[uucdigest] Sunday, March 30 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6260
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs [uuc] RE: Cincy repair shops Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install [uuc] Some E30 Parts on eBay Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs re: [uuc] <misc> mazda rev it up results Re: [uuc] Dear Mr. Derian, [uuc] re:<e30>sparco strut bar [uuc] Re: Cincy repair shops Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:48:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs Gruppe: Now that the weather has broken (finally) in Boston, I'm thinking of a different suspension setup for my E34 (92 535i). What's the ticket (cost is a factor) for sporting street use in an area with LOTS of potholes and frost heaves? Also, I'd like to consider changing to 17" wheels, sticking with BMW OE if possible. These would be summer use only. Idees? Anybody have a good deal on parts? Jon __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:39:41 -0500 From: "Charlie Rubenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Cincy repair shops I agree with Kathy Lyle (BTW, hi Kathy....bet you don't remember me from Bavarian Motor days) that Just BMW in Fairfax is a good bet as is the "new" Bavarian Motors on Reading Rd. near downtown. Both do quality work at reasonable rates. Its a shame that Montgomery Motorsport went out of biz (they were great). If you need telephone numbers, let me know. Charlie Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:33:02 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs I would use factory MTechnic springs, Koni shocks and M5 wheels. Also use M5 thrust arm bushings or 750i ones for a little more cushion. A front strut bar and factory camber compensating strut mounts are good upgrades. 245/45R17 tires are popular for Mustangs and have good selection. If you prefer 16 inch, a set of E38 16x8 wheels is a good fit also, use 225/55R16 tires. Note: 225/55 and 245/45 tires are the same width. 45 and lower tires are measured on wider rims so one must add 25mm (for this comparison) to 35mm (for wider tires such as 245/50 to 275/40) to compare. Gary Derian > Gruppe: > Now that the weather has broken (finally) in Boston, > I'm thinking of a different suspension setup for my > E34 (92 535i). What's the ticket (cost is a factor) > for sporting street use in an area with LOTS of > potholes and frost heaves? Also, I'd like to consider > changing to 17" wheels, sticking with BMW OE if > possible. These would be summer use only. Idees? > Anybody have a good deal on parts? > Jon > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:07:03 -0600 From: "John Bunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install Speaking of the Sparco bar, I bought one for my E30 325i cabrio, and it looks like it will fit fine between the towers, but I'm a little worried about interference with the throttle/cruise cables, which seem to be routed right through where the bar would be (not an issue in my M3). Has anyone installed one of these, and if so, how did you deal with the cables? Thanks, John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 22:18:54 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install The Sparco web site shows four part numbers for E30 bars, 3674, 3675, 3676 and 3677. The first three are aluminum and the last is the steel one most folks on this forum think of when they hear of a Sparco bar. It only is shown as fitting the M3. I am trying to find out why there are all these numbers. Racer's prices from the web site range from $96 for the steel to $275 for the most expensive of the aluminums. Ed John Bunda wrote: >Speaking of the Sparco bar, I bought one for my E30 325i cabrio, and >it looks like it will fit fine between the towers, but I'm a little worried >about interference with the throttle/cruise cables, which seem to be >routed right through where the bar would be (not an issue in my M3). >Has anyone installed one of these, and if so, how did you deal with >the cables? > >Thanks, >John > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:57:18 -0800 (PST) From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Some E30 Parts on eBay I have some parts on ebay: <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=bmw92510> Thanks for the BW Kyle Sanchez __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:20:13 -0800 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <e30>sparco strut bar install I installed the ~$100 steel bar in my '89 325is. I tried to bend the cruise control cable housing very carefully while it was still connected. Bad idea, as I didn't have as good a grip as I thought and ended up putting pressure on the 13 year old plastic that snaps into the metal support. The plastic broke instantly. I bought a new CC cable and pre-bent the metal housing before installation. I was very careful to make sure that the metal did not crimp anywhere. I also rotated cable 90 degrees downward and rerouted the cable. I now have about 1/8" of clearance. I have read claims that all this effort should not have been necessary, but it was the only way to make it work on my car. Kurt John Bunda wrote: >Speaking of the Sparco bar, I bought one for my E30 325i cabrio, and >it looks like it will fit fine between the towers, but I'm a little worried >about interference with the throttle/cruise cables, which seem to be >routed right through where the bar would be (not an issue in my M3). >Has anyone installed one of these, and if so, how did you deal with >the cables? > >Thanks, >John > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:21:15 +1000 From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs I have a 1989 E34 535i that many people say is the best handling limo they've had the pleasure of driving in. Its got Eibach Pro-Kit springs, Bilstein HD shocks, KMAC camber plates back and front, adjustable sway bars and a real trick 3 point strut tower brace. Even with stock 15" wheels and tyres there are very few cars that turn in and maintain corner speed as well as this old girl........ :-) Kim H - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs > I would use factory MTechnic springs, Koni shocks and M5 wheels. Also use > M5 thrust arm bushings or 750i ones for a little more cushion. A front > strut bar and factory camber compensating strut mounts are good upgrades. > 245/45R17 tires are popular for Mustangs and have good selection. If you > prefer 16 inch, a set of E38 16x8 wheels is a good fit also, use 225/55R16 > tires. > > Note: 225/55 and 245/45 tires are the same width. 45 and lower tires are > measured on wider rims so one must add 25mm (for this comparison) to 35mm > (for wider tires such as 245/50 to 275/40) to compare. > > Gary Derian > > > Gruppe: > > Now that the weather has broken (finally) in Boston, > > I'm thinking of a different suspension setup for my > > E34 (92 535i). What's the ticket (cost is a factor) > > for sporting street use in an area with LOTS of > > potholes and frost heaves? Also, I'd like to consider > > changing to 17" wheels, sticking with BMW OE if > > possible. These would be summer use only. Idees? > > Anybody have a good deal on parts? > > Jon > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:40:16 -0800 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: re: [uuc] <misc> mazda rev it up results > Falken is there with a bunch of their tires. The guy I talked to > actually knew about tires, which was nice. Their tire rep claimed their A032R lookalike (which I think the event cars were running) had been on the market outside the US before the A032R, but a treadwear rating of 200 seems a little too high for a really sticky tire. > course more for the visitors than the competitors. I also saw some > go-karts running amongst some straw bales. The karting was IMO about the best part of the whole event. Another $10 for 4 minutes, but the karts were fairly quick for a clutch-kart, the track was short but fun, and the airport concrete surface was WAY grippy. > Scoring is equalized based on the latest pro time into a 1000 point > system so that scores can be compared all across the country for all > 15 events. I scored a 521 which kept me on the leader board for the > club class until at least 2PM when I left. I ran something in the low-36s with the transmission in 'drive' (in that flavor it was always one gear higher than I wanted it to be) didn't bother waiting for the second run - they were well behind schedule and it just wasn't worth waiting in line for an hour. John. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:05:43 -0800 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Dear Mr. Derian, . coasting with the engine off is illegal in many states. The biggest secret is to jack up the rear suspension so the car always drives downhill and stop watching so much NASCAR. Gary Derian Ahh Hah. Knew there had to be a secret technique. Jacking up the rear end has resulted in much greater fuel economy per speedo indicated miles, probably due to the effect of gravity pulling it down hill, but also because of the reduced air resistance as the car sits in the garage doing 30mph. As a bonus it allows one to go in the house for a cup of coffee and to check the latest race-to-Baghdad results while running the rally. Thanks Mr. Answer Man! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 00:02:16 -0500 From: "Marshall Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re:<e30>sparco strut bar my car has gc camber plates, so adjustment isn't a big deal. with the race springs and the car on jackstands, there is no load whatsoever on the strut top. even with the adjusters, the least amount of camber i can get on the right side is 3 deg, so pushing the strut back out is a good thing. brett is likely right. this car probably should have had a bar earlier in its race life, or maybe it took a hit on the right side when it was a street car. brett, you know this car, it use to be geeze's rustoleum yellow special! (hey, i can hear you laughing!) i am letting the car hang for a while and may try ed's bumper jack idea. will check out the ireland shorty bar to see how much shorter it is. hoping to avoid the hassle of sending this bar back to evosport and ordering another one. marshall ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:37:05 -0500 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Cincy repair shops > I agree with Kathy Lyle (BTW, hi Kathy....bet you don't remember me from > Bavarian Motor days) that Just BMW in Fairfax is a good bet as is > the "new" > Bavarian Motors on Reading Rd. near downtown. Hi Charlie! I didn't know you were on this list. Of course I remember you, but it's your brother whose name I can't recall. Note to all: he can get you out of a traffic ticket if you get caught speeding through Cincinnati, while Charlie will prosecute you for your other crimes! Kathy - ---- Kathryn M. Lyle, CPA, CVA Lyle & Associates CPA www.lylecpa.com Creating Business Value ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:39:35 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs Kim, I haven't ridden or driven your car so I can't evaluate it, but in my experience, Bilstein sport struts bottom out all the time when used with a lowered E34. Your HDs, which are longer, must be worse. Bilstein bump stops can be fixed, but their damping is too weak for stiffer than stock springs. Nearly perfect for stock springs though. Gary Derian > I have a 1989 E34 535i that many people say is the best handling limo > they've had the pleasure of driving in. Its got Eibach Pro-Kit springs, > Bilstein HD shocks, KMAC camber plates back and front, adjustable sway bars > and a real trick 3 point strut tower brace. Even with stock 15" wheels and > tyres there are very few cars that turn in and maintain corner speed as well > as this old girl........ :-) > > Kim H > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:33 PM > Subject: Re: [uuc] E 34 suspension, wheels, tahrs > > > > I would use factory MTechnic springs, Koni shocks and M5 wheels. Also use > > M5 thrust arm bushings or 750i ones for a little more cushion. A front > > strut bar and factory camber compensating strut mounts are good upgrades. > > 245/45R17 tires are popular for Mustangs and have good selection. If you > > prefer 16 inch, a set of E38 16x8 wheels is a good fit also, use 225/55R16 > > tires. > > > > Note: 225/55 and 245/45 tires are the same width. 45 and lower tires are > > measured on wider rims so one must add 25mm (for this comparison) to 35mm > > (for wider tires such as 245/50 to 275/40) to compare. > > > > Gary Derian > > > > > Gruppe: > > > Now that the weather has broken (finally) in Boston, > > > I'm thinking of a different suspension setup for my > > > E34 (92 535i). What's the ticket (cost is a factor) > > > for sporting street use in an area with LOTS of > > > potholes and frost heaves? Also, I'd like to consider > > > changing to 17" wheels, sticking with BMW OE if > > > possible. These would be summer use only. Idees? > > > Anybody have a good deal on parts? > > > Jon > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6260 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
