[uucdigest]        Wednesday, January 15 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6025



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Floor jack
       Re: [uuc] <E36> M3 Sedan questions
       [uuc] American Collectors
       [uuc] BMW CCA Driving Events (was Insurance, again)
       [uuc] <BMW X5  4.6is> and car washes...
       [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6024
       RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations
       RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations
       [uuc] RE: Input shaft seal?
       [uuc] E34 525i ellipsoid replacement
       [uuc] Re: [Insurance -- AGAIN]

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:08:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Floor jack

Joe sez:

"I, and alot of racer/track school types out my 
way, have bought the US General aluminum jack ....
www.harborfreight.com."

And, HF is having a free shipping AND $5.00 off AND
"get a free attache case" promotion right now. You
need to order over the phone NOT on the web to get
this deal. I have the catalogue at home and can get
the info if anyone wants it.

Jon<----ordered some other items (multimeter was
one)from HF but
just...could...not...pull...the....trigger on the alu
jack, since I don't do driving schools (see other
thread on ins. coverage NOT, I do live in Mass.) any
more and have a heavy floor jack in the garage (around
$80 at Costco)



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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:06:46 -0600
From: "John Van Houten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> M3 Sedan questions

> Any differences between the sedan and the coupe (besides the seats, the
> framed-in doors, and the taillight/side markers)?
>
> Any comments?

I've been fortunate to have both, and I think the sedan is the better all-around
vehicle.  I have a 95 coupe (under construction) for a race car and a 97 sedan
that is a daily driver and has been a school car for my wife and I while the
race car is being (re)built.

I think the coupe is better for the track (lower height, better aero), but if it
is going to be dual use vehicle, get the sedan.  The only stock thing my coupe
has over the sedan is folding rear seats, which is nice on a daily driver for
holding more stuff in the back.

I'll tell you, I've spent the last two years driving the stock M3 sedan and it
has made a huge improvement in my driving after "downgrading" from the modified
E36 coupe.  The M3 is amazingly capable car out of the box and driving in as
such really opened my eyes.

John

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:28:37 -0500
From: Tom Byrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] American Collectors

Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(01/15/2003 11:04)
>At 1.5% of the vehicle value .. that   makes an annual premium
>on a 20K track car only $300...  Compared to the average 10-15% 
>surcharge ( for 3 years!)     Again, it depends on your situation,
>but let's assume you have two cars (his and hers) and together you
>pay $1600 annually (that may be cheap for some of you in metro areas)..
>A 10-15% increase  would be levied  across ALL your automobiles on the 
>policy if  you claim a loss..  Assuming  the minimum 10% increase, that's still
>$480 over a 3 year period .. And then there's the likelihood you could 
>get dropped after the claim is paid!   
>
>oh...  by the way... the  amount of the policy is an "agreed" value.. so 
>no hassling when the loss happens.. ... let's see.  20K vehicle... less  20% 
>deductible... That's 16K back  if you wad it up  at the track... 
>In my mind, that $300 bucks  for additional coverage is a no brainer..

So, for the agreed value...if I wanted to say my car is worth twice 
what most would say it is to me, for instance a 10,000 dollar car 
insured for an agreed value of 20,000, will they take my 300 dollars 
and insure me for twenty grand?  Does that then make the car 
essentially un-totalable (80% value in damages)? If it is totalable, 
do I get the 20k of coverage less the deductible and come out with 
16k to buy another car with? That hardly makes sense.

                Tom Byrum

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:01:26 -0500
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW CCA Driving Events (was Insurance, again)

Kurt Zimmerman wrote:

>I was at an Audi school last weekend.  There was an emergency room Dr 
>there who is collecting statistics on accidents in California and the 
>effect a driver's safety seminar has on that number.   His numbers have 
>all sorts of bias in them, however they were still interesting.  He said 
>that 50% of people in the 18-24 age group will get in an accident.  He 
>then looked at over 500 drivers in that age group who had attended a 
>driver's safety seminar.  Less than 5% of those who had attended a 
>safety seminar had been involved in an accident.  He's been trying to 
>present his findings to the insurance companies, but they're not listening.

And Clarence added >>
>> And why should they. The insurance industry has no motivation to encourage 
>> people to become better drivers. Wow, imagine a reduction in accidents which 
>> should translate into lower premiums which could translate into less revenue. Yes, 
>> I'm very sarcastic re: insurance companies.

More importantly, I feel you should have said ---> And why should they. The insurance 
industry has absolutely no desire to make exceptions to any particular group (those 
who have attended a driver's safety seminar in this example) where they would offer 
lower premiums in recognition of this accomplishment.  Instead, they benefit by having 
safer drivers (lower claims) without lower premiums.

It is a win-win for the insurance industry to have safer drivers, they just wouldn't 
want to recognize if they don't have to by lowering premiums.

Otherwise, I basically agree with Clarence.

Later,

Rich

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:25:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <BMW X5  4.6is> and car washes...

Gary:

Turns out I have water restrictions in my county. 
I've never had water restrictions before in my life! 
So, I can't wash the car at home unless I do it before
10am or after 10pm on odd days or something like that.

I think the self-wash car washes will have to do. 
Either that or I land up at Scott's every day and do
it there.  I think he has restrictions too, but his
back yard is hidden from inspection!

Neil Deshpande

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:18:00 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] re: <BMW X5  4.6is> and car
washes...

One can do a very  good job by hand, also a very poor
job.
Gary Derian

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:36:30 -0800
From: "2002ADsales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6024

Justin:
Several years ago I had a long talk with a representative from Glasurit (the
make BMW OE paint). I described the cracks/scratches etc. in the clear coat
to him and asked his advice. He told me that in a hot climate 90-100 degree
weather, sun baking on the car, the clear coat and the underlying paint will
contract and expand at different temperatures. This causes the pint to rub
against the clear coat, on the inside, which means they cannot be removed by
polish etc. So how does one prevent this? Don't park in intense sunlight! Or
use a cover. I don't think car washes has a whole lot to do with it.
Leif

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:09:00 -0500
From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re: <BMW X5  4.6is> and car washes...

Depends on your car wash.

The older style car washes that are prevalent here in Mass. use the
cloth material will kill your clearcoat (end up drying it out and it
WILL spider-web like crazy). I can't tell you the number of cars
(expensive or otherwise) that look like hell because of this. All the
grime from everyone elses cars ends up caught in the cloth material and
it gets rubbed in your paint.

Newer "touchless" car washes are better but they still dry out your
paint and remove any useful wax as the detergents are too harsh.

Its just safer to leave the car dirty until you can hand wash them.

Opinions differ wildly on this subject of course.

- - -Justin
'76 02 (sleeping)
'97 m3 (dirty as hell)





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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:37:45 -0500
From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations

> > I think this applies in most states I've driven in
> > recently......For a while
> > Georgia tried enforcing a law that said speeding any amount
> > in construction
> > zones would result in an automatic 30-day in jail
> > sentence.....didn't last
> > long, the police, courts, jails couldn't handle the load....
>
> Ask help from my greath nation of wilrderness.
> We know how to fill out jails with pot smoker, speeders, shoplifters and
> so.
>
> Rapeist, killers and real drug lords can walk freely as your jails
> are full and they are in que to waste time here.
>

Sounds just like the United States.

Except we can be proud enough to say <sarcastically, for the humor impaired>
that we have the highest percentage of our population imprisioned of any
nation in the civilized(?) world!

- -A

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:52:31 -0800
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Rob and radar detector recommendations

Ask Mark pointed out we have a doubling of fines in Calif. where construction
zones are located..... as speeding and other traffic fines are really revenue
generators the definition of a "construction zone" becomes shall we say
creattive.

- -Kevin

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:04:38 -0800
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Input shaft seal?

Brett notes:
"1. You nicked it on installation, probably by not throughly cleaning and
lubing the end of the shaft."
 I hate when that happens...; ^ D

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:10:42 -0500
From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E34 525i ellipsoid replacement

I've been pondering how best to repair/replace the pitted ellipsoids on the
5er.  This Ebay auction has a very attractive price for european ellipsoids.
Price seems rather low compared to other replacement options.  Can anyone
comment on the product?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33710&item
=2400220977

Also, has anyone bought the replacement lenses (also on Ebay)?  This might
be a cost effective interim solution until Gary D. comes up with that Cibie
conversion :).

Cheers,

Roland

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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:23:02 -0500
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: [Insurance -- AGAIN]

Thanks to Rich for pointing out my potentially misleading statement.  Rich
is correct in his interpretation.  The insurance policy wording that was
referenced (which is in policies all across the country), does not APPLY to
BMW CCA Drivers' Schools.  I.e. you SHOULD have insurance coverage at such
an event.

Alternatively, the Massachusetts policy attempted to ensure that it DID
apply to driving schools, though I personally think it was horribly written
and is very challengeable in court.

Stan


Stan says >
> The policy referenced (which does VERY closely mimic
> many other policies) is very carefully worded.  And it very explicitly
does
> NOT cover a BMW CCA Drivers' School (or similar driving school).  The
policy
> specifically mentions:
>
>     Any vehicle located inside a facility designed for racing for the
> purpose of:
>         a. Competing in; or
>         b. Practicing or preparing for;
>     Any prearranged or organized racing or speed contest.

I had to read this part a few times to decide whether I agree with you or
not (the part where you stress "NOT cover").  You have to very careful how
you say this.  At first, I thought you were saying that the insurance
carrier would not cover a claim or loss that arises from a BMW CCA Drivers'
School (or similar driving school).  I think what you actually intend to say
is that the insurance wording exception does not contemplate or apply to a
BMW CCA Drivers' School (or similar driving school).

Am I correct?

Regards,

Rich

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