[uucdigest] Thursday, January 23 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6050
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Disabling Traction Control Re: [uuc] Torque for wheel bolts [uuc] Pelican E36 Jack Pad Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 Re: [uuc] <E30> Frozen Starter Re: [uuc] Disabling Traction Control Re: [uuc] Brett's projects, was Disabling Traction Control RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 RE: [uuc] Disabling Traction Control Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 Re: [uuc] AA Supercharger Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 [uuc] Re: UG jack pad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:33:02 +0100 (CET) From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Disabling Traction Control On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > Unplug the SRS control unit under the rear seat. That will disable > the system, and turn off the light in the cluster, without > destroying anything. I have a silly question. Will this leave the airbags connected to a long open circuit, and sensitive to static discharges? Call me superstitious, but I am the sort who shorts out electrical blasting caps that shouldn't go off. -John '96 318is ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:25:08 +0100 (CET) From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Torque for wheel bolts I believe the recommended wheel torque was revised from 100 Nm (71 ft lb) to 120 Nm (85 ft lb). There are rumors of wheel bolts sheering off at 120 Nm so some use 110 Nm, roughly the value Brett recommends. One grizzled mechanic said the rumors only applied to FIATs, an abbreviation for "Fehler In Alle Teile". Anyway, the word I hear on this side of the big puddle is that either 110 or 120 Nm works fine. On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > > Yes, but FWIW, 71 ft lb is too low. Use 80. > > Brett Anderson > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Burtsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Do I need to go back to watching my wheels installed or do it myself? > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:44:53 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Pelican E36 Jack Pad Bora says > > if you were jacking up hundreds of BMWs all year, you would not be using a > jack pad, a lift would be more in order :-) That lift part is pretty funny eh Brett? Anyway, that jack plate only works on E36 M3s AFAIK. I don't think Brett works on hundreds of E36 M3s every year. I have a UG jack plate but I rarely use it. Why, because I have been jacking up my E36 M3 exactly the same way Brett does. It really couldn't be any simpler. The numbskulls over on the E36 M3 list are arguing about this very topic again (we just did this thread a week or so ago). I told them the way I did it at that time but only one person responded to me and he doesn't seem to have much confidence that I know what I am talking about. Regards, Rich - jacks up his E30 and E36 the same way...and it is easy to put them on four jack stands. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:49:01 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 "Ryan Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am wanting to upgrade the suspension on my 325 (e36) > to that of it's M3 counterpart. Ryan, Do yourself a favor and buy decent aftermarket suspension instead. E36M3 Boge shocks are notoriously fragile and most are worthless after 30-50K miles. E36M3 front sway bars will not bolt to the non-M3 shock towers which lack a sway bar link tab on the housing. So to go with M3 setup you would need to pay for worthless shocks just to gut them with Koni inserts. > I was searching the archives of this digest and have not > found what I was looking for. I have heard that the retrofit > is not to difficult. It's a direct bolt on. > Has anyone done this who would be willing to talk to me > about a few concerns that I have? If you still want ///M3 stuff, I have '95 M3 springs and sway bars gathering dust in the garage. Make me an offer. Hack, I will even consider offers for my M3 strut towers with Koni SA shocks already in them! HTH, alex f ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:50:29 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Frozen Starter So difficult to find a complete tool kit on these BMW cars. My hammer and wooden pole are nowhere to be found! ;-) N. Jay or did those only come with the cold weather option package... > My starter is freezing in the cold weather. It was hard to turn last night > and this morning it would not budge. > I whacked it with a hammer and wooden pole. After that it started > immediately. > > Should I interpret this as a consequence of the far sub-freezing > temperatures here, or should I get a new starter? > I see they are not too badly priced out on the web. > > Thanks, > > Matthew Twigg > Network Administrator > SunGard Insurance Systems | 313 Speen Street Natick, MA 01760 > (508) 903-1758 > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:02:37 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Disabling Traction Control I think the original poster was intending to totally remove the bags, but if not, then the safe way to do it is simply unplug them. The connector on any of BMWs pyrotechnic devices has a bridge that shorts the two pins together when unplugged. This prevents misfiring from static discharge. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Firestone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a silly question. Will this leave the airbags connected to a > long open circuit, and sensitive to static discharges? Call me > superstitious, but I am the sort who shorts out electrical blasting > caps that shouldn't go off. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:03:51 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Brett's projects, was Disabling Traction Control As with the ODB, it's "on it's way"..... Finding a reliable machinest is not easy, even though they're all screaming that there's no work. ODB should be getting final testing in the next 2 weeks. Jack stand adapters are much further off. - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member > And your jack stand adapters? > > >And is your oil distribution block ready yet?! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:19:50 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 Jesse, The 95 M3 swaybars measure 22.5 mm front and 19 mm rear. The 325i/is sport package has larger front sways, 25.5 mm, but smaller rears, 18 mm. Also, the 325i/is non-sport has 24 mm front and 15 mm rear sways. Hope that helps! Nick Somma 95 325i w/sport package swaybars for now :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:27:46 +0100 From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Disabling Traction Control > I gotta look in the rules and see if it's legal. Not fun when it's legal ;D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:44:59 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 The M3 bars connect directly to the strut and are therefore stiffer acting for a given diameter than the 325 bar. Gary Derian > Jesse, > > The 95 M3 swaybars measure 22.5 mm front and 19 mm rear. The 325i/is sport package has larger front sways, 25.5 mm, but smaller rears, 18 mm. Also, the 325i/is non-sport has 24 mm front and 15 mm rear sways. Hope that helps! > > Nick Somma > 95 325i w/sport package swaybars for now :) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:41:51 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 Guys, This info is deceiving. M3 sway bars attach to the shock tower casing. Non-M3 bars (both E30 and E36) attach to the control arm. Thus the deal with a force transmitted through a far greater lever. So even though they are physically thicker, they are a lot less effective than M3 bars. Alas, non-M3s lack the tab on the strut casing and thus can not use front M3 sway bars. alex f [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jesse, > > The 95 M3 swaybars measure 22.5 mm front and 19 mm rear. > The 325i/is sport package has larger front sways, 25.5 mm, > but smaller rears, 18 mm. Also, the 325i/is non-sport has > 24 mm front and 15 mm rear sways. Hope that helps! > > Nick Somma > 95 325i w/sport package swaybars for now :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:46:59 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 IIRC, the M3 front sway bar can be smaller and still effectively stiffer due to its attachment points on the strut housings (vs. the control arm attachment on the 325). N. Jay > Jesse, > > The 95 M3 swaybars measure 22.5 mm front and 19 mm rear. The 325i/is sport package has larger front sways, 25.5 mm, but smaller rears, 18 mm. Also, the 325i/is non-sport has 24 mm front and 15 mm rear sways. Hope that helps! > > Nick Somma > 95 325i w/sport package swaybars for now :) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:28:35 -0500 From: "Chamberlain, Jesse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 I forgot about the swaybar link to the front strut. That definetly is the main difference in the front suspensions. If you compared a 325i sport/non-sport sway bar to an M3 sway bar, aren't they the same profile (have all the same bends etc, except for the thickness)? I thought, and I could definetly be wrong, that they were interchangeable. For example, taking the 325i sport swaybar and connecting it to a front M3 strut? Just wondering.. :) Jesse C. - -----Original Message----- From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 The M3 bars connect directly to the strut and are therefore stiffer acting for a given diameter than the 325 bar. Gary Derian > Jesse, > > The 95 M3 swaybars measure 22.5 mm front and 19 mm rear. The 325i/is sport package has larger front sways, 25.5 mm, but smaller rears, 18 mm. Also, the 325i/is non-sport has 24 mm front and 15 mm rear sways. Hope that helps! > > Nick Somma > 95 325i w/sport package swaybars for now :) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:36:38 +1000 From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] AA Supercharger We used a Rotrex supercharger on an M50 as the first engine package in our E30 race car. Unit was reliable but only good for around 10lb of boost. Small size is a boon for neat fitment in a crowded BMW engine bay........ Kim H - -----Original Message----- From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, 23 January 2003 1:51 Subject: RE: [uuc] AA Supercharger >http://www.rotrex.eu.com/ > >Everything you want to know about it. It is a Denmark based company that >invented it. Seems like the rest, gear driven internally using the exit >side of a turbo, uses its own oil supply and cooler. Never seen one >personally and never seen a positive boost system that is worthy of a modern >BMW either, AA included. > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:08 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [uuc] AA Supercharger > >Gruppe: > >Does anybody know what breed supercharger they are using here...don't >recognize it from among the usual suspects. AA has a fair reputation in the >turbo world, just wondering if anybody has heard anything about this system? > >See it at: http://www.activeautowerke.com/Supercharged/default.asp > >Respectfully, >Andrew Joseph >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >----- Original Message ----- >> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:35:24 -0500 >> From: "Auriflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [uuc] AA supercharger >> >> I just visited their site and saw they have superchargers for sale now. >FYI >> >> John Marshall >> >> ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:47:06 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Retrofit M3 suspension to 94 325 Chamberlain, Jesse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I forgot about the swaybar link to the front strut. That definetly is the > main difference in the front suspensions. Peter Guagenti was telling me this morning that the M3 front kingpins are different and the M3 has a slightly narrower track (and better turn-in) as a result. Anyone swapped M3 kingpins on to a 325? - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:22:37 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: UG jack pad It's sold. (And not to Marco!) Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6050 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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