[uucdigest]          Monday, March 10 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6202



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing?
       [uuc] Lemon Check
       [uuc] 95 M3 for sale $12,975 or best offer by 3/15/2003
       [uuc] re: Crankshaft Position Sensor
       Re: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series
       [uuc] Re:  Buying older 3 series
       [uuc] <E28> K&N Oil and Fouling the Air Meter
       [uuc] RE: <E28> K&N Oil and Fouling the Air Meter
       Re: [uuc] <E28> K&N Oil and Fouling the Air Meter
       [uuc] Re:  [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing?
       [uuc] Re:  cam position sensor on 1.9L

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:35:33 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing?

Clutch kit should cost $229.  Labour should be between 6 and 8 hours.

Additional work that should be done at the same time consists of engine rear
main seal, trans input, output and selector shaft seals and guibo.  Perhaps
shifter bushings too.

Seals and guibo would add about $125 in parts and 1.5 hours.

Finally, if your flywheel is bad, add about $400.


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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Olivia Simantob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Does anyone know how much it should cost to replace the clutch in a '93
> 325ic?  My clutch has started slipping a little and the shop I have
> been taking it to in San Francisco estimated it would be $1-2K,
> depending on whether anything else has been damaged by the wear on the
> clutch.  Does this seem reasonable?  Is it normal to need to replace
> the clutch at only 65K miles on a car that has not been driven on a
> more than an average number of hills?  The clutch on my car has also
> been extremely stiff since I got it four years ago.  Any guesses as to
> whether replacing the clutch will actually "fix" this?

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:51:22 -0600
From: "Andrew Harkonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Lemon Check

Hello Group,

Does any one have a Carfax account that would be willing to run a VIN for
me?
WBAHD1319NBF13003

Thank you very much in advance for the help.  Please contact me off list.

Andrew Harkonen
St. Louis CCA

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:06:00 -0600
From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 95 M3 for sale $12,975 or best offer by 3/15/2003

95 M3 coupe.  Red with black leather sport seats, fold down rear seat,
recent tires,  upgraded to newer M3 10 spoke alloys, recent brake pads and
rotors, Shocks upgraded to Bilstein.  dual air bags, ABS brakes, Automanual
5 speed,  (from memory; 0-60 is about 6.5 vs. 5.8 for the full manual 5
speed) Front airdam has 3M stone guard film (and is nearly perfect as a
result), Factory rear spoiler, sunroof. Paint and interior are both in
excellent condition.   Stock 240 HP, no modifications.  A couple of small
dings on the roof like something fell on it in the garage.  driver's seat
outer bolster is Much nicer than usual; near perfect, some light surface
wrinkles only.  Cold Air Conditioning.  This car was purchased as a BMW
Certified pre-owned vehicle in 1999 with a 100,000 mile warranty,  I am
selling it with a 3 month Power train warranty from Eagle Warranty
corporation.

 I am letting my shop space go and have the M3, a nice  original, rust free
82 633CSI I had begun a restoration on a year and a half ago, a Very nice 87
528E (Black Tan), that I redid for my girlfriend two years ago, and a 91 5
speed 525I if anyone if interested.---   Pics available.

BMW bikes --All direct from BMW of North America Financial. All miles are
documented

2002 K1200RS 7,400 miles black  Factory Warranty.  $12,500/offer  ABS
brakes, no bags, heated grips,   some Light scratches.

2001 BMW K1200RS Mandarin/Graphite with 26K, still under factory warranty,
$10.800 ABS brakes, no bags, heated grips,

99 BMW R1100S 1,094 miles  New battery  As new, a few garage scratches on
the windshield  $10,500 ABS Brakes, no bags, heated grips

96 BMW R1100RT 25K Glacier green with all bags.(side cases and top case, ABS
brakes, eclectically adjustable windshield, heated grips.

Brian Collins
Dallas, TX

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:07:24 -0800
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re: Crankshaft Position Sensor

re: Crankshaft Position Sensor

      There was a recall on the Crankshaft Position Sensor on the OBDII
E36.
      This defective sensor should be replaced for free at a dealer, I 
believe regardless of the age or miles on the car.
There might also be an ECU remap to accompany it, as there was one for 
the //M3.  The remap did improve driveability bit so its worth having done.
      Any dealer service guys on the list who could provide BMW's exact 
age / mileage policy on this?

'jk

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:17:04 +0100 (CET)
From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Of the older 3 series, which are the most trouble-free? What should
> I be looking for -- and what might I be able to find -- in the
> $5-10,000 range.

If you decide for an E36 3-series, try to avoid those built before
Fall 1993. It took BMW three years to debug the model.

 -John
 '96 318is

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:16:36 -0800
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:  Buying older 3 series

Neil, the E30 3 series cars are fairly durable.  If your son is responsible
enough to handle a car with a little power, an '89 or '90 325is, or a '91
325i Sport Package (same thing) would be a nice sporty choice.   The '90s
and '91s have a driver's side air bag.  If you don't want to trust him with
that much power, a '90 or '91 318is has similar handling (a little better,
actually) and will also get better fuel economy.  Both years have the
driver's side air bag.  All of these have ABS brakes.

Some of the early E36 cars (1992 through 1995) are fun and fall within your
budget range, but from what I've read here and in the Roundel, they have
more maintenance issues than the E30.

HTH.  BTW, how is the play writing business?

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
1990 325i

>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:50:58 -0500
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [uuc] Re: Buying older 3 series
>
>  My son's '92 Sentra SE-R totalled this weekend by an SUV that plowed into
him while he was stopped.  >I'm looking to replace car with older 3 series
so he can be introduced to joys of BMW ownership.
>
>  Of the older 3 series, which are the most trouble-free? What should I be
looking for -- and what might I >be able to find -- in the $5-10,000 range.
>
>  Advice/suggestions/leads much appreciated.  TIA.
>
>Neil Simon
>Wash, DC
>99 M Coupe

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:31:13 -0500
From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E28> K&N Oil and Fouling the Air Meter

Hi All,

While I was speaking to my mechanic friend, he told me that I should be very
careful when I clean and re-oil my K&N filter.  He told me that I should
wait at least 1 day before installing it after I oil it, since the red oil
can foul the air meter unit before the bellows on my 85 535i with the M30
Engine.  He said it can cause a lot of problems

Anyone ever experience this or have any more background on it?

Cheers
Ron J
85 535i
73 911s 2.7

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:42:25 -0800
From: russelc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: <E28> K&N Oil and Fouling the Air Meter

While it can foul the temp sensor, the AFM electronics seem pretty well 
insulated from the oil in the airflow.  The oil can get into the spring 
mechanism, but that may just lubricate the mechanicals.

RussC

On Monday, March 10, 2003 3:31 PM, Ron J [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> While I was speaking to my mechanic friend, he told me that I should be 
very
> careful when I clean and re-oil my K&N filter.  He told me that I should
> wait at least 1 day before installing it after I oil it, since the red 
oil
> can foul the air meter unit before the bellows on my 85 535i with the M30
> Engine.  He said it can cause a lot of problems
>
> Anyone ever experience this or have any more background on it?
>
> Cheers
> Ron J
> 85 535i
> 73 911s 2.7

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:49:20 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> K&N Oil and Fouling the Air Meter

Too much oil could cause a problem in your car, but the real problem is cars
with a mass air meter, rather than an air flow meter.

Anything with a hotwire system can be severely damaged by excess oil

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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> While I was speaking to my mechanic friend, he told me that I should be very
> careful when I clean and re-oil my K&N filter.  He told me that I should
> wait at least 1 day before installing it after I oil it, since the red oil
> can foul the air meter unit before the bellows on my 85 535i with the M30
> Engine.  He said it can cause a lot of problems
> Anyone ever experience this or have any more background on it?

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:50:46 -0800
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:  [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing?

Hi Olivia, one way to estimate the correct cost is to figure out the parts
price, then add labor and mark up the parts cost.

Bavarian Autosport (I'm not recommending them, just using their web site as
a convient source) lists 2 kinds of replacement clutches for your car:

Bav Auto complete replacement clutch kit = $234.95.
Sachs Power Clutch complete kit (handles 25% more power, not that you need
this) = $429.95.

Let's assume you don't need to handle 25% more power.  I don't know how much
your shop marks up the parts, but lets assume 25%, bringing the parts cost
to about $300, rounded up to include a few $$$ for the brake fluid that
they'll have to bleed through the clutch hydraulic line.

Assuming no surprises or extra work, figure 6 to 8 hours of labor.  They
have to drop the exhaust system and drive shaft and then remove the
transmission before they even see the clutch.  Assuming high at 8 hours at a
labor rate of $80, that's $640.  (Bill Arnold in San Rafael charges $80 per
hour; Bavarian Professionals in Berkeley charges $90 per, but gives BMW Car
Club members a 10% discount on the labor.)  So, $1000 is not out of line.

What might drive up the price?

Flex disc (rubber donut between the transmission and drive shaft
Drive shaft center support bearing
Transmission rear seal
Shifter selector shaft seal
Shifter bushings and bearings
Shift detent cover
Transmission mount

Finally, the surface of your flywheel could need resurfacing, or if worn too
far, could need replacing.  If they had to do ALL of those things, I suppose
they could be north of $1500.

As to why the clutch needs replacing, it is usually due to excessive clutch
slippage.  If not due to your driving, perhaps it was due to the driving of
the previous owner.  And the stiffness can sometimes be due to the clutch
breaking (not  just a wear issue), but it can be from other things too.
After all of the above work is done, it should no longer be too stiff.

HTH,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:02:54 -0800
>From: Olivia Simantob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing?
>
>Hi Digesters,
>
>Does anyone know how much it should cost to replace the clutch in a '93
>325ic?  My clutch has started slipping a little and the shop I have
>been taking it to in San Francisco estimated it would be $1-2K,
>depending on whether anything else has been damaged by the wear on the
>clutch.  Does this seem reasonable?  Is it normal to need to replace
>the clutch at only 65K miles on a car that has not been driven on a
>more than an average number of hills?  The clutch on my car has also
>been extremely stiff since I got it four years ago.  Any guesses as to
>whether replacing the clutch will actually "fix" this?
>
>Thanks in advance for any info!
>
>Olivia
>'93 325ic

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:55:18 -0800
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:  cam position sensor on 1.9L

Lee, I believe this should be a warranty issue.  IIRC, all smog-related
components need to be warranted for at least 50K miles (sometimes more,
although I'm not clear when it is "more").  Anything that will set a check
engine light is smog-related.  Have your friend look into this before paying
for sensor replacement.

Or else I'm just completely wrong.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:14:24 -0500
>From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] cam position sensor on 1.9L
>
>Everyone,
>
>A good friend dropped off his 97 1.9 Z3 for a couple of issues.  One being
a
>CE light (anyone notice a trend here????).  He was told his car needed $300
>worth of new cam position sensor.....
>
>This sounds a little strange to me....I can imagine the purpose of such a
>sensor & even why it might trigger the CE light....but does 300 bucks for
>the replacement of this sound right????  The other thing that confuses me
is
>the fact that something like this would fail on a car with only 42k
>miles......
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lee->finding out that OBDII BMWs are apparently the reason for all the smog
>in Atlanta.....

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