[uucdigest] Tuesday, March 25 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6243
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Re: [uuc] My comparison between Jim C, Mark D'Sylva, and Dinan chips Re: [uuc] E36 M3 Check Engine Light Re: [uuc] e36 ///M3 30K mile maint. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:29:57 -0500 From: "Ken Fry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e36--- m3 tranny in 325 Guys n Gals, Can I put a M3 (auto) tranny into 325i (auto). The m3 tranny looks little smaller? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:54:26 -0800 (PST) From: David Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E36><Euro M3> Exhaust noise All, Well, I'm stumped. I have a loud clunking in my exhaust every time I hit a bump (which in between my house and work is about every 10 ft). It sounds like it's coming from the middle of the car, i.e. the cats. I've replaced all of the exhaust mounts and it's now extremely well secured. There seems to be no way to reproduce the sound with the car still. My first guess is broken catalysts. I plan to remove the cats from the car this weekend. I really hope this isn't it...I priced cats on a 98 M3 at a UK parts place...845 pounds (1240 euro)! What else might it be? It doesn't sound or feel like suspension, and other than this noise the car is rock-solid. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Any one know of any used BMW parts places in central France? Thanks, Dave Hall __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:28:06 -0500 From: "T. Andrew Egan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e36 ///M3 30K mile maint. Group, Does someone have the knowledge or a pre-fab list of what needs to be done to a 1999 e36 ///M3 at the 30,000 mile mark? FYI: It is a 5speed and a 2door. Thanks! T. Andrew Egan '99 ///M3 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:40:00 -0800 From: Ben Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 M3 Check Engine Light Hi all, A week ago my 95 E36 M3 ran out of gas, luckily there was a gas station 50 feet from me so I pushed the car in and filled it up all the way. When i started the car, the check engine light came on and the gas gauge needle stayed in empty with the lights on. I've heard about the gas gauge problem and usually it happens when i top off the gas but it should go away after driving it for a while. Well, it's been 230 miles and the needle still stays in empty and the check engine light is still on. Is there a way for me to reset it? or do i have to turn it into the dealer? thanks in advance, Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:47:54 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] My comparison between Jim C, Mark D'Sylva, and Dinan chips Listers, To those of you that replied, thank you for replying and trying to keep me honest and scientific! : -) Below are my replies to the different subjects that were brought up. **** Seat of the pants **** I agree that one should be skeptical when doing seat-of-the-pants tests. I was skeptical when I put the JC chip in, and I was actually expecting it to be BETTER than Mark's chip. However, I did notice a slight difference below 3,000 RPM. In addition, it was more difficult for me to match revs. I at first thought this was because I wasn't pressing the pedal as hard as before, but I later realized I was incorrect. Lastly, the person that I traded ECUs with said he noticed there was more power available below 3,000 with the Mark D chip than with the JC. Two people can't be wrong, can they? : -) **** Proper Testing **** I went out and did some 5 - 60 MPH runs, as well as some 3rd gear 30 - 50 MPH runs (about 2,000 RPM - 3500) with the Jim C chip. Tomorrow I'll put the Dinan ECU back in, and around Wednesday I'll do the same tests along the same road with the Dinan chip. Then, next weekend, I'll do the Mark D chip tests. So, this will the the first set of hard facts to see which is better at the two tests. Are there any suggestions for other tests that I could do to provide more insight on which is the most flexible chip and which is best at certain RPM ranges? **** Dyno Sheets **** I am tentatively scheduling some dyno runs immediately before the head swap. This will be the weekend of April 12. I have the ECU with a Mark D chip, and I also have my previous ECU with a Dinan chip in it. I also have access to my friend's Jim C chip (which I'm using right now). So, it's not conveivable to say that I COULD do three different dyno runs, one for each chip. HOwever, I'm afraid the ECU won't have enough time to adapt between runs, so I'm still arguing with myself on whether I want to run a different chip each run or just stick with the Mark D chip for some baseline, pre-i-cam dyno charts. I'll probably just stick to the acceleration tests to compare the three chips and leave it at that. **** Custom chip for my application **** This eta chip is a chip that Mark D developed a while back. He says he has this one, as well as the M30B34 (e28 535i engine) chip. He is in the process of developing one for the later M30 in the e34. This chip is not a custom chip for my application. It's one that he developed with another eta engine. The "ita" chip that I will be helping with the testing of WILL be a custom chip. To make the testing more controlled and less dependent on the condition of my engine, I am replacing all of the major maintenance items before this first dyno run: fuel pump, fuel filter, air filter, coil, cap, rotor, plugs, and plug wires. **** I cam Eta chips, etc **** My engine is completely stock. I have a 3.46 diff, 5-speed, slightly heavier-than-stock wheels, and then the chips. Everything else is stock in regards to acceleration. These comparisons for the chips are comparing three chips that have been developed for a stock 528e. The ONLY custom chip that I will be dealing with will be Mark D's e-to-i chip -- which I'm calling the "ita chip" -- and I'll be sure to do dyno runs with that chip on my soon-to-be-i-cammed engine once the chip is good enough for final tweaks. **** FatDaddyBMW **** Smiller said: "Does anyone else find Brad's e-mail address ironic? He's neither fat nor, AFAIK, a daddy." Scott, this is the exact reason I use it. : -) I'm actually thinking of changing my domain name to www.shiftybrad.com, but of course that name will fade away once someone tops my auto-to-manual conversion time of ~1.5 - 2.5 months, depending on how you look at it! **** **** I think I've covered everything. Please reply if you think my ideas could use revising. I'm open to ideas on how to make this comparison test the most objective test as possible! Brad "Shifty" Couvillon www.fatdaddybmw.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:52:08 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: rough road = big sway bar ? Ben, your assessment of Saudi roads... >Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:38:56 -0500 >From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] Re: rough road = big sway bar ? <snip> >I'd think the Saudi's would have tons of nice flat, smooth roads. they >don't have any weather to speak of, so the pavement should stay in good >shape... is probably correct for the paved roads, but they also probably have lots of unpaved roads. Plus, after each windstorm blows sand all over the paved roads, they start to be more like the unpaved ones. Still, a bigger rear bar means more oversteer. I fail to see how increased oversteer helps on rough roads. And as you said, this would result in the suspension being less independent. Hard to figure. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:06:33 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: rough road = big sway bar ? I might suspect an odd translation from German on the ETK. That might explain it. - - Rob - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: rough road = big sway bar ? >Still, a bigger rear bar means more oversteer. I fail to see how >increased >oversteer helps on rough roads. And as you said, this would result >in the >suspension being less independent. Hard to figure. > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:12:19 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] e36 ///M3 30K mile maint. Gut It Cage Big brakes Cam Remove A/C Suspension Big Numbers Go Racing. Jason I only wish I had a spare M3 to do that with. - --- "T. Andrew Egan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Group, > > Does someone have the knowledge or a pre-fab list > of what needs to be done > to a 1999 e36 ///M3 at the 30,000 mile mark? FYI: > It is a 5speed and a > 2door. > > Thanks! > > T. Andrew Egan > '99 ///M3 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:23:28 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] My comparison between Jim C, Mark D'Sylva, and Dinan chips - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] My comparison between Jim C, Mark D'Sylva, and Dinan chips Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:47:54 -0800 (PST) >**** Proper Testing **** > >I went out and did some 5 - 60 MPH runs, as well as >some 3rd gear 30 - 50 MPH runs (about 2,000 RPM - >3500) with the Jim C chip. Tomorrow I'll put the >Dinan ECU back in, and around Wednesday I'll do the >same tests along the same road with the Dinan chip. >Then, next weekend, I'll do the Mark D chip tests. >So, this will the the first set of hard facts to see >which is better at the two tests. This part made me cringe slightly - you should have done all the tests at the same time (consecutively) to minimize variations in ambient temp, humidity, weight of fuel in tank, etc. >HOwever, I'm afraid the ECU won't have enough time to >adapt between runs... Unless you have a Motronic 1.1 (1988) car, the adaptation that may occur is almost insignificant. > I'm >actually thinking of changing my domain name to >www.shiftybrad.com, but of course that name will fade >away once someone tops my auto-to-manual conversion >time of ~1.5 - 2.5 months, depending on how you look >at it! <sigh> Brad, Brad, Brad. 14 months is the UUC Digest record. - - Rob '98 750iL/6 '94 M5, 6-speed conversion '86 e-dogg, original 5-speed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:38:47 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 M3 Check Engine Light At 10:40 AM 3/25/03, Ben Chung talked about: >I've heard about the gas gauge problem and usually it happens when i top >off the gas but it should go away after driving it for a while. Well, >it's been 230 miles and the needle still stays in empty This is usually caused by the fuel pump and/or fuel sender going bad. The fuel pump with integrated sender is located in the right side of the fuel tank, and there is a fuel sender only in the left side. With a simple ohmmeter you can determine which one is the faulty one. - - Remove the rear seat bottom, and remove the panels on either side to access the pump & sender. - - Remove the white plugs from each and check the resistance of each; they should be the same. - - If not, remove the senders and check the resistance values at the terminals: 10 ohms for empty, 250 ohms for full. (The above synopsized from my Bentley manual.) >and the check >engine light is still on. Is there a way for me to reset it? or do i >have to turn it into the dealer? You need to check and see what is causing the CE light. On a '95 M3 you can use the procedure outlined here: http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/fault.html Or find someone with a Peake Code reader, or have a local BMW mechanic read the code for you. Dealer not required. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 A5/JP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:42:51 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] e36 ///M3 30K mile maint. At 10:28 AM 3/25/03, T. Andrew Egan talked about: >Group, > > Does someone have the knowledge or a pre-fab list of what needs to be > done to a 1999 e36 ///M3 at the 30,000 mile mark? FYI: It is a 5speed > and a 2door. For a '99 M3, that's an Inspection I service (did the SI light cycle go to 15,000 miles in '99?)? What is indicated by the SI lights? If so, it's basically an oil change with a bunch of checks. To be more specific, you can look in the Service and Warranty Manual that came with the car. It contains all the required services and intervals. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 A5/JP ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6243 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
