[uucdigest]         Monday, January 13 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6014



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] Best aluminum trailer?
       Re:[uuc] radar detector recommendations
       [uuc] Re:  radar detector recommendations
       Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations
       [uuc] Insurance, again
       [uuc] Re: X Activity, Was: Honda Element
       Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations
       RE: [uuc] radar detector recommendations

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:28:36 -0800 (PST)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Best aluminum trailer?

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Group,
I'm considering buying an open car trailer, and I'm wondering if anyone has any 
insights as to what the better brands are.  Featherlite appears to have a nice one, 
but contrary to their name, it is about 400 lbs heavier than a comparable Aluminum 
Trailer Company unit.  Our tow vehicle is limited to about 5,200 lbs, so I want to 
keep the trailer weight fairly low (hence no enclosed trailer - @#*%).  What other 
quality mfr's are there?
I'd greatly appreciate any experiences you could share.
Neil
1994 325is - too many aluminum bushings to drive 450 miles to Watkins Glen



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<P>Group,
<P>I'm considering buying an open car trailer, and I'm wondering if anyone has any 
insights as to what the better brands are.&nbsp; Featherlite appears to have a nice 
one, but contrary to their name, it is about 400 lbs heavier than a comparable 
Aluminum Trailer Company unit.&nbsp; Our tow vehicle is limited to about 5,200 lbs, so 
I want to keep the trailer weight fairly low (hence no enclosed trailer - @#*%).&nbsp; 
What other quality mfr's are there?
<P>I'd greatly appreciate any experiences you could share.
<P>Neil
<P>1994 325is - too many aluminum bushings to drive 450 miles to Watkins 
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:55:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:[uuc] radar detector recommendations

My E34 came with a POS K40 remote installed (F and R
sensors), and I have to say it has saved me more than
once, mostly on back roads. However there have been
plenty of times when it didn't give any useful warning
and the only reason for my clean driving record is
1)pure luck and/or 2)using common sense (eg: don't
lead the pack, drive a boring sedan, etc). I guess I
think a less-than-V1 is better than nothing, but not
if you count on the detector to save you and don't use
your head.
Jon

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:54:05 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re:  radar detector recommendations

Grant, I've owned 3 radar detectors (Cincinnati Microwave Escort and
Passport and an Escort (company changed name, probably when Mike Valentine
left?) Solo 5).  With the exception of a one-time failure of the Passport,
all three have saved my sorry ass from numerous tickets.  For anyone who
keeps their speed within 20 MPH of the speed limit, I feel that the
detectors made by Escort are adequate protection.  For anyone who spends
much time north of 20 MPH over the limit, I would only consider a Valentine
V1 - it is truely the best.

I don't trust any other brand of detector.

BTW, laser is a whole different animal.  With radar, you can usually pick
up some stray microwaves when the officer targets cars in front of you, or
just because they might drive around with the radar permanently on (as
opposed to the "instant on" mode).  But lasers only come in instant on mode
(point and shoot), and the beam is very narrow.  So while it is perhaps
possible to pick up stray laser when they target someone else, usually by
the time you get a warning, you're already toast.

BTW, if you relocate to my neighborhood, a detector will come in handy.
There are several roads in the area with low speed limits where your
natural tendancy will be to drive faster, and where the local cops spend
lots of time with radar because there is not a lot of crime to prevent or
investigate.

HTH,
Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:01:47 -0500
>From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] radar detector recommendations
>
>Group,
>
>I'm preparing to move from Indiana to northern California in the next
>month or so.  As such, I'm looking for a good radar detector to *ahem*
>speed up the cross-country trip.  Unfortunately, I don't feel
>comfortable dropping $400 on a Valentine 1, even though I am fully
>convinced of its superiority.  Is there a detector at $200 or less that
>is the "next best thing"?  It must have X, Ka, laser, and front/rear
>capabilities.  Once I get settled (physically and financially), I'll
>probably sell it on eBay and go for the V1.
>
>OTOH, perhaps I could borrow a lonely V1 (for a modest fee) for a few
>weeks?
>
>OBMWC - I won't be able to bring my E30 with me to California.  It will
>be handed over to my 15yo brother as his first car.  It's one month
>younger than he is!  I will miss it.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>Grant
>87 325 - 190k
>02 WRX wagon - 18k

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:01:35 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations

Grant,

I agree with the others that have replied - the V1 is the one to get. It is
like a religion, once you get one you will go out at start witnessing to
the un-converted :-)

I think the Passport 8500 is close (maybe a little better on some bands) in
sensitivity and is smaller and cheaper. It also includes the remote display
and has an audio out jack. Remote display and audio out are extra cost options
on the V1. But for me it is all about the arrows - being able to know
instantly the direction of the threat, which direction is most "serious"
threat, and the count. After using the V1 RADAR locator, all other detectors
just beep.

I have 2 - one in my 330i and the other in the convertible. I use a
battery operated Bel on my motorcycles and it is just not the same. Neither
in range, quality of audio warnings, and no arrows.

I would get a V1 or maybe an 8500. Getting something "almost as good" will
just get you a ticket, more than likely. Without a detector you would probably
drive slower and look out for cops more. With a detector you may drive faster
and not look as good. If you don't have first rate stuff, you may get caught.
Heck, even with a V1 you can still get caught. They have raised ticket
prices around here to a level that pays for a big chunk of a V1 with just
1 ticket.

I recently purchased new ones to upgrade mine to the latest level. I have
already sold one of the "old" ones and I have one more to sell.

The "old" one I have is slightly larger (called the 1.7 version), but still
has all the same features including front and rear laser detection. I took
the new detector and windshield mount out of the box and put the old V1 and
mount in the box. So the "old" one comes with all new accessories (visor clip,
cig adapter, cables, manual, hard-wired power connecter, 4 spare suction cups)
new and un-used in the box. I am asking $300 including shipping in the ConUS.
I have pictures and was working on my ad for eBay, but selling w/o the fees
means I can sell it for less. Let me know if you are interested.

Dennis
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd
BMWCCA

At 12:01 AM 01/13/2003 -0500, Grant Low wrote:
>Group,
>
>I'm preparing to move from Indiana to northern California in the next
>month or so.  As such, I'm looking for a good radar detector to *ahem*
>speed up the cross-country trip.  Unfortunately, I don't feel
>comfortable dropping $400 on a Valentine 1, even though I am fully
>convinced of its superiority.  Is there a detector at $200 or less that
>is the "next best thing"?  It must have X, Ka, laser, and front/rear
>capabilities.  Once I get settled (physically and financially), I'll
>probably sell it on eBay and go for the V1.
>
>OTOH, perhaps I could borrow a lonely V1 (for a modest fee) for a few
>weeks?
>
>OBMWC - I won't be able to bring my E30 with me to California.  It will
>be handed over to my 15yo brother as his first car.  It's one month
>younger than he is!  I will miss it.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>Grant
>87 325 - 190k
>02 WRX wagon - 18k

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:29:48 -0500
From: "carl sewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Insurance, again

All the recent comments re insurance prompted me to request a specimen
policy from my carrier, Travelers, since the annual billing/statement does
not include the �fine print.�

Travelers (in Virginia) says they will provide neither liability, collision,
nor comprehensive coverage for:
        Any vehicle located inside a facility designed for racing for the purpose
of:
a.      Competing in; or
b.      Practicing or preparing for;
Any prearranged or organized racing or speed contest.

Obviously many driving school participants have no intention of ever racing,
and I wonder how the group sees �prearranged or organized�� If you never
race, are you covered? If you ever race, have you no coverage for driving
schools? Any comments welcomed.

Carl Sewell
Charlottesville VA
e36 M3/4
CCA 151298

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:55:42 -0800 (PST)
From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: X Activity, Was: Honda Element

WRT the Element, Matt wrote:

> Since there isn't a B-pillar, this procedure
> probably includes multiple
> bucklings and unbucklings of the front seat belts to
> get everyone situated.
> That doesn't fit my definition of user friendly.

You are correct, sir.  Front passenger belts are
anchored in the rear doors.

Note that the BMW X Activity car (read: X3) doesn't
have B or C pillers.  The prototype/concept at the
auto show has one looong open window.


=====
David Kroth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:49:57 -0600
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations

The original question was predicated on "I don't want to spend the $$$ 
for the V1, so..."; the zealots answered "buy the V1". Only one answer - 
it does sound like a religion. ;)

Just as a hypothetical: If someone offered something that significantly 
improved on the V1's performance (for a price of course) would you buy 
it? How much would you be willing to spend for radar detection? How big 
a device would you tolerate?  Everyone claims the V1 is the best - if 
something was "better" would you buy it, or has the V1 reached the "good 
enough" level for most uuc'ers? Reply offline if desired. --SC (full 
disclosure: business card says "RF engineer")

Dennis Wynne wrote:

> I agree with the others that have replied - the V1 is the one to get. 
> It is
> like a religion, once you get one you will go out at start witnessing to
> the un-converted :-)

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:36:19 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] radar detector recommendations

It would have to be significantly better than the current V1.  i.e. - maybe
incorporate a digital link to the next unit in the surrounding area to open
up its detection range.  i.e. if my SC-1 were in communication range of
another SC-1 it would interface with that SC-1 and surrounding SC-1s, ping
the GPS system, interface with my onboard moving map display and pinpoint
the radiating unit.  If I were using cruise control it would kick me out of
cruise and reset my speed to the limit.

For a further fee I could buy the SC-1mark2 would could launch a missile
carrying an EMP device that would fry only the transmitting radar unit.

And as long as it was the same size as the current one and didn't require me
to put a bigger alternator on the car I'd pay you 2x the current price ;-)

btw my current commuter vehicle is a pick-em up truck so the missile
launcher could be in the bed.

Marco
I get co-credits on the patent

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Subject: Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations


The original question was predicated on "I don't want to spend the $$$
for the V1, so..."; the zealots answered "buy the V1". Only one answer -
it does sound like a religion. ;)

Just as a hypothetical: If someone offered something that significantly
improved on the V1's performance (for a price of course) would you buy
it? How much would you be willing to spend for radar detection? How big
a device would you tolerate?  Everyone claims the V1 is the best - if
something was "better" would you buy it, or has the V1 reached the "good
enough" level for most uuc'ers? Reply offline if desired. --SC (full
disclosure: business card says "RF engineer")

Dennis Wynne wrote:

> I agree with the others that have replied - the V1 is the one to get.
> It is
> like a religion, once you get one you will go out at start witnessing to
> the un-converted :-)

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