[uucdigest]        Wednesday, January 22 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6045



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       RE: [uuc] Test drives
       Re: [uuc] Test drives
       Re: [uuc] V1 update
       [uuc] E30 Light Reset Pin Numbers
       [uuc] OT: Viruses and Disease; Was V1 update
       [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6044
       [uuc] Test drives
       Re: [uuc] E30 Light Reset Pin Numbers
       Re: [uuc] Test drives
       [uuc] re: "new" 95 540i
       RE: [uuc] Pelican E36 Jack Pad

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:41:29 -0500
From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Test drives

If you feel nervous, then by all means go with them.   I cant think of a
reason that a buyer would be put off by that.  

I would also add, I have walked away from buying certain cars due to the
owner being funny about driving over 60mph, didn't want me to test the ABS,
etc etc etc.   To some, that is abusing the car, to me it is using it as
designed.  

I think the initial conversation should be focused on discussing their
driving experiences, expectations etc out of the car.   Some might buy it
after seeing, some might want to test all the systems.   Given the expense,
I would be giving it a very through test drive, lol.  


Also, try to find a route that you can show them that allows some interstate
miles, then some low traffic back roads, etc.   Really put some thought in
find good roads that show case the cars abilities, but at the same time,
avoid rough traffic or a lot of stop and go stuff.   

Mike 




- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike McLeish
 Until now, I've always just traded in my old cars at the dealership.
Now, I'm trying to sell my M5 myself, and I have a concern about potential
buyers test-driving the car.

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:10:47 -0500
From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Test drives

LOL!  Before Brett bought that M5 I was trying to find a buyer for it.  One
guy showed up and started checking out all the fit and finish details,
looking under the hood at how clean it was or wasn't, checking underneath,
etc.  Then he wanted to test drive it so I handed him the keys and rode
along.  Well, after lugging the engine for several miles and only
occasionally touching on the speed limit I asked him to pull over and let me
drive.  I proceeded to put the car through its paces.  He got to experience
threshhold braking right to turn-in on narrow back roads, two and four wheel
drifts, full throttle bump-the-rev-limiter acceleration, some air time, and
in general the limits as near as I could get on those roads.

Then with him pale as a sheet I drove home, let him out, and told him I
wouldn't sell the car to him because I didn't feel he could ever learn to
drive it properly.  He eventually found one and bought it and I laughed
recently to see it for sale as a garage queen, never wet, never dirty, never
smoked in, never eaten in, original brakes...  you know the type.

Geeeze


From: "Mike McLeish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Until now, I've always just traded in my old cars at the dealership.
> Now, I'm trying to sell my M5 myself, and I have a concern about potential
> buyers test-driving the car.
>
> What do you guys normally do? Let them take it out alone, or stay in the
> car with them? I cringe at both options. What if they start driving like
an
> idiot while I'm in it? BTW, what's the expected half-life of an idiot in
an
> M5 for the first time?!

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:33:55 -0800
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] V1 update

OK for Brad, Mr. "Ewww you lick 'em"...... just give the cups a good open
mouthed exhale... you really only want a mono-layer of moisture on a **clean**
surfaces to get good seal integrity.

- -Kevin

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:46:22 -0500
From: "Mohamed Haider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E30 Light Reset Pin Numbers

Hello everyone,
I am looking to reset the inspection lights on my 87 E30.  Could someone
let me know the pin numbers used for this procedure.  I have my own tool
that I use to reset the pins on my E34.
Thanks in advance,
Mohamed

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:48:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] OT: Viruses and Disease; Was V1 update

Hey pal, I'm just trying to keep someone from getting
a tongue full of fly excriment or something.  ; -)

I've never had a problem with licking my
recently-cleaned finger and rubbing it around on the
cups.

Brad "Clean Tongue" Couvillon


- --- KKiely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK for Brad, Mr. "Ewww you lick 'em"...... just give
> the cups a good open
> mouthed exhale... you really only want a mono-layer
> of moisture on a **clean**
> surfaces to get good seal integrity.
> 
> -Kevin

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:28:14 -0800
From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6044

Roland 

Shifting a slushbox in and out of gear causes clutches to release and
reset.  Just leaving it in gear causes oil to circulate in the torque
converter, with some generation of heat.  Neither one should have much
effect; however, when the London taxi's first converted to automatics
they had a very high failure rate.  Turned out the problem was traced to
the cabbies shifting into neutral at traffic lights.

Brant

<<<<<From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 1990 e34 525iA- tranny, side view mirror
. . . . .And since the internet is a
wonderful source of dubious knowledge, is it worthwhile to place the
transmission in -N- during long stops (yeah I already hear you, "define
long....)?  I've long removed my foot from the clutch on manuals at stop
lights, does doing the equivalent to an automatic improve the life in
any
way?. . . . .
Roland>>>>>

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:45:21 -0500
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Test drives

Mike says >
> So, as I'm accelerating down the
> entrance ramp to merge onto the interstate, doing around 70-80mph, Brett's
> in the passengers seat saying "Comon' ya WUSS, put cha FOOT inta it!" -
> LOL. He had no idea what an amauter racecar driver I was/am.

That is almost word-for-word what he said when I test drove Kathy's E46 M3...

;-)

Actually, I have sold a number of used cars.  I always have a lot of discussion with 
them about the aforementioned car and their background before ever getting into the 
car with them.  I do ride along though.  No way am I letting them out on their own.  I 
have seen cars and been in cars that were test driven without the owner in the car.  
Bad idea.  I wouldn't send my wife alone on the test drive though (anyone familiar 
with the pregnant woman in NE Ohio that did this last year???).

Anyway, my primary tips:
- - Gauge the indvidual(s) that want to take a test drive and try to get a read on the 
situation before taking a drive.
- - Don't be afraid to tell them what you expect in a test drive but give them a good 
opportunity to drive the car.
- - Make out a specific time and place to meet (and communicate this to your SO, etc.) 
and don't do it at your home (their home is preferable in my opinion).
- - Facilitate long-range purchases (I have bought two cars this way and the 
cooperative sellers won my business).

Best regards,

Rich - kidding above about Brett's comments.  Since they weren't selling the M3 and it 
was brand spankin new, I think he said "break this car and you'll be paying for it for 
a long time" (with an Aussie accent of course).

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:12:24 -0800
From: Chris Baisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Light Reset Pin Numbers

Pins 7 and 19 for the cars with the round diag. connector with the black 
cap (which I believe are 87-91).  If you look at the connector from the 
drivers side of the car, with the pacman shaped thing in the centre, 7 is 
at 3:00 on the outside, and 19 is at 6:00 on the inside.

screw that, here's the page I was "reading" to you!

http://www.beckerelectronics.com/BMW/servicelightreset.html

At 01:46 PM 1/22/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>I am looking to reset the inspection lights on my 87 E30.  Could someone
>let me know the pin numbers used for this procedure.  I have my own tool
>that I use to reset the pins on my E34.
>Thanks in advance,
>Mohamed

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:13:18 -0500
From: "Peter W. Sterne, Sr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Test drives

Some years ago I sold my '74 2002tii to this real relaxed Californian 
who had somehow transported himself to Connecticut.  I rode along on his 
test drive and had to keep telling him to let the engine rev a bit 
because that's how 02s are supposed to be driven.  Eventually he stalled 
it going up a steep hill in 3rd at about 30mph, but I sold the car to 
him anyway.  The last time I saw it he was cruising down I-95 in 
Stamford, CT at about 45mph with his elbow on the window sill.  This is 
a car I actually talked a young, cute, female student at Syracuse 
University out of buying, because I was worried she would get stranded 
in the freezing New York winter.  I still feel good about finding the 
perfect buyer for that tired 2002.

Regards,
Peter Sterne
'03 325i
CCA 183724
(Sailboat shopping in the dead of winter)

Pat Donahue wrote:

>LOL!  Before Brett bought that M5 I was trying to find a buyer for it.  One
>guy showed up and started checking out all the fit and finish details,
>looking under the hood at how clean it was or wasn't, checking underneath,
>etc.  Then he wanted to test drive it so I handed him the keys and rode
>along.  Well, after lugging the engine for several miles and only
>occasionally touching on the speed limit I asked him to pull over and let me
>drive.  I proceeded to put the car through its paces.  He got to experience
>threshhold braking right to turn-in on narrow back roads, two and four wheel
>drifts, full throttle bump-the-rev-limiter acceleration, some air time, and
>in general the limits as near as I could get on those roads.
>
>Then with him pale as a sheet I drove home, let him out, and told him I
>wouldn't sell the car to him because I didn't feel he could ever learn to
>drive it properly.  He eventually found one and bought it and I laughed
>recently to see it for sale as a garage queen, never wet, never dirty, never
>smoked in, never eaten in, original brakes...  you know the type.
>
>Geeeze
>
>
>From: "Mike McLeish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
>
>>Until now, I've always just traded in my old cars at the dealership.
>>Now, I'm trying to sell my M5 myself, and I have a concern about potential
>>buyers test-driving the car.
>>
>>What do you guys normally do? Let them take it out alone, or stay in the
>>car with them? I cringe at both options. What if they start driving like
>>    
>>
>an
>  
>
>>idiot while I'm in it? BTW, what's the expected half-life of an idiot in
>>    
>>
>an
>  
>
>>M5 for the first time?!
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:21:34 -0500
From: "Kevin T. Clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re: "new" 95 540i

    I just bought a 95 540i 6 spd, green w/ parchment 80k miles.  The 
car runs great but a couple of little things.  It already has the 
Bilstein sport shocks installed.  The tires break loose very easy 
through 3 gear.  I'm thinking of upgrading to 18 x 8.5/9.5  M Parallels 
from Wheel Exchange along with Kumho MX's from Tire Rack.  Right now I 
have the stock 15" mesh wheels with Pirelli P4000.
    The throw on the shifter seems long.  I ordered a UUC short shifter 
w/ delrin bushings, sealed cartridge bearing and the chromo knob.  I am 
also thinking of putting in a Jim C chip and an IGT air filter.  I plan 
on taking the car to Driver's Ed events as soon as possible.
    The CD player will cut out after 30 sec of playing a song, no volume 
but shows track and no error code?  Anything I should check?
   
Thanks,
Kevin Clifford
95 540i 6 spd
02 Acura TL Type S- (wife's car)
91 Nissan 240sx- daily beater/snow car w/ rwd and 50/50 weight distribution
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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:50:02 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Pelican E36 Jack Pad

I ordered one last week.  Always thought the $100 for the UG version was
insane.  I'll let you know what I think of the Pelican version when I get
it.  I have used the UG one so I'll be able to make an valid comparison.
I'll even use my $200 HF jack ;-0

Marco


- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of matthew c. mead
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Pelican E36 Jack Pad


It's on their website, now.  Here's the pics:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/BMW_images/JP_0014_1.JPG
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/BMW_images/JP_0014_2.JPG
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/BMW_images/JP_0014_3.JPG


- -matt

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:45:48AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Has anyone seen/used the new $29.95 Pelican Parts E36 jack pad advertised
in
> the January Roundel?  Does it work as well as one would expect?  I've had
> their $14 jack pad for my 911 for years and never had a hint of a problem
> with it.  Unfortunately, I finally buckled and bought the $100 uber-pad
from
> Ultimate Garage a while back after looking for an alternative forever.
> Looks like I should have held out a while longer.  No doubt the UG pad is
> fancier, but is it more functional?  For a $70 premium it ought to be.
> Jeez.
>
> Kevin
> '95 M3
> Rolex Jack Pad
>
>

- --
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97 Dakar M3/4
97 White GS-R/4
92 Black Miata
87 White Saab 900S

http://www.goof.com/~mmead/

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