even wonder whether cell phones, at least in hands-free mode,
aren't less distracting than talking to a companion in the car. Ask yourself
how many times you've seen a driver turn away from the road and toward a
passenger to make a conversational point. Sometimes that passenger is in the
back seat.

Now initiating a cell phone call, or answering one, may be another matter,
since the user typically has to look at the phone for that. The study, which
wasn't actually about cell phone usage as such, didn't address that issue.

Because I find it distracting I've never much liked to talk while driving.
My wife has grown used to long silences during driving trips, and doesn't
take it personally. Of course she also says she doesn't like to watch while
I'm driving...<g>

Neil
96 M3

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:34:57 -0700
From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E36 M3 sunroof problem

The sunroof on my E36 M3 (9/95 build) has developed a problem that I'm
hoping someone will be able to help me with.  The black fabric coved
panel/liner no longer is attached to the metal sliding roof panel.  At
times, it will not move forward when the sunroof is closed.  If I then push
it forward by hand and then tilt the roof up and then back down, the fabric
liner will move forward and backward with the metal roof correctly.  All is
fine until the roof is tilted again, and then the fabric panel disconnects
itself again.

I know this is an akward explanation of my situation.  I hope someone has
had some sort of similar experience that they can share.

Thanks in advance!

Rob

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:01:58 GMT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Lambo Miuras

When I was in my "formative" years of 13-16 and got into cars, 1968-71 or so, 
there was a Lambo Miura in my neighborhood.  And no, I don't live in Bev Hills, 
it was suburban Rochester, NY.  The owner would fire it up, typically on Sunday 
mornings and we would hear it "ripping" as he blipped it to keep it running as 
he warmed it up.  I can still hear that rrrrrip.....rrrrrip.....rrrrrip.  Then 
he would pull out and go down our quiet street in 1st gear at what must have 
been 3-4K rpm, not all that fast, but MAN what a nice sound.  

He and his is family were kind of a "loner" family, so no one in the 
neighborhood really knew them, but one day my friend and I got up the courage 
to go knock on his door cold, and ask if we could see the car.  He was really 
nice and we got to ogle that thing for a good hour, sit in it, etc. etc.  It 
cost $20K when he bought it new, totally unattainable then it seemed.  Sorry, 
but EFI will never replace a brace of Webers when the hood opens...  

I've lusted after one ever since.

Chris Whitney
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Ferrari maintenance costs

I can share a few things I've heard from my friend,
who has an '87 Testarrossa, and an '86 328.

The 328 had to have the 30K service (because of its
age, not mileage) and the engine has to be pulled to
do it.  Of course at a certified Ferrari shop here in
Chicago.  Cost for the 30,000 mile service you might
ask?  chaaa-ching  $6000

When he got the TR, he bought it from the original
owner and there were some ugly trim panels on the
inside of the doors, like a trim piece.  Don't know
why the owner had put them on, maybe something to do
with a speaker install, but my friend thought they
were ugly and wanted to put the originals back on.  I
don't know if they have leather from some endangered
animal or something, but they were $600 a PIECE.  He
passed and learned to live with the carpet covered
ones.

Other stories I've heard include little things like
$700 fuel pressure regulators, $4000 Tubi (spelling?)
exhausts, etc.

Adam Wilson
'81 528i


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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:20:30 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] re: Lambos as bumpercars

In a message dated 7/27/01 9:47:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ben keyes writes:

<< wants to hear the rest of Michel's Italian rental bumper car story >>

It was in London, 1983. I had a little Volvo 360 (?) hatchback (Daf) 
rentaracer. Holiday Inn, Marble Arch, London.  That was a hang out for really 
obnoxious Arabs back then. The type which really have given Kuwait a bad 
reputation overseas. I was turning left into the drive way (U shaped). A 
Ferrari was parked at the outside apex of the driveway, illegally. As I was 
making the turn a Countach passed me on the right and deflected off my right 
front wing into the Ferrari.  Dunno Ferrari models, it was the one with the 
cut outs on the side and horizontal lines. The pilot of the Ferrari and 
Countach knew each other, they were both apparently going to the disco at the 
Holiday Inn (to pick up hookers). Occupants of both cars emptied yelling at 
me and each other. I backed up and asked the doorman to call the constables 
which he did. I did not want to get engaged with the Arabs, so I faked being 
unable to speak English and jabbered on in French. One of them had studied 
French and it was awful, nearly incoherent. So they opted to wait for the 
cops.

Cops arrived, a total of 7 in 3 cars. One of the Arabs was not a stranger to 
one of the cops. They interrogated them for nearly an hour. Suddenly a paddy 
wagon arrived and they all were hauled off. I marveled that moving violations 
would be taken that seriously. Well, turns out that the pilot of the Lambo, a 
Jordanian was in Britain illegally after being served with an expulsion order 
six months earlier. Another one's student visa had expired six months earlier 
and was no longer a student. Then the other two were arrested for filing a 
false police report concerning the accident.  There were inconsistencies in 
their stories which were not borne out by the physical evidence at the scene. 
Upon colliding I stopped and turned off the car, the angle of my wheels was 
frozen in time. The cops judged that there was no way I was passing the 
Countach as alleged. There was also the issue of the Ferrari parked illegally 
with a cold engine too. It had not "just arrived" as the owner claimed. The 
doorman also confirmed it had been there for hours. 

I actually had very little conversation with the cops. What totally amazed me 
most was they said that I should not file an accident report with either them 
or the rental company. They came by in a few days and had me sign their 
report and told me to provide a copy to the rental company. That satisfied 
the rental company too, amazingly enough. I guess a police report is a really 
compelling document in Britain. That was a high point in my European vacation 
that year, first time I had been there since 1964.  Playing with Falcons at 
the Raptor conservancy was the other high point.
Michel

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