[uucdigest] Friday, February 28 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6157
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] re: wheel alignment [uuc] Re: Road A [uuc] Lightnings Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta [uuc] <FS> stock E28 M5 wheels Re: [uuc] Custom Chip Programming Re: [uuc] Custom Chip Programming [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland Re: [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:07:54 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: wheel alignment At 12:25 PM -0800 2/27/03, jkerouac wrote: > Btw, I also pay them $50. each to mount and balance a tire. At >the >occasional 140mph+ that Jack revs himself up to, their >meticulous attitude >?gives me pefectly wiggle, wobble, shimmy free >tires. Maybe a Wheel Works or >Pep Boys could get it right most of >the time but I'm not going to risk my life >on it. My front wheels are balanced on the car. It's been far better than any Hunter has even done for me. My steering wheel was absolutely rock solid on my trip from DC to Keystone CO last summer. So noticeably accurate that when I need needed a valve stem replaced on one of my tires in Ohio on the way home, I felt a slight shimmy from the wheel being remounted on the hub in a different position. Of course once I hit a pot hole, any balance goes out the window. - -- ...steven MINI Links http://www.happytogether.com/minilinks/ 318ti Registry http://www.happytogether.com/318ti/registry/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:05:43 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Road A At 3:09 PM -0500 2/27/03, James Clay wrote: >Seriously gang - wrecks do happen but you can avoid them. Bring the right >attitude, listen to your instructor 100% AND DO WHAT THEY SAY. Cars that >wreck in schools are usually disobeying some driving fundamentals (such as >working up to limits slowly, doing an odd panic move, etc). And trying to defy the laws of physics. >BTW, this does help on the street also. You will definitely be a better >street driver. It has sure helped me driving in the snow this year. Just tonight I applied brakes, started skidding, relaxed off the brakes to regain steering control, looked where I wanted to be. Gently got back on course. No panic at all. Looking forward to VIR. This winter in the DC area has gone on long enough. Oh, my number one goal for every driving school is to drive the car home. I need to get to work with it on Monday. Last event in pouring rain I had a ball. It's not often I get to pass E46 M3s. :) - -- ...steven 1996 328ti MINI Links http://www.happytogether.com/minilinks/ 318ti Registry http://www.happytogether.com/318ti/registry/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Simeon P. Mackrides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Lightnings - --0-592237447-1046403682=:57532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gentlemen, I have had experiences with Lightnings both on the highways and one in particular during last year's One Lap. The One Lap vehicle was very capable indeed, having been worked to over 500 hp. In the hands of a capable driver it can be formidable in competition. On the highway, I had to work fairly hard to best a stock Lightning, going beyond 140 to get him to realize my car wasn't the typical old man's ride. A Lightning may not be my cup of tea as a performance vehicle, probably because I don't think of F-Series pick-up trucks as performance vehicles, but I have developed some respect for them. Regards, Simeon Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:02:13 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Brett, Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor pulls .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which pulls about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and 450 ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 and can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance vehicle. Brian Daley - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more - --0-592237447-1046403682=:57532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P>Gentlemen,</P> <P>I have had experiences with Lightnings both on the highways and one in particular during last year's One Lap. The One Lap vehicle was very capable indeed, having been worked to over 500 hp. In the hands of a capable driver it can be formidable in competition.</P> <P>On the highway, I had to work fairly hard to best a stock Lightning, going beyond 140 to get him to realize my car wasn't the typical old man's ride. A Lightning may not be my cup of tea as a performance vehicle, probably because I don't think of <BR>F-Series pick-up trucks as performance vehicles, but I have developed some respect for them.</P> <P>Regards,</P> <P>Simeon</P> <P> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P>Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:02:13 -0500 (EST)<BR>From: Brian Daley <<A href="http://us.f136.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&YY=54305&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>><BR>Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta<BR><BR>Brett,<BR><BR>Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular <BR>gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor <BR>pulls .85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 <BR>which pulls about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also <BR>makes 380 hp and 450 ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing <BR>a lot of cars on a road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K <BR>less than the M3 and can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there <BR>_is_ a performance vehicle.<BR><BR>Brian Daley</P></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/finance/mailtagline/*http://taxes.yahoo.com/";>Yahoo! Tax Center</a> - forms, calculators, tips, and more - --0-592237447-1046403682=:57532-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:15:57 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Given equal drivers, it would be right there with most cars. At a Gingerman lapping day there was a person there with one of those F150s there and he was smokin' everyone in the newbie run group. It was a scary group as most were autoxers, I ran with the club racers (SCCA, Viper club, Porsche club) and they weren't any better (safety wise). There was at least one car being pulled out of a sand trap every other session and I had about 3-4 cars go off in front of me, yikes... Carlos (likes to go nice and slow) 91 M3 88 iS __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:26:10 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> stock E28 M5 wheels very clean set of stock wheels for E28 M5, they also happen to fit over the brakes on E34's as they're specificed as winter wheels in the ETK. http://www.skumwerks.net/pages/m5wheels.htm Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:00:17 -0800 From: Erick Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Custom Chip Programming For some more info on what Jim went through, look at the BMW digest archives, such as <http://digest.net/bmw/archive/v2/msg00419.html> Erick Baumeister BMWCCA 131280 Tracy, CA > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 01:51:28 -0500 > From: James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] Custom Chip Programming > > From: "Brad Couvillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Four figures for tuning that you can do for about 1/8 >> that cost is entirely too much. Whoever mentioned >> custom chip tuning being a waste of money must not >> have read info about this standalone system. > > No, four figures for what Jim C can do with the Bosch ECU. We've yet > to see > your ability. > > Jim Moran > '88 M6 > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Custom Chip Programming Interesting. There's a list whose archives I haven't searched through yet! There goes another 12 hours of my time. : -) Brad "Shifty" Couvillon - --- Erick Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some more info on what Jim went through, look at > the BMW digest > archives, such as > <http://digest.net/bmw/archive/v2/msg00419.html> > > > Erick Baumeister > BMWCCA 131280 > Tracy, CA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:06:27 -0600 From: Robert Phelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland Heya gang, I've just been granted an internship with the Helsinki University of Technology for this summer. I've done plenty of travelling previously, but never to a Scandinavian country. I was wondering if anyone on this list has travelled there or lives near there that could give me some advice on the country. I'm already familiar with the weather patterns and the lack of a real "night" in the summer-time, but I am completely unfamiliar with the cultural expectations and cues. Is there a BMW club there maybe? Too bad I wont have a car :) Thanks for the bandwidth guys. Robert - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:19:03 -0800 From: "steve lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland I've heard of this guy, lives sorta near there... goes by the name of Ulf Bertilsson. He's worth knowing. steve (and he's got a BMW, too.) Robert Phelan wrote: > Heya gang, > I've just been granted an internship with the Helsinki University of > Technology for this summer. I've done plenty of travelling > previously, but never to a Scandinavian country. I was wondering if > anyone on this list has travelled there or lives near there that > could give me some advice on the country. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:17:22 -0500 From: "Tom Melton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta I totally agree with Mike below. Please do not let the picture of the Lambo, or my first words hinder anyone, or prevent them from visiting a track. BMWCCA schools are much better places to learn your car, and the abilities of yourself and the car than any street I have ever found. I used to think going bat outta hell through the Georgia mountains was fun, but compared to relative safety you have at a real track, then there is no comparision. Go off a mountain, you are perhaps lucky to ever be found. Go off track, you will be found, you have corner workers and safety crews to assist. No comparision. And, as other have stated, you will become a better street driver. - -Tom >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/03 02:06PM >>> But on the other hand, if you have never been in a drivers school, DO NOT let stuff like this persuade you to not do one. I have never seen a beginner student total a car and I cannot even think of when a beginner had a wreck either. Your speeds are low and you will be nowhere near the limits of the car etc on your first weekend. 95% of all wrecks at schools happen to higher level students/instructors who have gotten to the point where they are really pushing it, run out of talent, out of balls or over drive the car. I promise you that Lambo wrecked because the guy came over the hill, panicked when he was not where he thought he should be, lifted the throttle and spun. As a beginner, you will learn so much about the car and yourself, you will have regretted not doing it the minute you had a drivers license. It is your choice to keep doing schools and reach the level where a dedicated track car might be a better choice, but for the first few weekends, a stock BMW is the perfect car and you will learn tons of important skills to apply to everyday driving. Instructs for peachtree aswell Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Melton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > Yes sir, definately consider it! I instruct for the Peachtree Chapter BMWCCA, and we had an E36 M3 hit that same wall (a little higher up the hill) and I believe it was totalled. > > With that said, Road Atlanta is still a great track! Mistakes happen, sometimes with wall contact, sometimes not. But nothing beats the rush of a race track. > > -Tom > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/03 10:58AM >>> > > Just had a friend send this to me. This is the difference between an amateur track with lots of runoff and an FIA spec track with concrete barriers all around. > > Ouch! Every time I get the urge, I see one of these: > > http://www.f150online.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107562 > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6157 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
