[uucdigest] Tuesday, March 11 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6203
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Re: [uuc] 95 M3 for sale $12,975 or best offer by 3/15/2003 Re: [uuc] What is needed to convert an automatic M3 to a manual [uuc] <WTB> 1988 528e SF Bay Area [uuc] RE> Battery drain Re: [uuc] <E36> Doorloocks Re: [uuc] F1 <SPOILERS> Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain RE: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain Re: [uuc] <wob> Re: What is needed to convert an automatic M3 to a manual ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:59:54 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <wob> Re: What is needed to convert an automatic M3 to a manual Brian, this is basically the Brad Covullion (sp?) experience, only with M-priced parts. The parts cost will be insignificant compared to the 7 or 8 weeks needed for the conversion job. (Sorry Brad, but it was too easy to not comment.) Scott Miller, not helping any GGC BMW CCA >From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] What is needed to convert an automatic M3 to a manual > >Just doing some thinking this afternoon. I talked with a guy the other day >that had a friend that converted his automatic M3 to manual for under $1500. > >Has anyone done this, and if so, what was involved in terms of time and >money > >Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:05:50 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing? Hmmm..."San Francisco", and a "car that has not been driven on a more than an average number of hills". Maybe a trip to Kansas would change your perspective on what is "an average number of hills"? On a serious note, you mention that the clutch has been stiff since you got the car. I'm not sure if the E30 has a hydraulic clutch or not (I'm sure someone will chime in). If it's a cable-actuated clutch the cable may be binding, which could account for both the stiff pedal and the slipping clutch (if it's sticking enough to prevent the clutch from fully engaging). Brian Daley '94 325ic (sorry, it's an E36. Don't know too much about E30's) - -------Original Message------- From: Olivia Simantob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 03/10/03 04:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing? > > Hi Digesters, Does anyone know how much it should cost to replace the clutch in a '93 325ic? My clutch has started slipping a little and the shop I have been taking it to in San Francisco estimated it would be $1-2K, depending on whether anything else has been damaged by the wear on the clutch. Does this seem reasonable? Is it normal to need to replace the clutch at only 65K miles on a car that has not been driven on a more than an average number of hills? The clutch on my car has also been extremely stiff since I got it four years ago. Any guesses as to whether replacing the clutch will actually "fix" this? Thanks in advance for any info! Olivia '93 325ic > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:23:08 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing? On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Scott & Charlotte Miller wrote: > Assuming high at 8 hours at a labor rate of $80, that's $640. > (Bill Arnold in San Rafael charges $80 per hour; Bavarian > Professionals in Berkeley charges $90 per, but gives BMW Car Club > members a 10% discount on the labor.) So, $1000 is not out of > line. Schulba's rate in Belmont is $95/hour, so you have another local scary price rate to consider. > >Does anyone know how much it should cost to replace the clutch in a '93 > >325ic? My clutch has started slipping a little and the shop I have > >been taking it to in San Francisco estimated it would be $1-2K, > >depending on whether anything else has been damaged by the wear on the > >clutch. Does this seem reasonable? Is it normal to need to replace > >the clutch at only 65K miles on a car that has not been driven on a > >more than an average number of hills? The clutch on my car has also > >been extremely stiff since I got it four years ago. Any guesses as to > >whether replacing the clutch will actually "fix" this? Odd, I have the same car. My clutch was also stiff when I bought it in '96. At about 40k miles, I had the clutch replaced. The mechanic called and said he found aftermarket clutch parts in there already. Zoiks! Original owner must have been truly bad at driving it. Anyway, the new clutch will be pure bliss when you get it back. You won't believe how different it will feel. As others have said, let them replace nearby parts like seals. It's so much work to get in there, you might as well. The new clutch, driven properly, will last a very long time. You know which hills to avoid. :) - -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:27:23 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 95 M3 for sale $12,975 or best offer by 3/15/2003 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 95 M3 coupe. Automanual 5 speed Wow that is rare!!! never heard of that! Heard of 5 spd manuals or 5spd automatics, but a 5 spd automanual, way cool Mike LOL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:29:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] What is needed to convert an automatic M3 to a manual If you can do the job yourself and shop for the parts at the junkyard. Sure $1500 is not impossible. Few years ago I heard it was done in a weekend by a "driveway mechanic" (I think they rarely slept and ate, too). They had it planned out VERY carefully. They made sure they had every little nut and bolt necessary. The most common answer to that question (especially if you want a shop to do it) is to sell it and buy a manual. Mike Mike - --- Brian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just doing some thinking this afternoon. I talked > with a guy the other day > that had a friend that converted his automatic M3 to > manual for under $1500. > > Has anyone done this, and if so, what was involved > in terms of time and > money > > Brian > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Thanks, Darrel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 85 535i ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:24:56 -0800 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE> Battery drain Well, you may be right on both counts: The battery holds a charge when disconnected, but it's capacity is so reduced due to the extended discharged state that it's capacity is severely diminished. What you need to do is have the battery charged, let it sit overnight or put a load on it to drain off the "surface charge" and then have it load tested. Harvey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:44:46 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Doorloocks At 12:56 PM 3/10/03, Andrew E. Skopp wrote: >On my E36 M3 4 door, the left side rear door lock has begun to act >strangely. Half the time or so, it does not respond to the power door >lock switch on the console or via remote. The other half the time it >does. Manually lifting or depressing the knob operates the door lock >fine. Any thoughts on what the gremlin could be? Thanks in advance, Bad door lock actuator. BTDT, on both sides. About a $50 part (try Bimmerparts.com or Nick Alexander or Pacific BMW), and about an hour or so to replace. Having a Bentley helps, since it does seem to require that the window glass come out (you have to move the divider between moveable window and the fixed window). Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - with 3 out of 4 actuator replaced 1992 325is #44 A5/JP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:56:05 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] F1 <SPOILERS> Dorffer, Rich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Well, it wasn't a complete loss, as you were wrong. Kimi was 3rd, behind DC >> and JPM. :) > > JPM's comments on the post race interview were classic. I love listening to > him. No excuses, not even his tires or his strategy and said he would do it > again. He seemed pretty pissed off he wasn't one step higher on the podium. > Close but no cigar...err...champagne. His comment at the end of Day 2 Qualifying was an all-time classic. Announcer: Michael, it seems like the F2002 chassis still has some life left in it. Montoya: Humph. Tell me about it. LOL! Even my wife cracked up. - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:17:22 -0800 From: Chris Baisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain Amen to the below. It took me a lot of mucking around and head scratching to eventually determine that my interior light delay relay was "sticking" and causing similar symptoms. Unhooking the battery to but the ammeter in series released the relay, which in normal operation was not releasing. If you get nowhere with other diagnostics, worth a shot pulling this relay and seeing if your problem goes away. At 09:10 AM 3/10/2003 -0500, KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: >When you're checking draw, you must NOT allow the power to the vehicle to be >interuppted when hooking up your equipment. What that means is you must run >your DVOM in series with the negative cable, then disconnect the negative >cable. >Failing to do this will allow any "sticking" electronic components to >de-energize and release, giving you a false reading. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:38:22 -0800 From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain Kurt - After disconnecting the battery and leaving it disconnected for a couple of minutes, when I connect an ammeter between the negative terminal and cable it reads as follows: Upon connection: 400 mA After about 5 Seconds: 239 mA After about 15 Seconds: 151 mA The changes in amperage were sudden, not a gradual drop. I suspect that the initial higher drains are being used to recharge capacitors. I do not recall how long I waited to see if the drain would drop below 151 mA, but it was a while. Text books suggest that 50 mA is appropriate for a generic car, but BMWs have a lot of electronic stuff. 0.3 Amps times 48 hours equals 14.4 amp-hours. Your battery should have a capacity of at least 60 amp-hours, so a 0.3A drain for two days should not completely discharge the battery. When my battery was new, it would tolerate (only just) five weeks of non-use and still start the car. Did your battery shops perform a load test on your battery, or only just note that it accepted a charge? If you want to further test your car, you will need to start unplugging components. Brant <<<<<<Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 22:17:31 -0800 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30 325is> Battery Drain . . . . . . . If I hook up a multi-meter between the negative battery cable and the negative terminal, how much drain should I be seeing? If I'm reading my multi-meter correctly it reads .3 A or 300mA. Is this a lot? The fact that this started happening after I completely drained the batter, makes me suspect the battery as the culprit, but if I unhook it completely the battery holds its charge. Thoughts? Thanks, Kurt>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:57:32 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <wob> Re: What is needed to convert an automatic M3 to a manual Scott, you're a bastard just like every other person on the E30 group that makes fun of me. : -) Brian, I spent about $1400 in new and used parts to convert my '87 528e from an auto to a manual. Let's not go into how long it took me, because there were oogles of things that, if I had planned properly, would not have held me up. For an e36, parts will be more expensive. For an e36 M, they'd be even more expensive than that, I would guess. If you can swing a few thou for a transmission option that was offered in your model when new, then I guess you can go for it. FWIW, I spent $1400+ in parts and about 2 months in time -- between broken transmissions, clutch jobs, not getting parts on time stripped downpipe nuts, etc. I would do it again in a heartbeat (and actually have helped a fellow e28er do the hard part of the conversion, recently) and say that it was worth EVERY PENNY AND EVERY SECOND OF MY TIME. Every time I drop the clutch at 4,000 RPM, I tell myself that I woulda done it again in a heartbeat. For info and pictures on my conversion: http://www.fatdaddybmw.com/tranny Hope this helps. Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '87 528e <-- Dinan-chipped, 3.46-diffed, 5-speed conversion, Bav Auto / Bilstein Sports - --- Scott & Charlotte Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, this is basically the Brad Covullion (sp?) > experience, only with > M-priced parts. The parts cost will be > insignificant compared to the 7 or 8 > weeks needed for the conversion job. (Sorry Brad, > but it was too easy to > not comment.) > > Scott Miller, not helping any > GGC BMW CCA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6203 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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