[uucdigest]          Monday, March 10 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6200



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] RE: F1 <no spoiler>
       Re: [uuc] RE: F1 <SPOILERS>
       Re: [uuc] <misc> Headlight protective film -- custom cut
       Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain
       Re: [uuc] Re: Portable  air tanks
       Re: [uuc] E36: WTB space saver spare
       Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain
       [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series
       RE: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series
       [uuc] 1995 540i - Auto Tranny issues
       Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain
       [uuc] Problems with 97 318i
       [uuc] F1 <no spoiler>
       [uuc] E32, E38 7 Series Longevity?
       [uuc] I knew it!

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:41:15 -0800
From: russelc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: F1 <no spoiler>

Mark,
I'm really sorry.  I was in a great hurry and gave away second.  I really 
meant not to give any info away, but alas, I did to make a point on how bad 
I think the rules are.  I'm really sorry, but, I didn't give the whole 
thing away  :-)

Feelin pretty low right now, but now I'll get lots of hate mail from the 
list, as I guess I have it coming,

RussC



> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:11:57 -0800
> From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: F1 <no spoiler>
>
> ARGH!!! RUSS!
>
> What part of "no spoiler" in the subject line did you not think applies 
to
> mentioning where Kimi finished?!
>
> ARGH!!!
>
> - - Mark, hasn't watched the race on TiVo yet
>
> russelc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > But, I agree with Jacques Villeneuvne, the new rules diminish the
> > importance of qualifing.  Anyone can run a light fuel load and qualify
> > high.  Or, as the back markers did, not qualify and run a different 
fuel
> > strategy.  Kimi came in an refueled on the installation lap, giving up
> > track position and started from the pit lane, and, gee, came in second.
> > Your going to see this alot with the new qualifing rules, which take 
the
> > excitiment out of "searching for that exqusite lap" as quoted by David
> > Hobbs and Steve Matchet.
> >
> > RussC

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Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 22:52:13 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: F1 <SPOILERS>

russelc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm really sorry.  I was in a great hurry and gave away second.  I really
> meant not to give any info away, but alas, I did to make a point on how bad
> I think the rules are.  I'm really sorry, but, I didn't give the whole
> thing away  :-)

Well, it wasn't a complete loss, as you were wrong.  Kimi was 3rd, behind DC
and JPM.  :)

> Feelin pretty low right now, but now I'll get lots of hate mail from the
> list, as I guess I have it coming,

Naw, mistakes happen.

It's not like you gave away the series championship or something.  :)

- - Mark
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 06:00:03 -0600
From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <misc> Headlight protective film -- custom cut

Got mine from Bavarian.
                 Ben White/Ocean Springs, MS

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:04:17 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain

Should be 50 mA or less, per Brett.
Gary Derian

> 
> If I hook up a multi-meter between the negative battery cable and the 
> negative terminal, how much drain should I be seeing?   If I'm reading 
> my multi-meter correctly it reads .3 A or 300mA.  Is this a lot?

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:00:31 -0500
From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Portable  air tanks

One final thought on 12v compressors. Try the "Truck Air". It will inflate several 
pounds per 
minute. I've used it a long time with no problems. The cheap 12v compressors are 
worthless.

Dave Kelley
98 M3/4

> Thanks to all who answered my question.  Plenty of food for thought.  Think
> since we have the room we will try the tank. Have a 12 v. compressor but
> don't like the fact that it takes long to pump up the tires.
> 
> Barb
> '90 M3
> '88 M5
> '02 Suburban
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:06:56 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E36: WTB space saver spare

The only E36 to come with a "space saver" spare was the 318ti, and the non M
Z3.  These cars had special ABS/ASC programming to recognize the smaller
diameter of the spare.

Your 328 does not have this programming, so the ASC will shut down if you
drive with the spare. Also, in the off chance that you have an LSD (unlikely),
running the spare on the rear for any period of time will kill the diff.

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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anyone have one of these for sale that has never been or only slightly used?
>   I think they came with E36 318 cars.  Please email me offline.
> Scott
> 1998 328i sedan

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:10:29 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain

Maximum expected draw on an E30 is about 20mA.  50mA is what BMW deems maximum
acceptable, but that's far too much for an E30.

When you're checking draw, you must NOT allow the power to the vehicle to be
interuppted when hooking up your equipment.  What that means is you must run
your DVOM in series with the negative cable, then disconnect the negative
cable.
Failing to do this will allow any "sticking" electronic components to
de-energize and release, giving you a false reading.


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KMS
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> If I hook up a multi-meter between the negative battery cable and the
> negative terminal, how much drain should I be seeing?   If I'm reading
> my multi-meter correctly it reads .3 A or 300mA.  Is this a lot?
>
> The fact that this started happening after I completely drained the
> batter, makes me suspect the battery as the culprit, but if I unhook it
> completely the battery holds its charge.  Thoughts?

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:50:58 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series

  My son's '92 Sentra SE-R totalled this weekend by an SUV that plowed into him while 
he was stopped.  I'm looking to replace car with older 3 series so he can be 
introduced to joys of BMW ownership.  

  Of the older 3 series, which are the most trouble-free? What should I be looking for 
-- and what might I be able to find -- in the $5-10,000 range.

  Advice/suggestions/leads much appreciated.  TIA.

Neil Simon
Wash, DC
99 M Coupe

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:17:04 -0500
From: Peter Zidlicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series

E30 is probably the most trouble free but they're older so more things are
likely to go.  So getting a solid car with up to date maintenance is key.

How old is your son? Can he drive a stick?

You should be able to get a pristine E30 for 5-6k ... given the fact that
they're all at least 10 yrs old, a visual inspection will tell you quite a
bit about the condition of the car as well as modifications, tactful vs.
tasteless.

Peter

'90 325ic
'88 M3

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series


  My son's '92 Sentra SE-R totalled this weekend by an SUV that plowed into
him while he was stopped.  I'm looking to replace car with older 3 series so
he can be introduced to joys of BMW ownership.  

  Of the older 3 series, which are the most trouble-free? What should I be
looking for -- and what might I be able to find -- in the $5-10,000 range.

  Advice/suggestions/leads much appreciated.  TIA.

Neil Simon
Wash, DC
99 M Coupe

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:29:07 -0800 (PST)
From: David Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 1995 540i - Auto Tranny issues

Quick question for ya'll:

While doing a little spirited driving I notice
that if I have the selector in "S4" (higher rev
pts), there's a shift hesitation between 3rd and
4th.  During that time the engine revs much
higher than what it's doing as I'm driving, then
(approx 1.5 to 2 seconds), it "finds" 4th.

Anyone?

Thanks,
David Moore
1995 540ia

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:44:55 -0800
From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain

Thanks Gary and Brett,

I'll try to get another reading.

- -Kurt


KMS - Brett Anderson wrote:

>Maximum expected draw on an E30 is about 20mA.  50mA is what BMW deems maximum
>acceptable, but that's far too much for an E30.
>
>When you're checking draw, you must NOT allow the power to the vehicle to be
>interuppted when hooking up your equipment.  What that means is you must run
>your DVOM in series with the negative cable, then disconnect the negative
>cable.
>Failing to do this will allow any "sticking" electronic components to
>de-energize and release, giving you a false reading.
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
>BMW Special Tool Rentals
>Pay per incident tech support
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Brett Anderson
>KMS
>(440) 338 1650
>www.koalamotorsport.com
>
>  
>

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:47:50 -0500
From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Problems with 97 318i

I noticed that my 97 318i has had a rough idle lately.  Over that past few
days I also noticed a slight hesitation under acceleration that seems to be
getting worse.  This morning I had a very hard time getting that car
started.  Any ideas what the problem could be?  TIA

Larry

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:59:14 -0500
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] F1 <no spoiler>

I got to watch the replay aired last night (made sure I watched after seeing Ben Keyes 
comments that it was the most exciting F1 race he had seen in three years in an email 
to me) and lots of things are different this year for the better overall.  I like most 
of the changes and got bored last year watching the Michael parade (no disrespect to 
Michael, a great driver and a great car).  I would imagine it will be more chaotic the 
first few races and it will settle down some as the season goes on and people gain 
some experience under the new rules.

One thing hasn't changed (and I wish it would).  Rick DeBruhl.  He is the worst part 
about watching it on SpeedVision.

Later,

Rich - will keep the rest of my F1 comments to myself to avoid any spoilers...

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:59:54 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] E32, E38 7 Series Longevity?

Hi group, my friend who was originally considering (and really wants) an 8
series car has finally figured out that he really also needs a useable back
seat.  He has asked if he could expect such a car to last through 200K
miles (the current mileage on his Jaguar XJ6).  I've already warned him
about the Nikasil block issue and the electronics on the early 750s.

Please let me know if you have a high mileage E32 or E38 7 series and what
kind of experiences you've had with repairs and replacements.  Any advice
on maintenance issues would be appreciated too.

TIA,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:14:18 -0500
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] I knew it!

Ok, so I do it, and I presume nearly all of you do it too....

vty,

- --Dennis
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Car Buffs' Brains Recognize Cars as They Do Faces

By Merritt McKinney

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Many automobile buffs love their cars so much
that they give them names. Now, new research shows that car lovers use the
same part of the brain to identify cars that they use when recognizing
faces.


The findings, which appear in the journal Nature Neuroscience, add to
previous studies showing that other avid hobbyists, including bird watchers
and dog-show judges, identify the objects of their affection "holistically"
rather than by first recognizing individual features.


By studying how experts learn this ability, it may be possible to develop
ways to help people who have problems with recognizing faces, such as
children with autism, the study's lead author said.


In an interview with Reuters Health, Dr. Tim Curran explained that "when we
recognize faces, we do so by perceiving all the parts of the face
simultaneously." For example, Curran, who is at the University of Colorado
at Boulder, said that when people look at a photo of Bill Clinton, they
recognize him immediately without first looking at his nose, lips and other
features.


"You recognize his face holistically," Curran said.


When we look at other objects, though, we tend to recognize them in a "more
piecemeal fashion," Curran said.


A particular section of the brain is hard-wired to recognize faces at a
glance, and many experts have believed that this ability is something we are
born with, not something that we learn, Curran said. But previous
experiments with bird watchers and car aficionados showed that these experts
can recognize birds and cars holistically and that this ability can be
learned, the Colorado researcher said.


Now, Curran and his colleagues report that the ability to holistically
identify objects uses the same brain circuitry as the ability to recognize
faces.


The study included 20 men who were car experts and 20 men who were car
novices. Volunteers looked at a series of photos that alternated between
cars and faces. They were asked to compare each car with the one that they
had seen before.


The researchers modified the top halves of the photos and asked participants
to ignore the top parts in order to tell if they were viewing the faces and
cars holistically, rather than piece by piece.


As expected, car experts viewed cars holistically without any trouble. But
they ran into trouble when identifying faces holistically.


The researchers found that car experts showed differences in a particular
brain wave that is linked to face recognition. This observation--and the
fact that the volunteers had trouble recognizing faces
holistically--suggests that the experts use the same brain circuitry to
identify cars as they do to identify faces, according to the researchers.


In contrast, car novices had no problems recognizing faces holistically.


The research suggests that rather than being an innate skill, holistic
recognition could be "a product of experience," Curran said. Future
research, he said, will focus on understanding how the ability to view faces
holistically develops.


It is uncertain, Curran said, whether it is just the frequency of exposure
to images that leads to these changes or whether it is a more active
learning process.


Building on the findings, some researchers are in the very early stages of
developing video games that give children with autism, who often have a very
hard time identifying faces, a lot of practice in doing so.


SOURCE: Nature Neuroscience 2003;10.1038/nn1029.

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