[uucdigest]         Saturday, March 15 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6221



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       Re: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       Re: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       [uuc] '95 M3 Engine Noise
       RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
       [uuc] Fw: CD changers
       [uuc] 524TD Lincoln 
       Re: [uuc] Fw: CD changers
       [uuc] M50 Parts Anyone?
       Re: [uuc] Fw: CD changers
       Re: [uuc] Fw: CD changers
       Re: [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires  

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:48:22 -0500
From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Lincoln used the BMW 524TD engine in 85-86 I believe. Any Mark VII diesel
with be the BMW turbo diesel, so yes the crank is the EXACT same.


Mike


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC BMW LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kyle Sanchez"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?


>
> I've never heard of a Lincoln with a BMW powerplant.  The motor in that
era
> of Mark VII was the 5.0 V8 from the Mustang GT if I recall correctly.
> There was a 4 cyl turbo motor in the T-bird in the mid-late 80's - that
> used the Ford 2.3 l motor that started out life in the Pinto :)
>
> Mark Kittock
> '96 328i Sport Pkg;  17"OZ,H&R Sport, X-brace,Turner Motorsport bars
>
>
> >>
> > Groups,
> >
> > I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
> > VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
> > in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
> > this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
> > shipped to my door and will buy it.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kyle Sanchez
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:56:56 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

To the best of my knowledge, the long block is identical to the unit fitted to
the 524td.

I do know that the fan clutch is different, because we bought one from a Ford
dealer many moons ago when the BMW unit was on back order.  Didn't even come
close to working.


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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
> VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
> in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
> this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
> shipped to my door and will buy it.

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:01:12 -0600
From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Strange but true...

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/street/3545/mark.html
http://freespace.virgin.net/r.welfare/5serieshistory.html

Malcolm
'88 M5 (polar opposite of the 524td)
'98 328i

- -----Original Message-----
From: M Kittock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:37 PM
To: UUC BMW LIST; Kyle Sanchez
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?


I've never heard of a Lincoln with a BMW powerplant.  The motor in that
era
of Mark VII was the 5.0 V8 from the Mustang GT if I recall correctly. 
There was a 4 cyl turbo motor in the T-bird in the mid-late 80's - that
used the Ford 2.3 l motor that started out life in the Pinto :)

Mark Kittock
'96 328i Sport Pkg;  17"OZ,H&R Sport, X-brace,Turner Motorsport bars


>>
> Groups,
> 
> I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
> VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
> in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
> this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
> shipped to my door and will buy it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Kyle Sanchez
> 
>

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:14:52 -0600
From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Hmmmm...      I don't even recall any Ford diesels.  Guess my memory isn't
what it used to be.   :(

Mark


>
> Lincoln used the BMW 524TD engine in 85-86 I believe. Any Mark VII diesel
> with be the BMW turbo diesel, so yes the crank is the EXACT same.
> 
> 
> Mike
> 

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:37:14 -0500
From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Mark replied to Kyle..

>I've never heard of a Lincoln with a BMW powerplant.  The motor in that era
>of Mark VII was the 5.0 V8 from the Mustang GT if I recall correctly.
>There was a 4 cyl turbo motor in the T-bird in the mid-late 80's - that
>used the Ford 2.3 l motor that started out life in the Pinto :)
>
>Mark Kittock
>'96 328i Sport Pkg;  17"OZ,H&R Sport, X-brace,Turner Motorsport bars

Sorry - wrong. This was short lived reaction to the gas crisis
of the time.. Ford bought the BMW td diesel engine and dumped it into
the Lincoln.

Apparently it didn't sell too well.. sometimes people want
better than 20 second 0-20mph times.

I have heard it's a direct drop in replacement if you have
a tired td.. but prolly Brent can address that better. I
would think for $250 you could get the crank surrounded
by an entire engine at this point.

> > Groups,
> >
> > I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
> > VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
> > in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
> > this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
> > shipped to my door and will buy it.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kyle Sanchez


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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:14:47 -0800
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Sorry Mark, but Kyle is correct.  There was a turbo diesel option in the
Lincoln, and it was pretty much the same engine that BMW put in the 524td.
It was also in Vixen motorhomes.  Hey, BMW needed to sell them somewhere,
since they weren't moving a whole lot of them in U.S. BMWs.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:36:37 -0600
>From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?
>
>I've never heard of a Lincoln with a BMW powerplant.  The motor in that era
of Mark VII was the 5.0 V8 from the Mustang GT if I recall correctly.
>There was a 4 cyl turbo motor in the T-bird in the mid-late 80's - that
>used the Ford 2.3 l motor that started out life in the Pinto :)
>
>Mark Kittock
>'96 328i Sport Pkg;  17"OZ,H&R Sport, X-brace,Turner Motorsport bars
>
>>
>> Groups,
>>
>> I've heard that the crank out of a 85' Lincoln Mark
>> VII L6-146 2.4L DSL Turbo is the same as the one thats
>> in the 524td. As the Lincoln had a BMW motor in it. Is
>> this true? If so I have a lead on this crank for $250
>> shipped to my door and will buy it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kyle Sanchez

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:43:36 -0600
From: "Dave & Peg Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] '95 M3 Engine Noise

I have run a 95 M3 in driving schools since the car was new.  I now have
122,000 on the car.  Art my first session, I was advised by the other M3
owners to run the oil one quart over capacity when on the track because of
oil starvation from high G cornering.  The guys who didn't add the quart,
came in with ticking lifters before the end of the day.  I always run 5W30
synthetic.

Try taking of the belts and see if the noise goes away if you suspect the
belts or pulleys.  Don't run the engine too long with the belts off.

Sorry so late in reply - have been away.

Dave
95 M3

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:46:16 -0500
From: "Jason O'Dell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 524td Crankshaft same as 85' Lincoln Mark VII?

Yes, I have heard this on the board before and I think you are right. Same 
motor was also in that RV from the 80's. Never seen one though. Sounds like 
a good deal.

jason




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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:43:20 -0500
From: "Robert Tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Fw: CD changers

Mike, Sean..

This begs the question:

What would you recommend as a head upgrade to a '95 530i that's stock?

Remember that these cars have the amplified antenna imbedded into the rear
glass.  Is there a decent head replacement that comes with a single CD
player?  

I never really got the remote cd changer thing, unless one is on long
drives.  It's a headache to constantly pull CDs in and out of the changer.
It would seem much easier to keep a CD wallet with 20 disks or so and slip
them in or out as one pleases.  But I digress...

Rob Tobin
first time poster


original message...
 
> On the E-34, great results can be achieved by swapping the head unit,
> then
> placing a small 8-10" powered sub in the trunk,  but keeping the stock
> speakers, as they are quite good in that car.
>

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:38:00 -0500
From: "BMWBITS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 524TD Lincoln 

YES , the Lincoln DID use the 524TD motor for I think it was one year .
So did a Motorhome called the Vixen (I think ) .
..and you thought your pedal-bike was slow ??

Bill & Shirley Proud,
Tennessee..winters, Seattle..summers
Long commute in between .

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:31:13 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Fw: CD changers

CD changes were the hot setup about 15 years ago.  Now its MP3.
Gary Derian

> I never really got the remote cd changer thing, unless one is on long
> drives.  It's a headache to constantly pull CDs in and out of the changer.
> It would seem much easier to keep a CD wallet with 20 disks or so and slip
> them in or out as one pleases.  But I digress...
>
> Rob Tobin
> first time poster

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:37:06 -0700
From: Wendall Siemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] M50 Parts Anyone?

Would anyone be interested in parts out of a 92 M50 engine? Specifically
heavy duty connecting rods?

I need to get an engine out of my garage and need to decide between the core
change or selling parts. Engine had 91K miles.

Wendall

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:44:40 -0600
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Fw: CD changers

Well, there is the safety issue. Fumbling for the disc you want isn't 
the safest thing to do while you're in motion. For people with large 
disc collections I think changers are still the best option for the car. 
mp3s are fine too if you've ripped all the music in your collection, but 
not many have gone to those lengths.

Others can weigh in on replacement head units. They're all made in China 
now and I don't find any particularly desirable (other than Becker - 
which costs $$$ and seems to be Europe only). In addition, it's all 
getting multi-media oriented which is a real bad idea for the front 
seat. I'd get something from Blaupunkt or Alpine that integrates well 
with the dash; but these are getting rare.  --SC

Robert Tobin wrote:

><snip>
>I never really got the remote cd changer thing, unless one is on long
>drives.  It's a headache to constantly pull CDs in and out of the changer.
>It would seem much easier to keep a CD wallet with 20 disks or so and slip
>them in or out as one pleases.  But I digress...
>  
>

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:09:18 -0600
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Fw: CD changers

Oh yeah, maybe check out Nakamichi too. --SC

Sean Cordone wrote:
 > I'd get something from Blaupunkt or Alpine that integrates well with 
the dash; but these are getting rare.  --SC

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:19:31 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Deatherage)
Subject: Re: [uuc] Replica wheels from Discount Tires  

    I bought the 17" M5 replica set of these about 3 years ago from
Discount. At first they looked great, a work of art. After about a year
the satin finish slowly started to wear thin on each wheel, showing a
black color underneath. They are also very soft. They didn't bend, but
knick very easy. I now have a 17" set of Racing Dynamics on the car.
They appear to be holding up much better. I would not recommend the
replicas. Spend the $$ and get some OEM or quality aftermarket ones.
BTW, if anyone is interested in my replicas for track duty, let me know.
They are straight and have Kuhmo Ecsta 712 tires with 2500 miles on
them. $475..... Located in S. FL.

Regards,
Danton
'87 944 turbo
'02 325i

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