[uucdigest]          Tuesday, April 1 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6268



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       RE: [uuc] <E36> Draining coolant
       Re: [uuc] <E36> Draining coolant
       Re: [uuc] RE: Totalled my 528e Saturday. . .
       Re:  [uuc] rear rotors for 328i?
       RE: [uuc] RE: Totalled my 528e Saturday. . .
       [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.
       [uuc] WANTED:  BMW Factory Instructions E30 A/C Installation
       RE: [uuc] RE: Totalled my 528e Saturday. . .
       [uuc] <OT> Collisions
       Re: [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.
       Re: [uuc] <OT> Collisions

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:13:50 -0800
From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] <E36> Draining coolant

Marc -

You can create a funnel from an old PVC bottle (milk, OJ, Clorox, etc.)
and wedge it between the frame and engine below the drain.  That will
control the flow of most of the coolant into a drain pan.  Much less
mess, but probably more net bother.

Do remember that coolant is both attractive to and poisonous to pets and
small children.

Brant

<<<<From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] <E36> Draining coolant

Are there any tricks to getting coolant drained from an E36 without
making a mess below?. . . .
Marc Plante
E36 325i, 212k
Vienna, VA>>>>>>

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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:16:00 -0600
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Draining coolant

I made an incredible mess doing this on the 540. Post hoc, I came up w/ 
a plan to leave the system sealed next time (cap, all hoses on), then 
have a rubber hose with about the right OD ready to jam into the threads 
when the plug comes out - then take the cap off. A rubber stopper with a 
big aperture in the middle and a hose attached would be slicker. Dunno - 
might help confine the mess a little. --SC

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Are there any tricks to getting coolant drained from an E36 without making a mess 
>below?  My current
>understanding is that it tracks along the engine block and really can't be 
>controlled, so you should
>plan on mopping up a fairly significant mess after you're done.  I figured I'd check 
>to see if
>anyone has come up with any alternatives.   @ 212k, I figure my car could use new 
>hoses, waterpump,
>etc.
>
>  
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:22:25 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Totalled my 528e Saturday. . .

Yes.  Conservation of energy is a pain in the butt as all energy must be
accounted for.  The energy dissipated as noise is ignored :-).

Momentum and energy are distinctly different.  You meant to say that no
energy was dissipated by the object hit.

In Brad's case, the energy absorbed my the Lincoln is important.  Also
momentum transferred to it causing it to slide sideways.

Gary Derian


> That must assume no momentum was transferred to the object that was hit
> (i.e. a brick wall). In this case it depends on the weight and
> orientation of the other car as well. At any given speed, that Town car
> will leave more of a mark on the 5er than a Geo Metro or a Vespa. --SC
>
> Neil Deshpande wrote:
>
> >Gary:
> >
> >Is it not true that car companies or someone else
> >publish crush vs speed tables for their cars?  So, if
> >you mashed the front end in 2 ft, you were doing such
> >and such speed.  I seem to recall a back-of-the-mag
> >article in one of the trade magazines.  Of course, it
> >is more complex that that, but that is a good start.
> >
> >Neil Deshpande
> >
> >
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:20:06 -0500
From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:  [uuc] rear rotors for 328i?

My 328ic had solid rears.  I doubt your caliper would accept the wider
vented rotor - you would need to replace those as well *I think*.  The dust
shield in the rear also mounts your e-brake.  Burning up rear brakes usually
isn't an issue, I would leave it unmodified on anything but a track car.

James

James Clay
http://www.bimmerworld.com
Engineered BMW Performance
540.639.9648

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:28:38 -0700
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Totalled my 528e Saturday. . .

Brad,

Why's the damage a total? I've seen worse that was repaired to just as good as
original.

- -Kevin

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:53:35 -0600
From: Robert Phelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.

Dec. 2002:  While I'm waiting to go out into traffic from a parking 
lot, some redneck turns left into the parking lot across my nose (no 
signal) and continues around until he hits my left-rear quarter.  He 
scrapes along it for a few feet and then stops.  Police are called, 
guy is at fault, etc etc etc.  The total is about 490$ which is under 
my deductible, so I have to go after the other insurance company 
myself.

Dec. 2002-March 2003:  Thanks to a less than informative police 
report, I have to call redneck to get the phone number of his 
insurance company.. the company is "National Ins" according to the 
report and no one, not even USAA has a clue who that is.  Fifteen or 
so calls, I finally pin redneck down and he tells me.  I report the 
incident to his insurance company thinking everything will be OK now. 
(Redneck never bothered to call insurance company)

April 2003:  After waiting a week for redneck's insurance company to 
call, I call them.  Got bounced around a lot and finally got the 
adjuster.  "Oh we called him, but we can't admit liability... he says 
you hit him!"

Luckily for me, the police report is clear and I filled out a sworn 
statement within an hour of the incident.  Faxed it to his insurance 
company, hopefully they'll drop him like a bad habit.

If I EVER find this guy on the street again, he's gonna need more 
than CAR insurance.


</rant>

Later,
Robert
- -- 

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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:16:57 +0000
From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WANTED:  BMW Factory Instructions E30 A/C Installation

To the lucky UUC subscribers in North America who won't have to do this.

My lucky find of last November, a 1990 325 touring with only 72.000 km and 
very clean condition (relax, I live in Switzerland) is slowly growing 
options it didn't have from first build (cruise, Motorsport dead pedal, UUC 
shifter, rear headrests, interior mirror with map lights, etc.).

I am about to embark on a long weekend project, out of the challenge and 
desire to keep a cool head, to add factory air conditioning.  Yes, many 
BMW's of this vintage did NOT come with A/C, not a major problem depending 
on where you live, but something appreciable to have.  To simplify the great 
memory test (many parts have come from other Swiss donor cars from a local 
yard), I am looking for a copy of the BMW factory installation instructions 
(EBA or Einbauanleitung in German).

Any language is fine, copies are OK vs. originals.

Can anyone help?  My understanding is that the ETK/EBA CD's may not cover 
the E30.

TIA,

Gregory in Geneva


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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:17:23 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Totalled my 528e Saturday. . .

KKiely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why's the damage a total? I've seen worse that was repaired to 
> just as good as original.

Because the value of a 15+ year old non-exotic is next to zero. The 
smallest of the accidents requiring paintwork is very likely to total any 
E28/E30. Ask me how I know.

mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As to your car and selling parts etc, you MIGHT not be able to 
> touch it if they declare your car a total loss.  It is then the
> property of the insurance company depending on where the car is,
> you might not even be able to touch anything except personal 
> items in the car.

Not true.
You still own the car up and until the moment You decide to accept the 
total loss settlement. An which point you exchange the car's title for the 
insurance company's check. 
In theory, the insurance company's settlement offer is based on the exact 
condition of the wreck. In practice the exact mix of aftermarket or 
variation of stock parts will have little if any effect on the offer.

alex f 

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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:32:16 -0600
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <OT> Collisions

Well,  relativistically they're not really distinct at all, but I 
suppose we know they weren't going fast enough for that to matter.

I was talking about kinematics to illustrate the point, because it just 
involves the masses of the objects (Geo vs. Town Car). Energy 
dissipation is messy and complicated, and I know nothing about how those 
cars crumple. To be precise I meant "no momentum was transferred and no 
energy was dissipated by the second object".  Only then is all of the 
kinetic energy of the car in motion dissipated in that car on impact, 
and only then do you get a calibrated crumple zone. Again to illustrate, 
if you're unlucky enough to hit a giant steel ball, to a good 
approximation "no energy will be dissipated in the object hit", but some 
energy will be carried away in the momentum transfer.  So, both 
requirements are necessary.

A far as speeds and skid marks go, this is a momentum problem since it's 
thoroughly inelastic. Why the focus on energy? You need detailed 
knowledge of the dissipation process for the accounting to work out.  --SC

Gary Derian wrote:

>Momentum and energy are distinctly different.  You meant to say that no
>energy was dissipated by the object hit.
>  
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:38:48 -0600
From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.

Hey Robert,
    I wish you the best in your quest for justice.  I had a somewhat similar
experience about a year ago except that a pointy headed liberal 'the
government owes me a living' type hit me. We're running short on rednecks in
these parts though we do have a useless "Mandatory Liability Insurance" law
in this state.  I never did collect from her because she lied to the police
that her policy (with a similar sounding ins. co.) was current and never
ponied up to mine or received a fine from the state.  Fortunately my
'uninsured motorist' coverage kept me mostly whole.
                Ben White/Ocean Springs, MS
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Phelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: [uuc] WOB, RANT: I'm gonna kill me a redneck.


> Dec. 2002:  While I'm waiting to go out into traffic from a parking
> lot, some redneck turns left into the parking lot across my nose (no
> signal) and continues around until he hits my left-rear quarter.  He
> scrapes along it for a few feet and then stops.  Police are called,
> guy is at fault, etc etc etc.  The total is about 490$ which is under
> my deductible, so I have to go after the other insurance company
> myself.
>
> Dec. 2002-March 2003:  Thanks to a less than informative police
> report, I have to call redneck to get the phone number of his
> insurance company.. the company is "National Ins" according to the
> report and no one, not even USAA has a clue who that is.  Fifteen or
> so calls, I finally pin redneck down and he tells me.  I report the
> incident to his insurance company thinking everything will be OK now.
> (Redneck never bothered to call insurance company)
>
> April 2003:  After waiting a week for redneck's insurance company to
> call, I call them.  Got bounced around a lot and finally got the
> adjuster.  "Oh we called him, but we can't admit liability... he says
> you hit him!"
>
> Luckily for me, the police report is clear and I filled out a sworn
> statement within an hour of the incident.  Faxed it to his insurance
> company, hopefully they'll drop him like a bad habit.
>
> If I EVER find this guy on the street again, he's gonna need more
> than CAR insurance.
>
>
> </rant>
>
> Later,
> Robert
> --

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:50:33 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <OT> Collisions

LMAO!  Here's what went through my head when I read Sean's post:

"So, I was rigidly fixed (infinite-point harness) in my giant steel 
ball the other day, and I was driving along, minding my own business.  
I had no way of knowing which way I was going, or how fast -- save for 
the juice swirling around in my ears.  Then suddenly, out of nowhere, 
I hit this other giant steel ball!  Or he hit me.  We think.  Neither 
of us is really sure, because there were no witnesses, and without 
friction, it took a really long time to get stopped and get out of our 
balls to check out the non-damage that resulted from the perfectly 
elastic collision.
Sheesh.  Wait 'til I try to explain this to the adjuster..."

- -N. Jay  <--amused

> Well,  relativistically they're not really distinct at all, but I 
> suppose we know they weren't going fast enough for that to matter.
> 
> I was talking about kinematics to illustrate the point, because it 
just 
> involves the masses of the objects (Geo vs. Town Car). Energy 
> dissipation is messy and complicated, and I know nothing about how 
those 
> cars crumple. To be precise I meant "no momentum was transferred and 
no 
> energy was dissipated by the second object".  Only then is all of 
the 
> kinetic energy of the car in motion dissipated in that car on 
impact, 
> and only then do you get a calibrated crumple zone. Again to 
illustrate, 
> if you're unlucky enough to hit a giant steel ball, to a good 
> approximation "no energy will be dissipated in the object hit", but 
some 
> energy will be carried away in the momentum transfer.  So, both 
> requirements are necessary.
> 
> A far as speeds and skid marks go, this is a momentum problem since 
it's 
> thoroughly inelastic. Why the focus on energy? You need detailed 
> knowledge of the dissipation process for the accounting to work 
out.  --SC
> 
> Gary Derian wrote:
> 
> >Momentum and energy are distinctly different.  You meant to say 
that no
> >energy was dissipated by the object hit.
> >  
> >
> 
> 

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