[uucdigest] Wednesday, January 15 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6023
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Re: [uuc] Floor jack [uuc] Re: [Cincinnati Microwave WAS radar detector recommendations] [uuc] Re: [Insurance -- AGAIN] [uuc] Re: So Cal Shops [uuc] E21 stuff for sale RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations RE: [uuc] BMW CCA Driving Events (was Insurance, again) [uuc] RE: BMW CCA Driving Events (was Insurance, again) RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:05:11 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Input shaft seal?? I've never used the factory tool, only a deep socket of, IIRC, 15mm 6 point variety. If your replacement seal leaks, it's because of one, or more, of three things. 1. You nicked it on installation, probably by not throughly cleaning and lubing the end of the shaft. 2. You gouged the housing when you removed the original. Always use a thin film of RTV on the outside of a seal before installing it, to make sure you cover such problems. 3. You didn't get the seal straight. If it goes in on an angle, it will leak. Have fun. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Any ancient bavarian secrets regarding the installation of the > transmission Input Shaft Seal in an E36 M3 S50US 5 Speed ? I installed > the current one without the BMW installation tool called out in Bentley > and it leaks. > I am beginning removal of everything again today and really don't want to > go in again for some time after this, but is it _really_ necessary to > shell out the $$ for the factory tool in order to do this job correctly? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:53:24 -0800 From: "Joe Elwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Floor jack I, and alot of racer/track school types out my way, have bought the US General aluminum jack (3000lb capacity, minimum saddle height 3.54", weight only 37 pounds). It works great, and costs $199, available from www.harborfreight.com. BTW, harborfreight is the most "eclectic" tool catalog I've ever seen. It's a trip. For example, they have a chain saw and an electric razor on the same page. Obviously catering to that rugged individualist who wants choices in his personal grooming! Joe - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burtsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: [uuc] Floor jack > With the draught in Kansas City this winter I have been able to delay > putting on my snow tires until now. However, it would have been an easier > switch with a floor jack. > > Can anyone suggest a decent, low profile, hydraulic floor jack that can get > under my '98 M3? I'd like to spend under $200 if that's possible. > > I tried something last time that made the change easier this time. I put a > little anti-seize where the wheel contacts the hub so the old wheel came off > without the usual struggle. > > Burt > '98 M3 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:57:44 -0500 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [Cincinnati Microwave WAS radar detector recommendations] Scott Miller wrote: > Grant, I've owned 3 radar detectors (Cincinnati Microwave Escort and > Passport and an Escort (company changed name, probably when Mike Valentine > left Not quite, if I remember correctly. Mike left to start Valentine for reasons unknown to me. At a later date, Cincinnati Microwave was rescued from bankruptcy by another company or a new set of owners (can't remeber which). That is when the new company name, "Escort," came about. Stan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:24:16 -0500 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [Insurance -- AGAIN] This insurance issue has been covered quite well previously. Our Texas insurance guy (OK, I'll give you his first name -- Mark) may be staying out of it for that reason. The policy referenced (which does VERY closely mimic many other policies) is very carefully worded. And it very explicitly does NOT cover a BMW CCA Drivers' School (or similar driving school). The policy specifically mentions: Any vehicle located inside a facility designed for racing for the purpose of: a. Competing in; or b. Practicing or preparing for; Any prearranged or organized racing or speed contest. Technically and legally, you MUST be PRACTICING FOR, PREPARING FOR, OR COMPETING IN an organized racing or speed contest for coverage to be denied. Driving schools are neither races nor speed contests. Nor are they preparation or practice for a race or speed contest. Does that mean an insurance company won't try to refuse you? Absolutely not. It all depends on the company and the particular people involved. BTW, you will NOT get an accurate answer by talking to your insurance agent. If you REALLY want an answer, you must talk to the claims department, as they are the ones who decide how to process a claim. You might think the underwriting department was the one to talk to, but no. You *might* get a future claim guarantee through an agent or the underwriting department (get it in writing!), but if you are just asking questions and counting on the answers, you need to talk to the claims department. Mark, please correct me if I have made a mistake here. Massachusetts has a somewhat different policy which is supposed to be worded so as to exclude driving schools. My recollection is that it is NOT worded so as to stand up to a proper legal challenge, but that is just my opinion. Again, if I recall correctly, the Massachusetts wording DOES have a problem wherein the wording COULD be used to exclude coverage for a fender bender in the spectator parking lot at a racetrack -- clearly not what was intended. This could further support my opinion that the wording in the Massachusetts policy should not be enforceable. BUT hey, I'm not a lawyer, I just have some legal knowledge. I'm not a lawyer because I've seen garbage like this upheld in court and I'm sick of the legal system. It would have been SO EASY to write a Massachusetts policy that did exclude driving schools that it boggles my mind that they settled on what they did. FYI, I made a driving school claim quite a number of years ago and had absolutely no problem receiving coverage from AMICA, who I highly recommend for multiple reasons. Wording very similar to that being discussed was in my policy. Stan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:29:23 -0800 (PST) From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: So Cal Shops Try http://www.apexengineering.com/ I used to autox with a guy that had his motor bulit there. They do lots of work with coil-overs and autox/race mods for BMW's. Kyle Sanchez __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:30:18 -0800 From: "Andrei_Fenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E21 stuff for sale It is time to get serious about cleaning out spare parts. I have as follows: *1983 320i complete running motor, wiring & ecu *1980 320iA parts car *1979 323i block & crank I must sell all of the above. Please email me privately for specific info. I am located in northern Ca. Andrei Fenner 1983 320i 2.7 1991 M5 Andrei Fenner GGC BMW CCA #140404 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:51:39 +0100 From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations > Clarence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > DON'T speed in construction zones in Wisconsin: the fine doubles. > > > > California, too. Try speed in norway and do a few months of jailtime and 1000$++ fines :) Lucky Imperialist you are ! - -- Ulf Speedking ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:16:58 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] BMW CCA Driving Events (was Insurance, again) I think this is a very important point. When you say race track, probably a lot of people in this country picture the NASCAR they've seen on TV. This goes for claims adjusters too, Mark excluded.... Lee > > After having read my prior message, a very knowledgeable and esteemed > colleague of mine commented that there are probably some > insurance companies > out there that would still deny a claim -- even under the > quoted policy > language -- merely because the occurrence took place at speed > at a track > facility. That may be so, even though the occurrence happened at a > legitimate "drivers school" that had nothing to do with "racing." My > friend's comments are valid. Which is another way of saying > that life isn't > always fair and justice doesn't always prevail, particularly > when any two > people can almost always disagree about what is "fair" and > "just" in the > first place. It's easy to see how a racetrack-related > insurance claim under > a personal auto policy might automatically raise a "red flag" > with a claims > adjuster who has utterly no knowledge of club events. It's just not > something they see every day. It's so very unusual from their > perspective, > the initial reaction might be, naturally, to question coverage. > Accordingly, even though I think that my personal auto > insurer "should" > cover me when I participate in drivers ed, I must force > myself to drive with > the mindset that my insurer may nevertheless deny coverage if > I get in a > jam. So, I try to stay alert, drive carefully and smoothly, > keep my distance > from other vehicles, and avoid getting into jams whenever > possible. The > bottom line is that nobody is ever "guaranteed" to have > personal insurance > coverage, not even at a BMW CCA authorized school. There are simply no > guarantees in life, only ways to maximize (or minimize) > probable outcomes. > BMW CCA, Inc. strives to respect (and protect) what we > believe is a stark > difference between "drivers education" and "club racing" > programs. Whether > your personal insurer will similarly appreciate and respect that > distinction, and whether your insurer will actually cover you > in connection > with a DE incident, are matters solely between each of you > and your personal > insurers. > > Al Buchanan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:31:47 -0600 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: BMW CCA Driving Events (was Insurance, again) Kurt Zimmerman wrote: >I was at an Audi school last weekend. There was an emergency room Dr >there who is collecting statistics on accidents in California and the >effect a driver's safety seminar has on that number. His numbers have >all sorts of bias in them, however they were still interesting. He said >that 50% of people in the 18-24 age group will get in an accident. He >then looked at over 500 drivers in that age group who had attended a >driver's safety seminar. Less than 5% of those who had attended a >safety seminar had been involved in an accident. He's been trying to >present his findings to the insurance companies, but they're not listening. > And why should they. The insurance industry has no motivation to encourage people to become better drivers. Wow, imagine a reduction in accidents which should translate into lower premiums which could translate into less revenue. Yes, I'm very sarcastic re: insurance companies. I've not read my policy and until recently ran w/only liability on our cars. When I did get collision, the agent flatly told me it wouldn't cover any incidents on the track (now, admittedly, this particular person seems to have the intelligence of a slug). Besides, as is often mentioned by lawyers, whose client wants to be the test case? Insurance companies are a gorilla when it comes to this type of litigation. IMO, the number of people who attend driver schools, regardless of what club or group, is too small to get the nation's attention. We're too busy w/cupholders and there are way too many parents that can't wait to get their 16yo kids behind the wheel so they can drive their friends and other family members. To hell w/education; just open up the Cracker Jack box and pull out that license. And the government is happy as long as the legislatures need do nothing more than sit on their butts and pass mediocre laws (though I admit it the new laws in some states, Wisconsin included, that limit new driver privileges are positive). OTOH, I'm glad Kurt shared this info w/us. It is indeed good news. I only fear that this info, like the studies showing speed alone isn't the cause of accidents, will be covered in dust. It's just too easy to blame everything on speed and ignore people who insist on eating, drinking, reading, conducting telephone business, shaving, etc. while driving. Clarence West Bend, WI ranting somewhat this morning. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:13:49 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations I think this applies in most states I've driven in recently......For a while Georgia tried enforcing a law that said speeding any amount in construction zones would result in an automatic 30-day in jail sentence.....didn't last long, the police, courts, jails couldn't handle the load.... Lee > DON'T speed in construction zones in Wisconsin: the fine > doubles. And from what > I've been reading on this digest, Wisconsin is in the higher > range of fines. > > Clarence; more careful in construction zones, but yes, I > understand the desire to go > faster when nobody's around and the road is straight and clear ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6023 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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