[uucdigest]         Tuesday, January 28 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6062



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] RE: Seeking ride/handling
       RE: [uuc] Torque for wheel bolts
       RE: [uuc] [M3] Rumbling under acceleration....& the crooked drive line
       [uuc] Re:  Bosch Wipers
       [uuc] How to get mentioned in the Roundel
       Re:[uuc] Windows fog up on E34 M5 
       Re: [uuc] Re:  Bosch Wipers
       [uuc] Never Mind - was shop for PP inspection in Portland OR
       [uuc] RE: Effective best tools
       [uuc] RE: Mike O'Hara's polyurethane bushings
       [uuc] zymol floatin in da 'bay
       [uuc] Antenna gromit/gasket part #
       [uuc] M5 Escrow scam from MSNBC.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:37:22 -0800
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Seeking ride/handling

Lee,
Lee says "I had the mis-fortune of putting my 96 G20t on it's roof.  I was very
impressed.  That car had resin-injected A/B/C pillars."

I think the fill material is a urethane structural foam. It adds a good degree
of stiffness to the member. It's becoming more common on Japanese makes and
should become more common in others soon (my opinion). You can also buy it for
aftermarket applications.

- -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:32:21 -0500
From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Torque for wheel bolts

Rich offered:

>This may seem obvious to most of you but I figured someone here may benefit.
>
>I have taken my lug bolts over to my bench grinder which has a wire wheel 
>mounted on one side.  I then clean all the threads and taper with the wire 
>wheel.  This alone makes a huge difference on the smoothness of the 
>threads and properly torquing them.  I then wipe the threads very lightly 
>with anti-seize (so there is a light film and nothing more) before 
>reinstalling.  I torque to 60 - 70 ft. lbs which has felt about 
>right.  But, my arm isn't calibrated as well as Gary D.
>
>I have yet to have a lug nut fall out, break or over stretch to my 
>knowledge :-)
>
>Later,
>
>Rich
>
>PS - the wire wheel on a bench grinder set-up idea I stole from Brett at 
>KoalaMotorsport.

One big caviat - wear eye protection. Wire wheels are infamous for
tossing a wire out now and then - and an eye is not a place you
want it ending up..

I do use a small stainless brush on my wheel bolts.. only takes
a few seconds each to clean them up, and you can carry the hand
held brush out to the car..


Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/
Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39
"One should do the stuff that makes you smile" - Ulf Bertilsson

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:54:04 -0500
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] [M3] Rumbling under acceleration....& the crooked drive line

Whoops....car is an E30.  The subframe was torn, but it was repaired last
year and upgraded with the turner kit.  I think new motor mounts were put in
as well....but don't have a receipt (hint, hint: you know who you
are--remember if we put motor mounts in?).  I looked to check if the mounts
were broken.  I used a jack to lift the drivetrain slightly to see if the
mounts were loose or broken.  I tried to give the subframe a good looking,
but didn't really have time left to pull the mounts as it was getting dark.

Thanks,
Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marco Romani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [uuc] [M3] Rumbling under acceleration....& the crooked
> driveline
> 
> 
> I agree with Jefrem.  Especially if it's an early production 
> E36 M3 (not
> sure from your post if it's an E30 or E36).  Front subframes 
> in E36s were
> beefed up sometime in late 97ish.  My original subframe was 
> trashed after 3
> years and about 20 driving schools.  The replacement was 
> sturdier than the
> original.
> 
> Marco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jefrem Iwaniw
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [uuc] [M3] Rumbling under acceleration....& the crooked
> driveline
> 
> 
> you say you checked the motor mounts and they were fine -- 
> what did this
> check include?  did you actually jack-up/raise the motor and 
> examine the
> subframe on the passenger side?  my guess is a "bad thing" 
> has happened on
> that side...
> 
> hth,
> -jefrem
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robinson, Lee
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:26 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [uuc] [M3] Rumbling under acceleration....& the crooked
> driveline
> 
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> So the rumbling under acceleration still persists.  The car 
> exhibits several
> quick bangs under full throttle acceleration and only in 1st gear.
> Driveshaft is less then 1100 miles old.  The center bearing & 
> tranny mounts
> are now new.  Looks like it's off to the U-joints.  Hopefully it's
> there.....those would still be under warranty.  :)
> 
> Anyway, I replaced the tranny mounts today (I'll save the new 
> permutations
> for 4-letter word combinations for another post).  The nuts 
> on the top studs
> are really a pain.  Upgraded from the stock mounts to the 
> sturdier 635/535
> mounts.  When I pulled the old mounts, the right mount was 
> shorter by about
> 1/4".  When compared to the replacement mounts, it was clear 
> that the right
> mount had been compressed & the left mount had been stretched.  After
> putting in the new mounts, it's pretty clear that they will 
> suffer the same
> fate.  The right mount already is compressed and the left mount didn't
> contact on top & bottom until the nuts were tightened.  At 
> least the sway
> bar doesn't touch the bell-housing with the suspension 
> unloaded anymore.
> 
> So on to the motor mounts I went (insert more snyde comments about how
> Germany lost the big wars....).  They seem to be fine.  
> Subframe is straight
> & the car looks straight.
> 
> How the hell does my drivetrain sit in there a little 
> crooked?  I assume
> that if the tranny's crooked & the diff is straight, that has 
> to be taken up
> some where.....like the U-joints on the driveshaft.  I think 
> it might be
> reasonable to assume any new driveshaft might fail quickly in 
> this instance.
> 
> Any ideas of what causes this crookedness?  Any of how I might fix it?
> 
> As always, thanks in advance,
> Lee
> 

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:40:02 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re:  Bosch Wipers

FYI, Bosch has changed the design of their wipers.  They no longer use the
ones with the two metal stiffeners, one on each side.  New refills are not
compatible with the old style blade.  Unless you can find someone selling
off the old-style refills, you risk ending up with new style refills that
do not fit in the old style blades.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
1990 325i w/ new style wiper blades

>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:33:43 -0500
>From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] Bosch Wipers
>
>Awhile ago several people in these groups were trying to find Bosch
wipers.
>Well it seems that you can get them thru Amsoil dealers.  they are
carrying
>Bosch wiper blades, spark plugs and spark plug wire sets.  Must have a
deal
>going with Bosch.
>
>David

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:53:09 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] How to get mentioned in the Roundel

So in the January Roundel club racing coverage, Rich Elliott mentioned Kirk
Lachman, but not Marco Romani or Jim Bassett.  Kirk must have a better
lobbiest.   The rest of you guys should see if you can wine and dine Rich,
you should at least get some kind of honorable mention or something.

Hey, just looking out for my friends...

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:17:40 -0800
From: Keith Wollenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:[uuc] Windows fog up on E34 M5 

Jason wrote:
>using a cable to run down the drains works well for me.

I agree completely with the suggestion to check the drains, as a clogged 
drain can lead to excess moisture in the car.

What I have had the very best luck with for clearing a sunroof drain is a 
section of heavy duty weed-whacker nylon line.  It is flexible, does not 
catch on anything, and cannot damage the inside of a drain tube as 
easily.  Of course, if the factory installed your drain tube with 2 180 
degree kinks, it will not fix the problem either.  I leave it as an 
exercise to the reader to figure out why I am so certain of this. <g>

Keith

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:20:32 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re:  Bosch Wipers

First off, let's just say I have always loved Bosch wipers and would
continue using them... IF they were available.

Recently, I discovered that Valeo is now marketing their own brand.  Details
here:

http://www.fluent.com/about/news/newsletters/01v10i2/s3.htm

Valeo is of course the OEM for a variety of automotive parts for most major
manufacturers (and is also one of those big conglomerates like Mitsubishi,
it's the same Valeo that makes weightlifting belts).

I put a set on the 750, and I have to say these are every bit as good as the
Bosch.  In fact, the metal arm is indistinguishable from the Bosch blades
that I took off.

- - Rob


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: [uuc] Re: Bosch Wipers


> FYI, Bosch has changed the design of their wipers.  They no longer use the
> ones with the two metal stiffeners, one on each side.  New refills are not
> compatible with the old style blade.  Unless you can find someone selling
> off the old-style refills, you risk ending up with new style refills that
> do not fit in the old style blades.
>
> Scott Miller
> GGC BMW CCA
> 1990 325i w/ new style wiper blades

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:20 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Never Mind - was shop for PP inspection in Portland OR

Everyone, thanks for the input, but now that my friend got serious about
that car, the seller has decided to pull it off the market.  Too bad, my
friend has to go to Portland this week on business anyway.

Please let me know if you know of any E39 528i 5 speeds for sale on the
west coast of the U.S.  I'm sure my friend will be interested.

Thanks,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:52:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Effective best tools

Marco/Kevin:

Yes, those are the spring compressors, but I cannot
tell whether they use a crank or an external
hydraulic/pneumatic line.

I have the BMP ball-joint removal tool, a little
press.  Works nicely on tie-rod ends, but not much
else.  In my experience, fit is the biggest problem so
get something that will fit.  Some of these clever
devices don't.  

On my E34, I simply removed the plate under the strut
tube with all ball joints attached, the tie-rod at the
inner end, all the control arms bushing ends and then
R&R'd the TA bushing.  No ball joint work at all!

Neil Deshpande

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"Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I've seen one of those used before.  Very effective,
especially if you want to reuse the part in question. 
Pickle forks can really mess up the 
rubber dust boots.

***

Found this and from an engineering standpoint it looks
pretty good.... also in their catalog are the spring
compressors described by Neil.

http://www.mayhew.com/products/ball.htm

- - -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:31:29 -0800
From: "Polands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Mike O'Hara's polyurethane bushings

While we were talking about PPI recommendations in Portland OR, Kevin
Kiely praised O'Hara's thrust arm bushings.  To which I'll add a hearty
second.  I had Mike install his bushings in my '88 535is at 142,000
miles (9/5/97).  I have only just recently had a new set of them
installed, at 224,000 miles!!  This is "somewhat longer" service period
than the 12,000 to maybe 30,000 miles max you get with the stock
bushings.  He uses them in E28, E34 and contemporary 7 series fitment as
well.  Very Highly recommended.

Steve Poland

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:13:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] zymol floatin in da 'bay

Found more Zymol kits...
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=anteaterbullfrog

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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:39:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Antenna gromit/gasket part #

Anyone with the ETK have the part # for a Antenna
gromit/gasket? I have a 89 325i E30. Just got my
used/new Antenna and it didn't have the gasket.

Thanks

Kyle Sanchez

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:41:11 -0600
From: "phil irby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] M5 Escrow scam from MSNBC.com

Not that I would ever be able to afford one, but just thought this might
be of interest just in case other listers were buying a  high $$ car and
considering using "escrow sites" to pay for it.

http://msnbc.com/news/854552.asp?0cl=cR

Caveat Emptor!

Phil

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