[uucdigest] Thursday, February 27 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6156
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:31:45 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Brett says > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! > "He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" I was thinking the same thing....he should have let one of us drive it for him... ;-) Later, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:02:13 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Brett, Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor pulls .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which pulls about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and 450 ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 and can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance vehicle. Brian Daley - -------Original Message------- From: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! "He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" >From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:23:03 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta I thought about getting one of those as my tow vehicle but it was only rated at 5000lbs towing and couldn't get a crew cab nixed that idea. Bummer, could have been fun. Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Daley Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Brett, Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor pulls .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which pulls about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and 450 ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 and can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance vehicle. Brian Daley - -------Original Message------- From: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! "He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" >From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:39:21 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Actually, The Harly Davidson version which comes in a crew cab, has the same motor, with a larger supercharger pulley I believe for lower boost. I have thought about keeping my eyes open for a decent used one in a few years, then sell all of the stupid harley shit to some other idiot for their F150, putting a smaller pulley on it and there you go, a 4 dr lightning. Mike Not a fan of trucks, but have had many many F150 for company trucks, they are damn near bullit proof and have also been mightly impressed with the Lightning, nothign like 450lbs of torque and it does handle!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > I thought about getting one of those as my tow vehicle but it was only rated > at 5000lbs towing and couldn't get a crew cab nixed that idea. Bummer, > could have been fun. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Daley > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > Brett, > > Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular > gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor pulls > .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which pulls > about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and 450 > ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a > road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 and > can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance vehicle. > > Brian Daley > > -------Original Message------- > From: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! > > "He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" > > >From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:26:17 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta The "Harley" tows 500 lbs less than the Lightening. Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mike Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Actually, The Harly Davidson version which comes in a crew cab, has the same motor, with a larger supercharger pulley I believe for lower boost. I have thought about keeping my eyes open for a decent used one in a few years, then sell all of the stupid harley shit to some other idiot for their F150, putting a smaller pulley on it and there you go, a 4 dr lightning. Mike Not a fan of trucks, but have had many many F150 for company trucks, they are damn near bullit proof and have also been mightly impressed with the Lightning, nothign like 450lbs of torque and it does handle!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > I thought about getting one of those as my tow vehicle but it was only rated > at 5000lbs towing and couldn't get a crew cab nixed that idea. Bummer, > could have been fun. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Daley > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > Brett, > > Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular > gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor pulls > .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which pulls > about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and 450 > ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a > road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 and > can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance vehicle. > > Brian Daley > > -------Original Message------- > From: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! > > "He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" > > >From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:42:29 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta That woudl not stop me from using it for towing, tow ratings are for lawyers. Have towed 9400lbs with a long bed F150 with the 4.6L auto, no problems at all. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > The "Harley" tows 500 lbs less than the Lightening. > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mike > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > Actually, > > The Harly Davidson version which comes in a crew cab, has the same motor, > with a larger supercharger pulley I believe for lower boost. > > I have thought about keeping my eyes open for a decent used one in a few > years, then sell all of the stupid harley shit to some other idiot for their > F150, putting a smaller pulley on it and there you go, a 4 dr lightning. > > Mike > > Not a fan of trucks, but have had many many F150 for company trucks, they > are damn near bullit proof and have also been mightly impressed with the > Lightning, nothign like 450lbs of torque and it does handle!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:23 PM > Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > > I thought about getting one of those as my tow vehicle but it was only > rated > > at 5000lbs towing and couldn't get a crew cab nixed that idea. Bummer, > > could have been fun. > > > > Marco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Daley > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:02 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > > > > Brett, > > > > Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular > > gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor > pulls > > .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which > pulls > > about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and > 450 > > ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a > > road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 and > > can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance > vehicle. > > > > Brian Daley > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > > > > > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! > > > > "He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" > > > > >From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:12:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta I would tend to agree that tow ratings are low. However, we loaned our truck and open trailer (mistake #1) to a friend to tow his late 60s Chrysler New Yorker. Coming down a long hill the trailer started to step out and when he moved to correct the entire ensemble performed a 180, at which point the tie downs broke, the New Yorker separated from the trailer, and the truck and trailer came to a halt looking at oncoming traffic. We believe that the driver, not an experienced tower (mistake #2), was going too fast (mistake #3). Having said that, I believe an experienced tower would not have pushed any limits with an overloaded trailer. An experienced tower that had pushed the limit and felt the trailer coming around would have utilized the brake actuator. Rolling through Kansas I wouldn't mind towing a 9500 lb load with our C1500 Silverado. Going over the grapevine here in So Cal, I would be doing 35 with the big rigs. Fortunately, nobody was hurt. Jason - - For sale: Fully repaired open trailer. - --- mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That woudl not stop me from using it for towing, tow > ratings are for > lawyers. > > Have towed 9400lbs with a long bed F150 with the > 4.6L auto, no problems at > all. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:26 PM > Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go > to Road Atlanta > > > > The "Harley" tows 500 lbs less than the > Lightening. > > Marco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of mike > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:39 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go > to Road Atlanta > > > > > > Actually, > > > > The Harly Davidson version which comes in a crew > cab, has the same motor, > > with a larger supercharger pulley I believe for > lower boost. > > > > I have thought about keeping my eyes open for a > decent used one in a few > > years, then sell all of the stupid harley shit to > some other idiot for > their > > F150, putting a smaller pulley on it and there you > go, a 4 dr lightning. > > > > Mike > > > > Not a fan of trucks, but have had many many F150 > for company trucks, they > > are damn near bullit proof and have also been > mightly impressed with the > > Lightning, nothign like 450lbs of torque and it > does handle!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:23 PM > > Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go > to Road Atlanta > > > > > > > I thought about getting one of those as my tow > vehicle but it was only > > rated > > > at 5000lbs towing and couldn't get a crew cab > nixed that idea. Bummer, > > > could have been fun. > > > > > > Marco > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Brian Daley > > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:02 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you > go to Road Atlanta > > > > > > > > > Brett, > > > > > > Most of those who posted on that thread own > Lightnings. The particular > > > gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which > off the showroom floor > > pulls > > > .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad > next to an '02 M3 which > > pulls > > > about .90. Throw in the facts that the > Lightning also makes 380 hp and > > 450 > > > ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of > embarrassing a lot of cars on a > > > road course. Considering it stickers for about > $14K less than the M3 > and > > > can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there > _is_ a performance > > vehicle. > > > > > > Brian Daley > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: KMS - Brett Anderson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go > to Road Atlanta > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, > on that board! > > > > > > "He should let one of us drive it for them, > huh?" > > > > > > >From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's > a performance vehicle! > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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