[uucdigest]          Friday, March 14 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6220



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] <FS(maybe)> 1986/87 325 body shell or whole car
       Re: [uuc] Radio question
       [uuc] Re:iX transfer case
       [uuc] Re: <E28> Springs/Rubbing/Offset/Fender Rolling
       [uuc] Re: <e28> Need rear springs..Was Fender Rolling
       [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       [uuc] Re: E28 M5 rear fender lips (or lack thereof)
       Re: [uuc] Radio question
       [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires
       Re: [uuc] Radio question
       RE: [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires
       RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:47:05 -0600
From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <FS(maybe)> 1986/87 325 body shell or whole car

The car in question is a 4-door '86 325 auto, burgundy, very little rust
(only in the rock chipped areas). It has 236k miles, but we plan to buy
it and part it out, so mileage is not an issue. That means that nearly
everything on it will likely be for sale, except a few things that will
be kept.
The body would make a perfect candidate for a track or all out race car.

The bad news: It took a minor hit in the right front, which slightly
buckled the fender, and broke the plastic airdam off, and the windshield
is broken. No other damage to the body.
It has been sitting in storage for an unknown time but has a current
license tag, so it's prolly been sitting for less that a year.
I have to know pretty soon, as we don't know how long the car will still
be there.
It can be restored to really good shape with a couple grand.

Neil
'91 318is
'86 M535i

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:45:59 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Radio question

OK, all this chatter about radios has got me thinking. What can I do with my 
Volvo S80T6 unit? I know on the Bimmer I can just replace the head unit. But, 
some of these other marques use a big a$$ crappy head that takes up a ton of 
space. How do you do a clean install on something like that?

Thanks,

Ken

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:57:49 -0500
From: Dan Guliano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re:iX transfer case

You're absolutely correct, the $3,500 cost of the case is unreasonable. I'll
give you $500.00 for the car as it sits. Where is it anyway........

now to the issue at hand. That seems to be awfully low mileage for needing a
transfer case. My iX, with a LOT of track time, lasted until 262k miles till
we replaced the transfer case - though it was 'over' maintained.
- - We've not found any acceptable way to rebuild a case. Next best is to find
a crashed iX and liberate the case, though by this time it will have a lot
of miles as well.
- - Face it, if you want to keep the iX, spring for the case and front drive
shaft. If not, my offer still stands.


dan

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:21:30 -0500
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: <E28> Springs/Rubbing/Offset/Fender Rolling

>"Ron J" wrote:
>Thanks for the pointer on the drivers side being normal a few inches lower.
>Now I wont need springs and just need to roll the fenders.


I hope you didn't get that interpretation from what I wrote. I said 
the clearance is less on the left rear. That has nothing to do with 
ride height, as I thought I explained. Whatever. Do you even know 
what the offset of you TWS wheels is? It should be marked on them 
somewhere. Usually in mm. and following an "e" designation of some 
kind, depending on manufacturer, country of origin, etc. If you get 
much less than 20mm on the rear, you will have problems.
Good luck!

- -Phil

>
>Rob Levinson thought I was using Mille Miglia wheels, and that I should only
>go as far as 225-45-17.  I wanted to reply and say, that I am running TSW
>Blades (M parallel lookalike) 17x7.5 with a 225 45ZR 17 Dunlop SP SPORT 2000
>E.  The offset could be slightly off, however I am not considering returning
>them to the dealer, since I was aware that I was going to roll the fenders
>after I installed aftermarket springs anyway, and I advised the dealer of
>that.
>
>So based on all the information that I recieved, I dont need to change my
>springs yet, and I need to roll my fenders, or have the offset on the rear
>wheels changed at a machine shop to adjust them.. I am going to most likely
>choose to roll the fenders..
>
>Cheers
>Ron J
>85 535i
>73 911s 2.7

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:28:47 -0500
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: <e28> Need rear springs..Was Fender Rolling

>Ed MacVaugh wrote:
>The rear fender lips of my E28 M5 are definitely cut way back in
>comparison to Tammer Farid's 535 of similar vintage. Mine have factory
>paint on them, which is why I am confident that they are stock.

If it requires any repetition to drive home the point, you are 
correct, sir. Surprised some of our supposedly knowledgeable folks 
weren't aware. Oh hell, it's apparently only an old car; nothing 
anyone cares about anymore!

- -Phil Marx
  '88 535is daily driver from eBay.

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:51:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Groups,

I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
shipped to my door and will buy it.

Thanks

Kyle Sanchez

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:05:50 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: E28 M5 rear fender lips (or lack thereof)

Ed MacVaugh wrote:

> The rear fender lips of my E28 M5 are definitely cut way back in
> comparison to Tammer Farid's 535 of similar vintage. Mine have factory
> paint on them, which is why I am confident that they are stock.

I don't think they're actually cut, but just rolled (folded really) very tightly

up underneath.

mine are the same way.


Ben

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:15:42 -0600
From: "Burtsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Radio question

I'm not an electronic engineer and I don't  play one on TV, however, I did
sit next to one on an airplane.  He said that CD's are better than records
as far as signal to noise ratio are concerned but if the CD unit only
samples a waveform, say eight, times a second then it will give a poor
approximation of the actual sound.  There are some CD players (home hi-fi
stuff) that sample as much as 128 times a second and sound like you're in
the music hall.

That said, I agree with the comment that replacing one part of a stereo
system will only point out the deficiencies in other parts.  It looks like I
have a choice of starting down this slippery slope, listening only to heavy
metal, or just turning the radio off and listening to one of the most
beautiful engines in the world (as one person noted).

Burt
'98 M3

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [uuc] Radio question


> I'm not a stereo guy by anyone's imagination. I'm happy if the damn thing
> makes noise, but I gotta ask.....
>
> How does changing the head unit effect CD sound quality, when using a CD
> changer?  Be gentle, I know engines and diffs, not stereos.
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > If you do replace speakers etc and keep the stock head unit and amp, the
> > improvement is slight, as the head unit is the bottle neck in my opinion
of
> > good sound.
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:19:26 -0600
From: "dlejune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires

Anyone know if these wheels are okay for an M5?
The stock wheels on my 2000 are out of round and bent to heck...
Houston is repaving every major street... ("Pothole City")
Dana

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:35:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Radio question

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Burtsky wrote:
> I'm not an electronic engineer and I don't  play one on TV, however, I did
> sit next to one on an airplane.  He said that CD's are better than records
> as far as signal to noise ratio are concerned but if the CD unit only
> samples a waveform, say eight, times a second then it will give a poor
> approximation of the actual sound.  There are some CD players (home hi-fi
> stuff) that sample as much as 128 times a second and sound like you're in
> the music hall.

(BMW content at bottom)

Burt,

I think something must have been lost in the translation.  CDs use PCM
sampling at 44.1 kHz with 16-bit quantization.  This means CDs have 44100
samples per second to reconstruct the original musical signal, and each
sample has 16 bits of precision.  What this means is that CDs can, in
theory, completely reconstruct any signal from near DC (0 Hz) to right
below 22.05 kHz (half the sampling frequency) and the noise floor of the
system is around -93 dB dithered, which is slightly less than a 65536 to 1
ratio between loudest and softest sounds.  This spec is used by CDs
everywhere, and doesn't change, modulo implementation details.

The engineer was probably referring to an implementation detail of a CD
player usually called the oversampling ratio.  These range from 8x to 128x
(or more), and depend on many other things in the system, and so can't be
used as any indication of quality of a CD player.  For example, CD players
using multi-bit digital to analog converters typically have oversampling
ratios of 4x to 16x, while delta-sigma converters must use very high
oversampling ratios in the neighborhood of 128x to 256x.

If you want, I can explain why oversampling is used (cost and efficiency),
but this is already way OT, so I'll stop.  Email me off-list if you're
interested. 

Brett asks how a new head unit can improve a CD changer's performance.  It
can't, but if the head unit is a weak link, then it may be holding back
the CD changer.  For example, CD players can have tremendous dynamic
range, and may ask an amplifier to drive a speaker to very loud levels. 
If the amp or head unit can't drive the speaker loudly enough, it's
holding back the CD changer.   There are still more esoteric reasons.

OBMWC:  I installed a Phatnoise Phatbox in my E46 328Ci, and it's one of
the best things I've done for the car.  Up to 40 GB of MP3 files, and a
usable interface to navigate the hundreds of tracks.  It pretends to be a
CD changer, but uses the disc selection buttons for different purposes. 
It's driving the stock stereo which is good enough for me --- once you've
heard a really good home audio system, the best cars pale in comparison,
especially when you add in road noise.  The Phatbox uses a removable hard
drive cartridge. 

- --Andre

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:28:40 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires

They will generally do a fine job of keeping rubber under your car
and allowing forward motion.

However, be advised of these things:

1) Note that there is often a weight penalty with less-expensive
aftermarket wheels.  

2) Check the offset carefully.

3) Note that the E39 has a different hub size that other BMW wheels,
check that the replicas have the right bore.

4) Remember that your M5 has staggered-size wheels.  Make sure the
replicas can take your tire sizes.

5) Replica castings are generally softer than OE wheels and can
damage more easily.  

6) You will have to get a complete set, as no replica will match the
special paint on the E39 M5 wheels, and the actual spoke pattern will
be slightly different.

I am not trying to scare you off of aftermarket or replica wheels -
most are quite acceptable and Discount Tire is a reputable retailer. 
However, it's better to know what the differences from OE are ahead
of time.

- - Rob


- ---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:19:26 -0600

>Anyone know if these wheels are okay for an M5?
>The stock wheels on my 2000 are out of round and bent to heck...
>Houston is repaving every major street... ("Pothole City")
>Dana

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:36:37 -0600
From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

I've never heard of a Lincoln with a BMW powerplant.  The motor in that era
of Mark VII was the 5.0 V8 from the Mustang GT if I recall correctly. 
There was a 4 cyl turbo motor in the T-bird in the mid-late 80's - that
used the Ford 2.3 l motor that started out life in the Pinto :)

Mark Kittock
'96 328i Sport Pkg;  17"OZ,H&R Sport, X-brace,Turner Motorsport bars


>>
> Groups,
> 
> I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
> VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
> in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
> this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
> shipped to my door and will buy it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Kyle Sanchez
> 
>

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