[uucdigest] Wednesday, February 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6091
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] need auto trans info Re: [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... RE: [uuc] Did I miss something <OT> Re: [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... RE: [uuc] E36 Tranny Troubles cont'd, plus taillights Re: : [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... Re: [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... RE: [uuc] Euro S50B30 (286HP) engine for sale - Was: 6 Throttle [uuc] Fwd: BMW Database for Sale [uuc] Re:E36 taillights ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:15:58 -0000 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] need auto trans info Rosario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Wife is going for a newer car, getting out of the Nissan going for a BMW. Going to buy used and current either, like 95 thru 00 years. I am new to BMW with auto transmissions, so here are my questions. What cars came with auto trans that I should stay away from? Are there any good model trans I should look for?" Most US BMWs came with different auto gearboxes to home-market BMWs. In cars built between 1995 and 2000 you will generally find a GM-Strasbourg 4- or 5-speed auto behind the 4- and 6-cylinder engines, and a ZF behind the V8s and V12s. Despite ZF's hundred-year-old reputation for building fragile automatic transmissions, none of the modern ZF autoboxes have weak points, provided they are looked after (which, for me, would involve ignoring BMW's "lifetime fill" claim for later cars). My mechanic had never heard of the older GM four-speeder (fitted to lesser E36 3ers over here) ever going wrong, which bodes well. The GM 5-speed auto is featured in the diesel-engined 3s and 5s; they're too new to be showing up any signs of fragility. Andy T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:18:03 -0500 From: "Pat Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... Ah. One tiny innocent little phrase tantamount to "merely encircle the earth with a single thread without breaking it". Geeeze From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... and include > operating the ABS unit to get a complete flush. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:20:15 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Did I miss something <OT> > Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes about the C320K: > > "Damn, looking at their website, 17" wheels shod with decent > tires & the > sport suspension are standard too. Available from $28.7k. > Choose this over > a 325 any day..." > > Ah, but that would be *Mercedes* sports suspension. > > :) It was prolly due to the vehicle weight, but I drove the 330i & C230K sport coupe back to back. Both sport package equipped (BMW had 18" wheels though). I thought the MB was more fun & provided better driver feedback & steering. The BMW was more powerful though, even so, the MB's extra gear made short work of this, even at highway speeds. Again, this prolly has a lot to do with vehicle weight. Can't comment on the MB 2.3L's smoothness though.....I had just gotten out of an E30 M3.. > > BTW thank you to Malcolm for pointing out that the new C320K > has a 1.8 litre > engine. The only specs I could find were for the C320K Sport > Coupe, which > featured the earlier 2.3 litre motor - not the smoothest four-cylinder > engine ever to turn a crank. A good job Mercedes replaced it, as it > practically invalidated the Merc as an option for anyone with > an ear for > mechanical harmony. > > Andy T Lee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 15:19:39 -0500 From: "Tom Melton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... The biggest issue with DOT5 silicone fluid is not that it does not mix with the other DOTs, but the fact that it does not play well with ABS systems. As I understand it, the rapid, mechanical pumping of the fluid can lead to problems, almost like aeration of the fluid, and loss of most braking force. I have heard for years, read too, that DOT5 should not EVER be used in a vehicle with ABS. It is VERY good for older trailer queens. My experience is based on usage in Corvette systems, and the older Vettes that see mainly shows tend to have rusty braking systems when using DOT3,4 fluids, due to the lack of use. Clean up the rust (hone, replace, etc) and use DOT5 and the braking system becomes pretty much a forget about item. Your mileage may vary... Tom Melton 95 M3 82 Collector Edition Vette 86 Z51 Vette (track car) >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/03 02:33PM >>> I confronted the mechanic that replaced the DOT 4 fluid w silicone based DOT 5 and he was clueless about it. He said "really? I only get dot 3 and 5 I can't find any DOT 4." Then I asked him to see what he used hoping that maybe he was using DOT 5.1 (synthetic but not silicone based) and he showed me the bottle. Unfortunately it was DOT 5 w SILICONE spelled out on the front if the bottle. Then he turned it and read "Not to be used w DOT 3 or 4" dahhhhh. Then he added "Did you have any problem?" Answer : "not yet..." Machanic: "It should be fine." The guy just lost all of my respect that fast. I'm planning to flush the system a couple of times w DOT 4 and see what happens (after all the DOT 5 was in only for about 5-6 months). Thx for the info guys. Original Email: I believe that my last mechanic when flushing the brakes used DOT 5 Fluid. First of all, does anyone know if there are 2 types of DOT 5 one silicone the other NON-silicone based? From a brief search on the Internet it seems that as long as DOT 5 silicone based was not mixed w DOT 4 or 3 it's ok. Unfortunately, it seems that just flushing the brakes is not enough. Anyone has any ideas comments? How can I check what kind of DOT fluid I have in my system? If it is DOT 5 silicone based what do you suggest to do? Just flush it a couple of times w DOT 4? Thx in advance. Stefano ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:27:12 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 Tranny Troubles cont'd, plus taillights Yep saw the same problem on an employee's 93 325is. Contact was burned through. Look on ebay. Plenty there from the guys "upgrading" to clear lenses. marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Baker Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:51 AM To: UUC Digest Subject: [uuc] E36 Tranny Troubles cont'd, plus taillights I feared that this might get missed if I tacked it onto my last post, but a question has arisen concerning the tranny repair. The Roundel speaks of destroying the plastic plug on removal, but this item is not available from the dealer. I don't really want to remove it and then find out I can't find anything to replace it with. Any suggestions on where I might be able to find such an item? Any Getrag transmission rebuilders that might have what I need? Also, I've had ongoing problems with the taillight circuit in my car. Near as I can tell, the issue is with the metal contact plate on the back of the taillight housing that the bulb holders make contact with. They seem to be corroding, with one side actually having a hole through it. This is not rust; more like it's been burned through. Is it possible to replace just this plate? The dealer says no. Anyone have spare E36 taillights they're looking to get rid of cheap? Busted ones where this plate may be in good shape? Thanks, Chris Baker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:45:30 -0500 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: : [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... I guess that mechanic falls in to my "seriously clueless" category. Stan Gaudio, Stefano Wrote: > > I confronted the mechanic that replaced the DOT 4 fluid w silicone based DOT > 5 and he was clueless about it. > He said "really? I only get dot 3 and 5 I can't find any DOT 4." Then I > asked him to see what he used hoping that maybe he was using DOT 5.1 > (synthetic but not silicone based) and he showed me the bottle. > Unfortunately it was DOT 5 w SILICONE spelled out on the front if the > bottle. > Then he turned it and read "Not to be used w DOT 3 or 4" dahhhhh. > Then he added "Did you have any problem?" > Answer : "not yet..." > Machanic: "It should be fine." > > The guy just lost all of my respect that fast. > I'm planning to flush the system a couple of times w DOT 4 and see what > happens (after all the DOT 5 was in only for about 5-6 months). > > Thx for the info guys. > > > Original Email: > > I believe that my last mechanic when flushing the brakes used DOT 5 > Fluid. > First of all, does anyone know if there are 2 types of DOT 5 one > silicone the other NON-silicone based? > From a brief search on the Internet it seems that as long as DOT 5 > silicone based was not mixed w DOT 4 or 3 it's ok. > Unfortunately, it seems that just flushing the brakes is not enough. > Anyone has any ideas comments? > How can I check what kind of DOT fluid I have in my system? > If it is DOT 5 silicone based what do you suggest to do? > Just flush it a couple of times w DOT 4? > > Thx in advance. > > Stefano > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 15:43:14 -0600 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] DOT 5 Brake Fluid Saga Continues... Stafano wrote: > >I confronted the mechanic that replaced the DOT 4 fluid w silicone based DOT >5 and he was clueless about it. >He said "really? I only get dot 3 and 5 I can't find any DOT 4." Then I >asked him to see what he used hoping that maybe he was using DOT 5.1 >(synthetic but not silicone based) and he showed me the bottle. >Unfortunately it was DOT 5 w SILICONE spelled out on the front if the >bottle. >Then he turned it and read "Not to be used w DOT 3 or 4" dahhhhh. >Then he added "Did you have any problem?" >Answer : "not yet..." >Machanic: "It should be fine." > Gotta wonder how many other people have been lucky enough to have this guy put DOT 5 into their brake systems. (yes, sarcasm) Clarence West Bend, WI ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:51:12 -0500 From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Euro S50B30 (286HP) engine for sale - Was: 6 Throttle We have 2 in the shop for sale, complete from LHD cars so you don't have to convert... 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:58:01 -0000 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re:E36 taillights Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Also, I've had ongoing problems with the taillight circuit in my car. Near as I can tell, the issue is with the metal contact plate on the back of the taillight housing that the bulb holders make contact with. They seem to be corroding, with one side actually having a hole through it. This is not rust; more like it's been burned through. Is it possible to replace just this plate? The dealer says no." The dealer is right, unfortunately, but you might be able to salvage things. I had exactly this problem, with one of the bulb holder's contacts having a hole burned right through it. I bought a new bulb holder, bent the lamp unit metal plate towards the contact as best I could, and greased it. No problems since. Don't really know why it happened only to the left-hand taillight - all the other lamps in that cluster, including all of those in the right-hand cluster, were fine with no signs of corrosion or inhibited electrical contact. Andy T ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6091 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
